The Goat Pen

Any woman, male, farm animal that's been intimate with rat needs to be quarantined and burned per CDC protocol.

Males are out of the question.

Think its a coincidence that we let thousands of kids into this country from 3rd world countries last summer and we have a measles out break now?

vaccines and fluoridation = creeping socialism

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As much as you love to blame all the world's ills on pro religion American capitalists, you need to look at your wealthy leftist granoleys in California for this outbreak. You know the kind. The ones who petition on facebook against GMOs and take 95% of the candy out of their kids' Halloween bags...

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/01/opini ... inion&_r=0

It's definitely the paranoid Leftist hippies driving the non-vax movement.

hedge wrote:"but I wholeheartedly believe that the American Dream of "work hard and stay out of trouble and you will have success" is a myth."

Well, I guess it all depends on what you you consider "success" (and that applies to everyone). Somebody (perhaps like the malcontent who posted that rant) would think making $100K a year is chump change just b/c it doesn't put him in the class of old money brahmins. If that's your standard, then you're setting yourself up for disappointment. But many people would consider such an income to be hugely successful. Again, it's all relative and depends on who you are comparing yourself to. But the fact is, unless you're Bill Gates or Warren Buffet, there's always going to be somebody making way more jack than you, so you even a mega-multi-millionaire (or even somebody who is barely a billionaire) could sit there and lament their fortune compared to, say, Michael Bloomberg or whoever. But that person isn't going to find much sympathy, I suspect...

I'm not talking "success" as far as independently wealthy. I'm talking about "success" in the classic American sense..."house, car, picket fence and 2.2 children with a dog." Most people who work their whole lives will find themselves with significant debt and minimal savings upon retirement. They would not have travelled much. They will not have spent extravagantly. They will not have had a divorce. They will have underfunded their retirement to pay for braces, a new transmission or a medical bill. The data has shown that real wages have fallen over the last 30 years and the middle class has narrowed. The statement that "working hard and staying out of trouble will make you a success (in the most basic of ways)" is no more valid than flipping it on its head and stating that someone who has died beyond broke, penniless and (relatively) young is someone who did not work hard or stay out of trouble.

The myth of the American Dream is beautiful and genius, but it sure as shit ain't the truth.

We listed our 1st rehab today. $20K over what we had hoped for at the beginning. Stayed almost on budget though. We'll below the difference. My Facebook page has the pics. Let me know what you think.

sardis wrote:As much as you love to blame all the world's ills on pro religion American capitalists, you need to look at your wealthy leftist granoleys in California for this outbreak. You know the kind. The ones who petition on facebook against GMOs and take 95% of the candy out of their kids' Halloween bags...

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/01/opini ... inion&_r=0

Well, I am a pro religion American capitalist, and I did confiscate the good candy bars from the halloween bags ( whereas milk duds, tootsie rolls and that taffy crap - hey, knock yourself out kids).

So yeah, I have all this guilt to deal with, but at least my children are vaccinated. I disagree with those elected officials, mostly from the right, who call vaccine science into question. Which you'd admit is similar to other challenges laid down by rightwing pols over matters that are scientific fact.

You eschewed chewy milk duds??

hedge wrote:You eschewed chewy milk duds??

And Milky Way and 3 Musketeers, sure. If it doesn't have a crunch to it...it's no damn good, amiright?

A senator from NC argues that restaurant employees should not be required to wash their hands after using the bathroom.

No, not an Onion article....

http://www.eater.com/2015/2/3/7972541/s ... heir-hands

That's almost as dumb as letting Hedge have kids.

"Republican senator Thomas Tillis declared at the Bipartisan Policy Center Monday that businesses should be allowed to opt out of washing their hands "as long as customers are made aware of the situation" through "proper disclosure, through advertising...or whatever else." The senator argues that after word spread that employees do not wash their hands, the free market would take care of eliminating the business."

I actually agree with that...

No. If you have a public food service, maintaining a basic level of cleanliness is not optional. If it's a private household, do what you want.

So instead of a rule about washing hands a rule about disclosing it if you aren't washing hands. Brilliant.

I should be able to take my kids to disneyworld without the slightest concern for measles or any other disease controlled by vaccination. You can choose to not vaccinate your kid, but if your kid is ground zero or responsible for spreading the disease to otherwise healthy kids, then that is negligence and you should be brought up on criminal charges.

But then again, I should be able to take my kids there BECAUSE THEY ARE VACCINATED. The whole point of getting your kid vaccinnated is so they can point to the kids that weren't, are sick , and laugh at them without concern of themselves catching it.

Vaccines aren't 100%. Laugh at your own risk.

eCat wrote:Think its a coincidence that we let thousands of kids into this country from 3rd world countries last summer and we have a measles out break now?

I read that Mexico has a higher immunization rate than the US. I don't know about China and India...but we don't really complain about those immigrants.

AlabamAlum wrote:Vaccines aren't 100%. Laugh at your own risk.

we're all just part of the herd