The Goat Pen

HOLDER MOVES ON GUNS... http://thehill.com/blogs/regwatch/pendi ... ntrol-push

Communist Party USA cheers...http://www.infowars.com/communists-chee ... -gun-grab/

Feinstein Gun Control Bill Would Exempt Government Officials...http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/fei ... 97732.html

Lacks Dem Votes to Pass Dem Senate...http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-2 ... enate.html

REPORT: Stricter gun laws fail to drive down gun-crime rates...http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... -gun-laws/

Meanwhile back at the ranch...

Oprama smacked down by fed court...


COURT TO OBAMA: ABUSE OF POWER...http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... ointments/

Ah...Chicago...

Chicago Driver Gives Himself The Boot To Guard Against Car Thieves...http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/01/24/ ... r-thieves/

Owlman wrote:

The second ammendment was not for hunting. It was to ensure that the citizens would have recourse over out of control gubment. To think otherwise is just silly.

Neither of those statements are correct. A well-regulated militia being necessarry to the maintenance of a free state, the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. They primarily (not the only reason) were concerned with the protection of the country from the superpowers of the day, France and England, something they rightfully should have been scared of. The purpose of the militia was not to protect the individual from the federal govt. The POTUS is the head of the militia.

Personal opinion...Bovine scatology...

Big Orange Junky wrote:The second ammendment was not for hunting. It was to ensure that the citizens would have recourse over out of control gubment. To think otherwise is just silly.

And no the single shot shotgun isn't going to help, that's why they want to remove the semi autos because in reality those WOULD help and help quite a bit.

Dictators and wannabe dictators fear an armed populace.

Unless you have AWACS, Spy Satellites and F/A-18's, you might as well use sticks and stones. You, Bubba and Billy-Bob can try your "2nd Amendment solutions" with AR-15s and AA-12 machine shotguns, and you'll last long enough to let the liftgate down on your pickup - but that's about it.

Most of you nutjobs are dilettantes who have neither the stomach nor the motivation to actually fight a revolution. You live your middle/upper-middleclass existences believing that Jews/Blacks/Latinos/Women have usurped your positions and/or polluted your gene pools/economy/system of values, without acknowledging that it was the unmitigated greed of your foreparents that brought Blacks/Latinos/etc. here as a source of cheap labor to and serve as a permanent underclass to inflate your quality of life. You have JACK SQUAT to whine about - the system was and remains stacked in your favor. If it's tilted so that your advantage is now 70-30 instead of 100-0, shut up. You have it great.

Meanwhile, Mustafa, Diego, Hamed, Myung, etc., are living in some shithole on $5/month in a shack with a corrugated tin roof and 15 of his closest relatives. He's going to work 12-hrs/day, 6 days/wk, digging up his country's natural resources to send them elsewhere, while 99.99995% of his countrymen have shortages of oil/gas/water/food/electricity/clothes/roads/schools and everything else so that the 0.00005% can live like Sultans.

THAT GUY (Mustafa/Diego/Hamed/Myung) can fight a revolution. He can go out in the bush, living off of bugs and ditchwater, because his life is crap. He can take an AK-47 or an AR-15 and go against an Abrams Tank because 1) he has absolutely NOTHING to lose, and 2) there are 80 million just like him who will step in when he dies and when the tank runs out of ammo, the remaining 40-50 million will prevail. (See: Vietnam War, Afghanistan, Serbia, Somalia, etc.).

You boobs will sit around in the clubhouse after a round of golf and talk about how Amurka has gone down the toilet since Obama/Clinton/Carter/LBJ/Truman/Roosevelt sold us out to the Reds. You'll spend $1,500.00 on a toy/fantasy/testosterone-supplementing firearm and imagine taking out hordes of gang-bangers/Muslims/UN Special Forces. Then you'll go, get in your gas-guzzling SUV/Pick-up, turn on Rush Limbaugh and head to your spacious, heated and air-conditioned home (with cable/DTV/DSL) where you can waych re-runs of "Father Knows Best" . . . or surf the internet for porn after your wife falls asleep.

Surprised no more talk about letting chicks in combat roles...does this mean all women in the military can now be forced into a combat role if needed or is it purely voluntary for females only? Do all 18 yrs and older females have to know register for selective service? How long before the physical standards diverge and chicks don't have to meet the same physical criteria?

JANUARY 25, 2013 4:00 A.M.

Sex and Violence

By The Editors

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/ ... ce-editors#

Walter Williams...

The Washington Times (10/2/98) carried a story, by Rowan Scarborough, about a Marine Corps internal memorandum dictating that by 2003 its officer corps shall be 12 percent black, 12 percent Hispanic and 5 percent other ethnic origins. In the wake of the memo's controversy, Marine Commandant, General Charles C. Krulak did the Clintonist double talk saying that "12-12-5" stemmed from guidelines he approved earlier but, "The fact of the matter is I confessed to signing something I was not really attuned to." General Krulak feigns offense at the idea marines would have standards lowering racial quotas. But that's the same military rope-a-dope about not lowering standards to accommodate women. Let's look at it.

The "USMA report on the Integration and Performance of Women at West Point", cited by Mackubin Thomas Owens, in Proceedings (July 1998) reveals sex-norming schemes whereby women receive A grades for the same performance that earns a man a D. Navy women pass physical readiness tests by performing 11% fewer sit-ups, 53% fewer push-ups, and running 1.5 miles 27% slower than men. The Marine Corps discovered that only 45% of female Marines could toss a hand grenade beyond its burst radius; one Army study reported only 12% could. Navy studies show that only 12% of women can accomplish the two-person stretcher carry, a requirement critical to ship security. Women may be able to drive a five-ton truck, but need a man's help if they must change a tire. Women can fire field artillery pieces but often can't handle the ammunition.

Senator Olympia Snowe (R.ME) says, "Every time a woman is excluded from a position [in the military], she is devalued." That's the kind of stupid thinking that ignores important physical and psychological sex differences and has compromised our military readiness. A partial listing of those differences include: the average female soldier is five inches shorter than her male counter-part, has half the upper body strength, has significantly lower aerobic capacity (at her physical peak, ages 20 to 30, the average woman has the aerobic capacity of a 50-year-old male), and 37% less muscle mass. Women have a much lighter skeleton that means, among other things, she can't pull G forces as well as men and is at greater risk of skeletal injuries.

Women soldiers are four times more likely to report ill. The percentage of women being medically non-available at any time is twice that of male soldiers. Then there's pregnancy. Each year, between 10 and 17 percent of servicewomen become pregnant. In certain posts the rate is higher. In 1988, James Webb, Secretary of the Navy, said 51% of single Air Force and 48% of single Navy women stationed in Iceland were pregnant. During troop deployment in Bosnia, between December 1995 and July 1996, a woman had to be evacuated due to pregnancy every three days. These and other factors mean that women suffer a higher rate of attrition than men and because of the turnover they are not as profitable training investments.

Perhaps the most dangerous aspect of military social engineering is official coverup of failure. Officers who criticize double standards or expose official lies and deception, risk their careers. If General Krulak's quota plan goes forward, you can bet there will be just as much lying and deception about race.

Blacks are 11% of Army officers, and 6% of the officers in the other branches. Hispanics are roughly 4% of the officers in each branch. Black and Hispanic officers should be at the forefront of the protest against Krulak's quota program, or have their achievements seen as handouts. More importantly Krulak should be fired.

Walter E. Williams

c41-98

October 1, 1998

“I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let's start with typewriters.”


Frank Lloyd Wright

Johnette's Daddy wrote:Most of you nutjobs are dilettantes who have neither the stomach nor the motivation to actually fight a revolution. You live your middle/upper-middleclass existences believing that Jews/Blacks/Latinos/Women have usurped your positions and/or polluted your gene pools/economy/system of values, without acknowledging that it was the unmitigated greed of your foreparents that brought Blacks/Latinos/etc. here as a source of cheap labor to and serve as a permanent underclass to inflate your quality of life.

It is comments like these, that help reinforce the my judgement that I am correct in not dignifying any of your posts with a response. This is why I shun you.

Let me give you a hint JD, you bring this misery on yourself by believing in this tripe. Your angst is self-induced. It will cause you serious physical ailments later in life if you continue to allow it to consume you. So let is go. You will feel a lot better and live much longer if you do.

puterbac wrote:Surprised no more talk about letting chicks in combat roles...does this mean all women in the military can now be forced into a combat role if needed or is it purely voluntary for females only? Do all 18 yrs and older females have to know register for selective service? How long before the physical standards diverge and chicks don't have to meet the same physical criteria?

JANUARY 25, 2013 4:00 A.M.

Sex and Violence

By The Editors

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/ ... ce-editors#

The moment captured US female soldiers start being raped/sodomized by "the enemy" and the media catches wind of it, that will pretty much end this policy and right quick.

innocentbystander wrote:

Johnette's Daddy wrote:Most of you nutjobs are dilettantes who have neither the stomach nor the motivation to actually fight a revolution. You live your middle/upper-middleclass existences believing that Jews/Blacks/Latinos/Women have usurped your positions and/or polluted your gene pools/economy/system of values, without acknowledging that it was the unmitigated greed of your foreparents that brought Blacks/Latinos/etc. here as a source of cheap labor to and serve as a permanent underclass to inflate your quality of life.

It is comments like these, that help reinforce the my judgement that I am correct in not dignifying any of your posts with a response. This is why I shun you.

Let me give you a hint JD, you bring this misery on yourself by believing in this tripe. Your angst is self-induced. It will cause you serious physical ailments later in life if you continue to allow it to consume you. So let is go. You will feel a lot better and live much longer if you do.

Again. You are a moron. Go away

Unless you have AWACS, Spy Satellites and F/A-18's, you might as well use sticks and stones.

Tell that to the Taliban/Al Qaeda fighters that have been fighting the worlds two top military powers for over 30 years and not only have not given up, but have expanded their scope and power 20 fold over the period.

30 years really? That would put me at 14. Don't remember the terriost issue back then. Festival seating. Maybe.

Taliban wasn't even a word back then.

Owlman is totally ignoring the writings of the federalists and anti-federalists when they hashed out this amendment.

sardis wrote:Owlman is totally ignoring the writings of the federalists and anti-federalists when they hashed out this amendment.

Correct.


“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”

TJ

That quote has been debunct, but these are fact.

And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press, or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. --- Samuel Adams,

The constitutions of most of our States assert, that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves, ... or they may act by representatives, freely and equally chosen; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of the press. - Thomas Jefferson

Those who are best acquainted with the late successful resistance of this country against the British arms will be most inclined to deny the possibility of it. Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of. Notwithstanding the military establishments of the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. - James madison

Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined. - Patrick Henry

To judge from the history of mankind, we shall be compelled to conclude, that the fiery and destructive passions of war reign in the human breast with much more powerful sway, than the mild and beneficent sentiments of peace ; and that to model our political system upon speculations of lasting tranquility, is to calculate on the weaker springs of the human character -- Alexander Hamilton

Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States -- Noah Webster

[A]rms like laws discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. The balance of power is the scale of peace. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not others dare not lay them aside. And while a single nation refuses to lay them down, it is proper that all should keep them up. Horrid mischief would ensue were one half the world deprived of the use of them; for while avarice and ambition have a place in the heart of man, the weak will become a prey to the strong. The history of every age and nation establishes these truths, and facts need but little arguments when they prove themselves -- Thomas Paine

Jungle Rat wrote:30 years really? That would put me at 14. Don't remember the terriost issue back then. Festival seating. Maybe.

Time for a history lesson on Islam. We've been having problems with Islamic Fundamentalism for quite some time, certainly more than 30 years. It's basically been as long as we were a nation. Here we have a situation where almost 5% of the United States treasury was given (as extortion Bred Wesley/Road House style) to Islamic Fundamentalists for them NOT to enslave our merchants, rape our women, and steal our goods we needed to sell in Europe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_pirates

In March 1785, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). Upon inquiring "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied:

Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman wrote:It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once.

We (who didn't follow the Prophet) had it coming, you see...


Thomas Jefferson finally just said "fuck it" and instead of buying them off, we created the United States Marine Corps to fuck them over...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War

Fast forward to today. This happened when you were 11.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis

This happened when you were 15.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beiru ... ks_bombing

In all of the above situations, the problem was the same as it has always been, Fundamental Islam.

Read the Koran. Frightening shit if one believes everything that is in it and acts on those beliefs (....fundamentally.)

Irony, thy name is PNN.

Walter Williams deplores the idea of women in combat. Walt is black.

The army is not a socialogical labratory; to be effective it must be organized and trained according to the principles which will ensure success...Experiments are a danger to efficiency, discipline, and moral and would result in ultimate defeat. - Col. E. Householder, 1941, explaining why negroes would not be integrated into combat roles.

bluetick wrote:Irony, thy name is PNN.

Walter Williams deplores the idea of women in combat. Walt is black.

The army is not a socialogical labratory; to be effective it must be organized and trained according to the principles which will ensure success...Experiments are a danger to efficiency, discipline, and moral and would result in ultimate defeat. - Col. E. Householder, 1941, explaining why negroes would not be integrated into combat roles.

Strawman

Women != Negroes