The Goat Pen

AlabamAlum wrote:The NCAA has long been corrupt and a joke. The entire organization needs to be torn down and rebuilt from the ground up.

True statement.

hedge wrote:I think they are a wise and judicious organization...

Utter hogwash.

Nice going Auburn fans... you've let this devolve into an ACC discussion. PAAAAAAAAAAAAAATHETIC. .05 to Shiny, wherever you are...

I think you owe that to LA Tiger.

Yes, I still BR Tiger.

AugustWest wrote:Just like never knowing the pain of having a game stolen from you by shitty, biased officiating you'll never have to see your rival get away with unmitigated institutional cheating.

That post should be on the Tennessee thread.

Its full

aTm needs to fire up a few more servers. The Vol fans haven't BEGUN to blame the officiating for their football woes.

Trite.

Professor Tiger wrote:

AugustWest wrote:Just like never knowing the pain of having a game stolen from you by shitty, biased officiating you'll never have to see your rival get away with unmitigated institutional cheating.

That post should be on the Tennessee thread.

'Unmitigated institutional cheating'? Nah, this is the right thread..

Auburn hasn't cheated since 1993. That's been 20 years. Let ancient history go.

By contrast, Alabama has been on probation three times since then. Maybe a discussion of cheating should be on their thread.

No matter what you do, no matter what you say, no matter how many times you attempt to deflect to Tennessee or Alabama or whomever, people will always see your 2010 title as tainted and Auburn that year as egregious cheaters. A bought title, with Cam and the Tigers only getting off because of a loophole that had to be closed.

It may not be fair, but that's the way it is. Enjoy.

I just checked. The NCAA still says Auburn is the official 2010 BCS champion, kook conspiracy theories by some of our jealous competitors notwithstanding. So thank you, I will continue to enjoy it just like you do with your equally legitimate 2011 and 2012 titles.

I just checked again. Auburn is still cleared of any wrongdoing WRT Cam Newton.

people will always see your 2010 title as tainted and Auburn that year as egregious cheaters.

I don't give a shit what Bama fans or Georgia fans or Tennessee fans think about our 2010 Championship.

I don't have a dog in this fight, but I gotta agree with AA here. It's not that I "care" at all, just like I suspect most SEC fans don't really care about the academic scandal at UNC. But I'm sure I can speak for plenty of general college football fans who really don't have anything against Auburn in general or even specifically concerning Cam when I say the general perception is that Auburn's 2010 title is tainted. Does that mean anything "offically"? Of course not. Does it even mean anything to Auburn fans what the general college football fan (non SEC team fan) thinks? Probably not. Scratch that: Certainly not. But there you have it...

OK then with U*NC admitting to academic fraud back at least to 1997 how many of U*NC's basketball titles are "tainted"?

Academic fraud. The athletes were the victims. I feel bad for them. But, as I said to Prof, I doubt anyone else really cares. Except you...

Goddamn you're sick in the head. The academic fraud was to keep all those NBA first rounders eligible without having to go to class. Without that fraud you don't have all those pretty banners hanging from the rafters in the cheat dome.

Those athletes were cheated by a couple of rogue professors. What bothers me more is the far greater number of non-athletes who were also cheated by those couple of rogue professors who by their unilateral actions brought a small bit of shame to the university as a whole (not to the athletic program). But once the administration realized what was going on, they took quick action to correct the problem and strengthen the university, for which I applaud them. The athletes nor anyone in the athletic department have any blame (nor shame) in this, they did nothing wrong deliberately, they were duped and cheated. Therefor none of our athletic accomplishments were tainted...

took quick action? since 1997? what about the classes that had only athletes in them? why would crowder and nagario sign Marvin Austin up for a 400 level no show class before he even showed up on campus. what about Gov Martin's claim that the athletic department informed the academics about the no show classes, but that claim is now shown to be a lie. what about athletes representing 3% of the student body and 60% of the make up of the fraud classes?

Lets get this back on the topic of Auburn footbaw!

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I share your outrage at the 2 or 3 rogue professors who duped the students, student-athletes and fans of UNC, as well as the taxpayers of North Carolina. Good riddance to them. Thankfully we have emerged a stronger institution b/c of their actions. I share your excitement and admiration for that as well...