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I only struggle with the extreme ones. If you're sashaying around in a pink tank top with a knot in it and a pair of purple hot pants like Mango from SNL, then it gets tough for me. I also struggle with trans people. Otherwise, I don't really give a shit.

its not that I have any hatred or issues in general with gay people,

but I don't consider it normal and I'm not comfortable with it being promoted as such.

As far as rights and all that - I don't care - you do what you do, and if you want to have your life partner in the room with you when you die, you shouldn't need a piece of paper saying you are married or a relative to do so

but I don't think gay people should be married. Marriage has been recognized by cultures all over the world for thousands of years as a bond between a man and a woman.

Of course that video doesn't have anything to do with gay marriage but I just don't want dudes alluding that they are going to hotels for sex, that same hotels with bedspreads that I sleep on.

It doesn't bother me either.

eCat wrote:its not that I have any hatred or issues in general with gay people,

but I don't consider it normal and I'm not comfortable with it being promoted as such.

As far as rights and all that - I don't care - you do what you do, and if you want to have your life partner in the room with you when you die, you shouldn't need a piece of paper saying you are married or a relative to do so

but I don't think gay people should be married. Marriage has been recognized by cultures all over the world for thousands of years as a bond between a man and a woman.

Of course that video doesn't have anything to do with gay marriage but I just don't want dudes alluding that they are going to hotels for sex, that same hotels with bedspreads that I sleep on.

"Normal" is kind of relative and subjective. They used to kill southpaws.

Once marriage was taken out of solely being a church issue and became a state issue that governed property and medical rights, then gay people have a right for equal protection under the law. Keep them from getting married in the church (which is where the cultures all over the world for thousands of years kept it), but if the state recognizes it and that state has a constitution that protects the rights of all citizens equally, then gay people deserve that right.

I always hated Red Shirt day at Kings Island when i was a kid because it was never announced. And it was gross. Men making out waiting in line for a ride with their hands down each others pants. It was blatant and so wrong. I got punched once for calling a couple a bunch of faggots. I was 14. Totally disgusting.

Jungle Rat wrote:I always hated Red Shirt day at Kings Island when i was a kid because it was never announced. And it was gross. Men making out waiting in line for a ride with their hands down each others pants. It was blatant and so wrong. I got punched once for calling a couple a bunch of faggots. I was 14. Totally disgusting.

What a coincidence that of all the days of the summer, you kept showing up on red shirt day. What are the odds?

lol

all right cletus Im getting new clubs

I have a fast swing as I posted earlier--still get driver out 250 plus consistentently at age 53 --like my adams idea 4s but had them 5 plus years--I think I needs steel stiff shafts and maybe one utility 3iron or 4 iron--what irons would you look aat for less then 800?Im thinking mizuno mp 60's I think they are my last harrah before i go graphite reg flex with 3 utilities

I don't really know much about the current generation of irons. I still have the same set of Mizuno blades that I got 20 years ago in college. And, I don't think ti really matters that much. The key is getting the right shafts. I've changed those 2-3 times over the years as my swing has changed. You really need to go to a fitter and have them figure out your swing speed, ball speed, spin rate, etc. to get that right. If you don't want to get fitted, there are probably some charts made by the shaft makers that can give you an idea of what you should use given a few variables. But, if you are going to spend some cash and you are interested in getting better, a good fitting is well worthwhile.

Agree. Get custom shafts.

Cletus wrote:

Jungle Rat wrote:I always hated Red Shirt day at Kings Island when i was a kid because it was never announced. And it was gross. Men making out waiting in line for a ride with their hands down each others pants. It was blatant and so wrong. I got punched once for calling a couple a bunch of faggots. I was 14. Totally disgusting.

What a coincidence that of all the days of the summer, you kept showing up on red shirt day. What are the odds?

I had a season pass you asshat. Why does it not suprise me you are on the faggots side?

shafts it is

Check this out - http://www.shaftfit.com/

That may get you to the right shafts without needing a full fitting session. Fittings are great but maybe overkill depending on your skill level and/or goals. But, off the rack shafts are almost certainly not right for you. So, making adjustments there will get you your best results.

Jungle Rat wrote:

Cletus wrote:

Jungle Rat wrote:I always hated Red Shirt day at Kings Island when i was a kid because it was never announced. And it was gross. Men making out waiting in line for a ride with their hands down each others pants. It was blatant and so wrong. I got punched once for calling a couple a bunch of faggots. I was 14. Totally disgusting.

What a coincidence that of all the days of the summer, you kept showing up on red shirt day. What are the odds?

I had a season pass you asshat. Why does it not suprise me you are on the faggots side?

I am on the "faggots" side because it is the correct and decent thing to do. You may want to consider giving correct and decent a shot some time.

No way. I don't care if the faggots have gay marriage, just keep the sex stuff away from us normal people.

What if one of your kids is gay?

but I don't think gay people should be married. Marriage has been recognized by cultures all over the world for thousands of years as a bond between a man and a woman.

or a man and women in some places, or men and a woman in a few places.

And then there were the Spartans

Owlman wrote:

but I don't think gay people should be married. Marriage has been recognized by cultures all over the world for thousands of years as a bond between a man and a woman.

or a man and women in some places, or men and a woman in a few places.

And then there were the Spartans

so you're saying that man and woman marriage is not the norm for humans beings on this planet since communal living began?

Sure it is. Also, I'm sure it was the norm that people of the same ethnic background married. The way things were done in the past and norms aren't something we need to be dogmatic to.

AlabamAlum wrote:Sure it is. Also, I'm sure it was the norm that people of the same ethnic background married. The way things were done in the past and norms aren't something we need to be dogmatic to.

nor should we jump on the bandwagon to an idea that is new due to a politically correct moment in time

Political correctness? This is just fairness, limited government reach, and fairness.

And the idea isn't new.