Ostensibly Hoops

[AlabamAlum]

If the baby needs punishing, you do it the way God intended: withhold food and crush their self esteem as they get older.

[Jungle Rat]

I wonder what IB thinks about this?


BAHAHAHAHAHADORKWADHAHAHA!!!!!!

[T Dot O Dot]

that's an awful lot of trouble to go through just to get a jog in

makes more sense to leave the kid home unattended then circle the neighbourhood

[eCat]

If the baby needs punishing, you do it the way God intended: withhold food and crush their self esteem as they get older.

we were already at the track, I woulda had his baby ass running laps

btw, went to the gun show in Lexington today - picked up a Stevens pump shotgun with pistol grip for my son and he got a .223 single shot with Nikon scope for his b'day. Kid has a pretty good starter set going, but only long guns. He'll have to buy his own hand guns as an adult.

[hedge]

I agree with Blue on principle that people should mind their own business in most cases, but I can also understand AA's attitude as someone who has witnessed some pretty horrible shit firsthand. I might very well call the po-po if I saw somebody who was driving extremely erratically (I can't recall ever seeing that, however, now that I think of it), but I doubt I would've thought twice about the baby in the situation eCat described. Just wouldn't have crossed my mind to get involved or to even see it as "a situation". I might've thought it a little odd, but nothing I would've called the police over or said anything to the guy about. That's just me...

[Owlman]

If the baby needs punishing, you do it the way God intended: withhold food and crush their self esteem as they get older.

Damn straight and take away their X-Box, phone and driving privileges as needed.

[Owlman]

that's an awful lot of trouble to go through just to get a jog in

makes more sense to leave the kid home unattended then circle the neighbourhood

Makes more sense to spend a small amount and run with the kid and a running stroller

[T Dot O Dot]

well yah, of course

[Jungle Rat]

Maybe you should have walked over to him like, "excuse me. Is that your car?" and see what he says. You do have a carry permit right?

[hedge]

Battier isn't pissed that he got called for a foul, he's pissed that Ginobli out-flopped anything he (Battier) has ever done...

[crashcourse]

a "do I get involved" or "mind my own damn business" moment

wife and I have started walking around 7am every morning. This morning the temperature was about 64 degrees ...very pleasant.

We walk the loop we always do which takes us by the high school and the track. In the shared parking lot is a car parked under trees. In the car is a baby asleep in its car seat with the windows up. The father, I assume, since he was the only guy out on the track is running about a 1/8 of a mile away but mostly out of sight of the car. My wife and I are debating on saying something to him - its only us, him and about 4 middle school age kids waiting to get into the training room over a space of about 3 acres. Our loop takes us to the end of the road and we head back talking about whether we should say something. Remember, the temperature is pretty nice and I"m sure the baby isn't in any danger of even getting uncomfortable temp wise.

So as we head back the guy is running off the track and we're like , OK good, he's going back to his car but he doesn't - instead he runs the opposite direction back away from the car and now is at one point about a 1/2 mile from the car. So now my wife is furious and is going to call the police. I tell her to wait and we alter our normal walk to stay in the general vicinity of the car. The guy runs his loop and heads back, gets in the car and leaves.

What would you have done?

http://www.kansas.com/2013/06/17/285156 ... -year.html


GRANTED --heat was involved in this case but still dangerous precedent leaving your kid inside a car unmonitored

[eCat]

interesting

I'm guessing running on the track in early morning is a regularly things for this guy - I'll know tomorrow as we walk that route again. Perhaps having the kid was a once occurrence.

[eCat]

This isn't anything I would have thought of before kids but on Fathers day, I heard or read several people remember their father and the overwhelming sentiment, especially from but not limited to men was about their father's work ethic.

And I was thinking that my son would probably say the same thing about me - not because I'm this hard working nose to the grind stone kind of guy but because every time my son has a dumbass mope moment, I'm always on him about it - clean your room, make good grades, do the job right the first time, get it done now, not later...etc and its not because that is such a priority to me, its that I"m scared if I don't instill this on him and stay on him about it that he's going to end up living in our basement working at the mall for the foreseeable future.

Do I want to be remembered as the "work ethic" father? Does any father?Well maybe, if your only other option is the "dad who got drunk and beat me". No, I want to be remembered as the guy that made the kids laugh at the dinner table, that took them on fun vacations, that showed them how to work on a car or to fish, taught them about life , etc - but no - that is the realm of the grandfather - who is retired and doesn't give a fuck what you grow up to be because he's gonna be dead in 5 year. I"m stuck being the harbinger of doom if you don't dedicate your life to working to a standard my father taught me about, but neither one of us ever killed ourselves to live up to.

I know one guy on facebook whose dad died last year and he wrote the glowing ode to the man, yet I distinctly remember him beating this kid in high school and at our little league games when we were 8 or 9 years old he'd always show up drunk, so drunk one time he pulled a Shooter and ran out onto the field screaming at the teenage ump and then went back to sleep it off in the back of his red pontiac still yelling something unintelligible as he was climbing in his car.

I guess once you die, people don't see the need to dwell on the bad shit anymore. Hell, even I said some nice shit about my old man on fathers - made my mom cry when she read and had to call me up and talk to me about it for 30 minutes. Last time I do that shit.

[Bklyn]

When the work ethic line is the only line, then Dad either worked so much all he had time for were these basics...or he didn't know how to parent.

[sardis]

Yeah, but you can't understate the importance of a dad's work ethic. It shows he is committed to them. A selfless act because if he didn't have kids, he's probably taking life easier. As a kid, you don't realize it until you yourself have kids.

[Cletus]

This isn't anything I would have thought of before kids but on Fathers day, I heard or read several people remember their father and the overwhelming sentiment, especially from but not limited to men was about their father's work ethic.

And I was thinking that my son would probably say the same thing about me - not because I'm this hard working nose to the grind stone kind of guy but because every time my son has a dumbass mope moment, I'm always on him about it - clean your room, make good grades, do the job right the first time, get it done now, not later...etc and its not because that is such a priority to me, its that I"m scared if I don't instill this on him and stay on him about it that he's going to end up living in our basement working at the mall for the foreseeable future.

Do I want to be remembered as the "work ethic" father? Does any father?Well maybe, if your only other option is the "dad who got drunk and beat me". No, I want to be remembered as the guy that made the kids laugh at the dinner table, that took them on fun vacations, that showed them how to work on a car or to fish, taught them about life , etc - but no - that is the realm of the grandfather - who is retired and doesn't give a fuck what you grow up to be because he's gonna be dead in 5 year. I"m stuck being the harbinger of doom if you don't dedicate your life to working to a standard my father taught me about, but neither one of us ever killed ourselves to live up to.

I know one guy on facebook whose dad died last year and he wrote the glowing ode to the man, yet I distinctly remember him beating this kid in high school and at our little league games when we were 8 or 9 years old he'd always show up drunk, so drunk one time he pulled a Shooter and ran out onto the field screaming at the teenage ump and then went back to sleep it off in the back of his red pontiac still yelling something unintelligible as he was climbing in his car.

I guess once you die, people don't see the need to dwell on the bad shit anymore. Hell, even I said some nice shit about my old man on fathers - made my mom cry when she read and had to call me up and talk to me about it for 30 minutes. Last time I do that shit.

You can be both. My dad worked his balls off while dealing with a severe handicap and yet was still able to find time to have a great relationship with me and my sisters. He was gone a lot for his job but when he was around he was very present and made doing stuff with me - both the big and small things - a top priority. I admire the hell out of him both because he was as successful as he was despite all his physical problems and because he was such a solid figure in our lives. It couldn't have been easy for him but he made it happen. I don't know if I could have done it.

[Bklyn]

Yeah, it definitely can be both...and should be. That's why I said if "the work ethic line is the only line" then Dad was going all out to keep the lights on and you in a good school, he had little time for spending time fishing with you, showing you how to change the oil on the car, helping you with your soap box derby car, etc. Those things happen and it doesn't make you a bad parent. However, sometimes a reminiscent moment can only pull working hard on your job as a pleasant memory...and that's because nothing else was pleasant (like drunken little league dude).

[eCat]

The piece of land I was looking at was sold before I could get to it, however I contacted the owner and he is willing to sell me a better piece of land for a bit more.

He liked that I wasn't going to live on it but only show up on the occasional weekend to ride bikes and shoot guns. I'm going to go look at it this weekend. He isn't showing the land to anyone else so I don't have to be in a hurry about it.

Guy might be scamming me, who knows but it sounds OK to me.

[eCat]

UK fans picking up where NcSt fans left off. This story was written because of input from UK fans pushing the reporter to ask the questions
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PJ Hairston, North Carolina’s leading scorer last year, was arrested nearly two weeks ago while driving around a shady part of Durham, and initially, it looked like just another college kid busted with a tiny amount of marijuana while hanging around some of his buddies.

Then, it escalated – a gun was found outside of the vehicle. Police still haven’t determinted who the gun belongs to. In fact, people have said almost nothing about Hairston’s case in the last week.

The latest PJ Hairston news was that he didn’t partake in the basketball game between current players and alumni at the Roy Williams basketball camp. No reason was given.

After thumbing through the police report (see below) a question lingers: the car Hairston was driving (oh, he didn’t have a license) was a rental. Hmmm. Who rented the car?

That, right now, remains a mystery.

So UNC’s best player – arguably – is tooling around in a 2013 silver GMC Yukon. An entry-level 2013 GMC Yukon sells for $45,000. The report doesn’t say where the vehicle was rented from. I called all the rental car agencies in Durham and a GMC Yukon with the plates and serial number matching the one Hairston was driving belonged to Hertz.

According to an employee at Hertz in Durham who did not wish to give their name, you only need to be 20-years old and have a license to rent a car from that agency. Hairston is 20.

The cost to rent a 2013 GMC Yukon at that Hertz? About $245 a day (taxes, fees, etc). Who is footing that bill?

The next step was much more difficult: Who rented the car? Hertz wouldn’t say. [The Hertz corporate office asked me if I had a subpoena, then told me that information was only available to law enforcement agencies.] I was able to get one helpful female employee on the phone who said she would confirm the name of the renter to me if I said it. I mentioned all the names of the people in the car, but she said none of them had rented it. The other name I tried was a longshot: Alex Kellner.

Who is Alex Kellner?

Well, he owns the place Hairston and (his mother, perhaps) are currently renting Oakridge, North Carolina. Like I said, it was a longshot. [Hairston's address was listed in the police report; county tax documents listed Kellner as the owner.]

The Hertz agent said no, he wasn’t the one who rented the car.

So we’re back to the original question: Star college basketball player driving around a high-end rented SUV with his buddies, drugs, and a weapon. The public information officer kept referring me to the police report and wouldn’t elaborate. Eventually, Carolina police will determine who the weapon belonged to. Will police reveal the renter of the vehicle?

Perhaps this is another Joe McKnight situation? Or perhaps it is nothing. Maybe Hairston has rich relatives, like Johnny Manziel. Either way, I’m sure the dogged NCAA will look into it and get to the bottom of things. Just like it did with the UNC Academic scandal.

[10ac]

To quote another famous ACCer, "It,s not like I shot the President or anything."