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Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 8:46 am
by KeviNole
After the weekend's draft, Florida State became the first team in the modern draft era (1967) to have a player drafted at every position. But even more remarkable, Jimbo Fisher has that distinction in his relatively short 5 year tenure. So no college program has done in nearly 50 years what he has done in 5.
Just another testament to how remarkable he and his staff have been at identifying and developing talent across the board. Certainly recruiting has been one of his strongest abilities, but even more than that he has had several lower rated recruits developed into draftable players.
Also of note: the FSU-Louisville game last year featured 21 players that were drafted last weekend. That's ACC powah.
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 9:15 am
by AlabamAlum
I wonder which position Bama is missing? QB, RB, OT, OG, C, TE, WR, DT, DE, LB, CB, SS, FS. P, all accounted for....maybe kicker? We've had some kickers in the NFL, but I'm not sure they were drafted.
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 9:58 am
by aTm
It would surprise me if A&M had not had all positions accounted for...what are the positions? A&M is one of the few I know for sure that has had both a kicker and punter drafted as well.
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 10:05 am
by aTm
I also don't believe FSU has had a punter drafted so they must just be counting Dustin Hopkins fulfilling any kicker position obligations.
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 10:09 am
by AlabamAlum
Bama has had a couple of punters drafted. Maybe three since 1967. Our decent kickers that played some were all UDFAs, I believe.
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 10:14 am
by aTm
In the last 5 drafts (The same period as Jimbo's supposed amazing accomplishment), here is A&M's list which also covers almost every position anyway. I highly doubt that having all the positions is some incredible accomplishment but it is impressive how much depth and talent FSU has had under Fisher.
Quarterback- Manziel (2014), Tannehill (2012)
Running Back- Michael (2013), Gray (2012)
Wide Receiver- Evans (2014), Swope (2013)
Offensive Tackle- Ogbuehi (2015), Matthews (2014), Joeckel (2013)
Offensive Guard- Harrison (2015)
Defensive End- Moore (2013)
Linebacker- Porter (2013), Miller (2010)
Cornerback- Frederick (2012)
Kicker- Bullock (2012)
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 10:16 am
by aTm
A&M definitely has center, safety, punter, defensive tackle etc all covered, probably since about 1999 when punter Shane Lechler was drafted.
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 10:21 am
by aTm
A&M most recently covered TE, C, and DT in 2008 with Martellus Bennett, Cody Wallace, and Red Bryant. Safety in 2003 with Terrence Kiel, and Punter in 1999 with Lechler.
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 10:38 am
by AlabamAlum
Bama under Saban has every position covered except P/K.
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 10:52 am
by AlabamAlum
Code: Select all
Year Round Pick Player Name Team Position
2015 1 4 4 Amari Cooper Raiders WR
2 1 33 Landon Collins Giants DB
2 4 36 T.J. Yeldon Jaguars RB
4 9 108 Jalston Fowler Titans RB
4 13 112 Arie Kouandjio Redskins G
7 11 228 Austin Shepherd Vikings T
7 36 253 Xzavier Dickson Patriots LB
2014 1 17 17 C.J. Mosley Ravens LB
1 21 21 Ha Ha Clinton-Dix Packers DB
2 12 44 Cyrus Kouandjio Bills T
4 23 123 Kevin Norwood Seahawks WR
5 20 160 Ed Stinson Cardinals DE
5 24 164 AJ McCarron Bengals QB
5 27 167 Vinnie Sunseri Saints DB
6 1 177 Jeoffrey Pagan Texans DE
2013 1 9 9 Dee Milliner Jets DB
1 10 10 Chance Warmack Titans G
1 11 11 D.J. Fluker Chargers T
2 29 61 Eddie Lacy Packers RB
4 2 99 Nico Johnson Chiefs LB
4 16 113 Barrett Jones Rams G
5 4 137 Jesse Williams Seahawks DT
5 24 157 Quinton Dial 49ers DE
7 5 211 Michael Williams Lions TE
2012 1 3 3 Trent Richardson Browns RB
1 7 7 Mark Barron Buccaneers DB
1 17 17 Dre Kirkpatrick Bengals DB
1 25 25 Dont'a Hightower Patriots LB
2 3 35 Courtney Upshaw Ravens LB
5 1 136 Josh Chapman Colts DT
5 11 146 DeQuan Menzie Chiefs DB
7 40 247 Brad Smelley Browns TE
2011 1 3 3 Marcell Dareus Bills DT
1 6 6 Julio Jones Falcons WR
1 25 25 James Carpenter Seahawks T
1 28 28 Mark Ingram Saints RB
7 5 208 Greg McElroy Jets QB
2010 1 8 8 Rolando McClain Raiders LB
1 20 20 Kareem Jackson Texans DB
2 18 50 Javier Arenas Chiefs DB
2 25 57 Terrence Cody Ravens DT
3 34 98 Mike Johnson Falcons G
7 4 211 Marquis Johnson Rams DB
7 40 247 Brandon Deaderick Patriots LB
2009 1 6 6 Andre Smith Bengals T
3 10 74 Glen Coffee 49ers RB
3 13 77 Antoine Caldwell Texans C
3 31 95 Rashad Johnson
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 10:56 am
by KeviNole
Shit, sorry, I misread the stats...maybe I read it with a buzz over the weekend (or more likely I'm just a moron).
However, FSU had an offensive player drafted from every single offensive position (OT, G, C, WR, RB, TE, QB) for the first time ever (
source).
And Fisher has had every position, offensive and defensive, drafted now - but no K/P as TAM pointed out. Dustin Hopkins was picked up as an UDFA but not drafted, and punter has been a sore spot for a few years.
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 11:03 am
by aTm
Still a shit ton of drafted talent.
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 11:15 am
by AlabamAlum
.@FSU_Football is 1st team in Common Draft Era (since 1967) to have a player drafted at every offensive position (OT, G, C, WR, RB, TE, QB)
Bama:
OT: Shepherd
G: Kouandjio
C: Mott
WR: Amari
RB: Yeldon
TE: Williams
QB: McCarron
Just picked the last true position player drafted that I can remember. Side note: Austin Shepherd (drafted this year) played every position on the o-line at one time or another during his career, including center, and TE.
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 11:22 am
by AlabamAlum
Bama under Saban:
17 first rounders and 7 second rounders. We really should have more than three NCs with that talent under Saban.
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 11:28 am
by Jungle Rat
Look at ATM defending his teams honor. (Although they were only ranked #36 this year with players picked) I believe FSU had every position picked besides LB & S. I don't count Special Teams.
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 11:35 am
by AlabamAlum
Well, it is impressive. I listed the last players Bama had at each of those positions. Could not imagine having them all in one year.
Closest we came of having them all in one year was the 2011 or 2014 draft.
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 3:05 pm
by hedge
AlabamAlum wrote:Bama under Saban:
17 first rounders and 7 second rounders. We really should have more than three NCs with that talent under Saban.
Greedy....
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 3:07 pm
by AlabamAlum
Agreed.
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 3:24 pm
by hedge
Agreedy...
Re: Florida State Seminoles
Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 9:18 am
by KeviNole
Well we set the record for a three-year span with 29 players selected. It probably would have been 30 but one of our OL failed multiple NFL team physicals because of bad shoulders. Next year will be a whole different story though, as Jalen Ramsey might be the only draftee. Then 2017 will be another Nole-filled draft. As long as it's preceded by a run at the NC, it'll be worth it.