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Re: Florida State Seminoles

Post by KeviNole » Mon May 04, 2015 8:46 am

After the weekend's draft, Florida State became the first team in the modern draft era (1967) to have a player drafted at every position. But even more remarkable, Jimbo Fisher has that distinction in his relatively short 5 year tenure. So no college program has done in nearly 50 years what he has done in 5.

Just another testament to how remarkable he and his staff have been at identifying and developing talent across the board. Certainly recruiting has been one of his strongest abilities, but even more than that he has had several lower rated recruits developed into draftable players.

Also of note: the FSU-Louisville game last year featured 21 players that were drafted last weekend. That's ACC powah.

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Post by AlabamAlum » Mon May 04, 2015 9:15 am

I wonder which position Bama is missing? QB, RB, OT, OG, C, TE, WR, DT, DE, LB, CB, SS, FS. P, all accounted for....maybe kicker? We've had some kickers in the NFL, but I'm not sure they were drafted.
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Post by aTm » Mon May 04, 2015 9:58 am

It would surprise me if A&M had not had all positions accounted for...what are the positions? A&M is one of the few I know for sure that has had both a kicker and punter drafted as well.
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Post by aTm » Mon May 04, 2015 10:05 am

I also don't believe FSU has had a punter drafted so they must just be counting Dustin Hopkins fulfilling any kicker position obligations.
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Post by AlabamAlum » Mon May 04, 2015 10:09 am

Bama has had a couple of punters drafted. Maybe three since 1967. Our decent kickers that played some were all UDFAs, I believe.
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Post by aTm » Mon May 04, 2015 10:14 am

In the last 5 drafts (The same period as Jimbo's supposed amazing accomplishment), here is A&M's list which also covers almost every position anyway. I highly doubt that having all the positions is some incredible accomplishment but it is impressive how much depth and talent FSU has had under Fisher.

Quarterback- Manziel (2014), Tannehill (2012)

Running Back- Michael (2013), Gray (2012)

Wide Receiver- Evans (2014), Swope (2013)

Offensive Tackle- Ogbuehi (2015), Matthews (2014), Joeckel (2013)

Offensive Guard- Harrison (2015)

Defensive End- Moore (2013)

Linebacker- Porter (2013), Miller (2010)

Cornerback- Frederick (2012)

Kicker- Bullock (2012)
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Post by aTm » Mon May 04, 2015 10:16 am

A&M definitely has center, safety, punter, defensive tackle etc all covered, probably since about 1999 when punter Shane Lechler was drafted.
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Post by aTm » Mon May 04, 2015 10:21 am

A&M most recently covered TE, C, and DT in 2008 with Martellus Bennett, Cody Wallace, and Red Bryant. Safety in 2003 with Terrence Kiel, and Punter in 1999 with Lechler.
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Post by AlabamAlum » Mon May 04, 2015 10:38 am

Bama under Saban has every position covered except P/K.
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Code: Select all

Year	Round	Pick	Player	Name	Team	Position
2015	1	4	4	Amari Cooper	Raiders	WR
 	2	1	33	Landon Collins	Giants	DB
 	2	4	36	T.J. Yeldon	Jaguars	RB
 	4	9	108	Jalston Fowler	Titans	RB
 	4	13	112	Arie Kouandjio	Redskins	G
 	7	11	228	Austin Shepherd	Vikings	T
 	7	36	253	Xzavier Dickson	Patriots	LB
2014	1	17	17	C.J. Mosley	Ravens	LB
 	1	21	21	Ha Ha Clinton-Dix	Packers	DB
 	2	12	44	Cyrus Kouandjio	Bills	T
 	4	23	123	Kevin Norwood	Seahawks	WR
 	5	20	160	Ed Stinson	Cardinals	DE
 	5	24	164	AJ McCarron	Bengals	QB
 	5	27	167	Vinnie Sunseri	Saints	DB
 	6	1	177	Jeoffrey Pagan	Texans	DE
2013	1	9	9	Dee Milliner	Jets	DB
 	1	10	10	Chance Warmack	Titans	G
 	1	11	11	D.J. Fluker	Chargers	T
 	2	29	61	Eddie Lacy	Packers	RB
 	4	2	99	Nico Johnson	Chiefs	LB
 	4	16	113	Barrett Jones	Rams	G
 	5	4	137	Jesse Williams	Seahawks	DT
 	5	24	157	Quinton Dial	49ers	DE
 	7	5	211	Michael Williams	Lions	TE
2012	1	3	3	Trent Richardson	Browns	RB
 	1	7	7	Mark Barron	Buccaneers	DB
 	1	17	17	Dre Kirkpatrick	Bengals	DB
 	1	25	25	Dont'a Hightower	Patriots	LB
 	2	3	35	Courtney Upshaw	Ravens	LB
 	5	1	136	Josh Chapman	Colts	DT
 	5	11	146	DeQuan Menzie	Chiefs	DB
 	7	40	247	Brad Smelley	Browns	TE
2011	1	3	3	Marcell Dareus	Bills	DT
 	1	6	6	Julio Jones	Falcons	WR
 	1	25	25	James Carpenter	Seahawks	T
 	1	28	28	Mark Ingram	Saints	RB
 	7	5	208	Greg McElroy	Jets	QB
2010	1	8	8	Rolando McClain	Raiders	LB
 	1	20	20	Kareem Jackson	Texans	DB
 	2	18	50	Javier Arenas	Chiefs	DB
 	2	25	57	Terrence Cody	Ravens	DT
 	3	34	98	Mike Johnson	Falcons	G
 	7	4	211	Marquis Johnson	Rams	DB
 	7	40	247	Brandon Deaderick	Patriots	LB
2009	1	6	6	Andre Smith	Bengals	T
 	3	10	74	Glen Coffee	49ers	RB
 	3	13	77	Antoine Caldwell	Texans	C
 	3	31	95	Rashad Johnson
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Re: Florida State Seminoles

Post by KeviNole » Mon May 04, 2015 10:56 am

Shit, sorry, I misread the stats...maybe I read it with a buzz over the weekend (or more likely I'm just a moron).

However, FSU had an offensive player drafted from every single offensive position (OT, G, C, WR, RB, TE, QB) for the first time ever (source).

And Fisher has had every position, offensive and defensive, drafted now - but no K/P as TAM pointed out. Dustin Hopkins was picked up as an UDFA but not drafted, and punter has been a sore spot for a few years.

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Post by aTm » Mon May 04, 2015 11:03 am

Still a shit ton of drafted talent.
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Post by AlabamAlum » Mon May 04, 2015 11:15 am

.@FSU_Football is 1st team in Common Draft Era (since 1967) to have a player drafted at every offensive position (OT, G, C, WR, RB, TE, QB)
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OT: Shepherd
G: Kouandjio
C: Mott
WR: Amari
RB: Yeldon
TE: Williams
QB: McCarron

Just picked the last true position player drafted that I can remember. Side note: Austin Shepherd (drafted this year) played every position on the o-line at one time or another during his career, including center, and TE.
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Post by AlabamAlum » Mon May 04, 2015 11:22 am

Bama under Saban:

17 first rounders and 7 second rounders. We really should have more than three NCs with that talent under Saban.
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Post by Jungle Rat » Mon May 04, 2015 11:28 am

Look at ATM defending his teams honor. (Although they were only ranked #36 this year with players picked) I believe FSU had every position picked besides LB & S. I don't count Special Teams.

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Post by AlabamAlum » Mon May 04, 2015 11:35 am

Well, it is impressive. I listed the last players Bama had at each of those positions. Could not imagine having them all in one year.

Closest we came of having them all in one year was the 2011 or 2014 draft.
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Post by hedge » Mon May 04, 2015 3:05 pm

AlabamAlum wrote:Bama under Saban:

17 first rounders and 7 second rounders. We really should have more than three NCs with that talent under Saban.
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Post by AlabamAlum » Mon May 04, 2015 3:07 pm

Agreed.
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Post by hedge » Mon May 04, 2015 3:24 pm

Agreedy...
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Re: Florida State Seminoles

Post by KeviNole » Tue May 05, 2015 9:18 am

Well we set the record for a three-year span with 29 players selected. It probably would have been 30 but one of our OL failed multiple NFL team physicals because of bad shoulders. Next year will be a whole different story though, as Jalen Ramsey might be the only draftee. Then 2017 will be another Nole-filled draft. As long as it's preceded by a run at the NC, it'll be worth it.

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