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Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:42 am
by Owlman
hedge wrote:
They don't need to go to Harvard for that, they could just come to the Goat Pen for free...
True, but we really want them to open chapters across the country. After all, more fodder for the Back Room if they do this right.
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:10 am
by Big Orange Junky
One thing wrong with that tough is the bias.
If you bought a Volt you are a 1000% koolaide drinker in all likelyhood (a few maybe not but most yes). The dang thing could have caught their garage on fire and burned their house down and they would still say they would buy another one.
On a smaller scale would be people that drive trucks like myself. I might switch to a different brand of truck, but the satisfaction of people like me with their trucks if surveyed is gonna be in the 90% range, especially if the comparison was with some tin can car (not as much variety with the Volt, Leaf, Prius not like there are with the different number of truck models).
So they already love, love, love electric vehicles, and they have 3 choices (figure of speach, not literally 3). They are gonna stick with the one they have.
Add in the high cost of fuel (which is controlled by the president when a Republican is in office and the president has nothing to do with when a Democrat is in office) and that bolsters it as well.
But looking at the number sold you are surveying the hard core electric car few and as expected getting a positive answer.
I bet Tessla has a high satisfaction rating too, bet it is even higher than the Volt....................
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:19 am
by sardis
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:35 pm
by Owlman
I might switch to a different brand of truck, but the satisfaction of people like me with their trucks if surveyed is gonna be in the 90% range, especially if the comparison was with some tin can car (not as much variety with the Volt, Leaf, Prius not like there are with the different number of truck models).
I was going to say evidently not since the survey was of owners of 240 models of cars and trucks and the number had to be lower than 77%, the Audi which was 5th.. But then I realized that I don't know what you mean by people like you (something separate from all other owners of your model of truck). The specific question that was asked was,
“Would you get the same vehicle if you had to do it all over again?” They didn't ask to compare one car/truck to other trucks.
It was also limited to Consumer Report subscribers, which may also effect the results. Maybe nobody Consumer Reports subscriber that owned your truck responded to the survey.
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:54 pm
by 10ac
Real men drive pickups and talk with a deep voice.
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:25 pm
by Owlman
Like Harvey Fierstein
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Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:53 pm
by Big Orange Junky
Maybe I wasn't clear. It is sampling/selection bias.
The people that own electric cars have drank the koolaide they are self selected to be happy with them even if they burn their house down due to faulty wiring. The only thing they want is an electric car, it's cool, they are hip and gosh darn it they are helping the enviornment. They don't have many choices compared to other people. So they are going to pick an electric car, and there isn't that many to split the vote so to speak.
People like me (truck owners) don't usually go to a car, but there are many different truck makes and models, full size, mid size, small and in all different brands so with more choice that waters the responses down. Maybe they would get a midsized truck instead of a full sized
The electric car folks don't have much place else to go so they are more likely to say they would buy that car again, add that to the koolaide effect that many of them are drinking and as expected you would have a very high number.
For them to say they would switch would be akin to having people that like trucks saying they are going to switch to a car.
I then threw in the Tessla because that adds another effect, that of spending a wad of cash on something makes it less likely for them to admit they maybe should have got something different (that and it's a badass car).
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:07 pm
by Johnette's Daddy
Resistance is futile.
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Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:42 pm
by hedge
Hilary is definitely going to win in 2016. She only needs one campaign slogan: "It's Time"...
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:39 pm
by Jungle Rat
That would be great. IBs head would explode.
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:53 pm
by innocentbystander
Jungle Rat wrote:That would be great. IBs head would explode.
Before we start channelling the image of that guy in the movie Scanners, remember that there was a reason why she didn't get the nomination in the first place.
Why was it NOT time in 2008?
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:18 pm
by hedge
Because that was blackie's time. 2016 will be gash's time. But don't feel bad, the entire previous 200+ years was old white man's time, so you shouldn't be too bitter...
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:57 pm
by Johnette's Daddy
hedge wrote:Because that was blackie's time. 2016 will be gash's time. But don't feel bad, the entire previous 200+ years was old white man's time, so you shouldn't be too bitter...
WASP Amurca better be happy - after Hillary, there'll be a long succession of President Roberto Garzas, President Carmelita Barrigans and President Eduardo Molinas.
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:47 pm
by Professor Tiger
... and Marco Rubio.
No, scratch that. The IB's and Establishmentarians will nominate a mushy moderate to woo independents. That'll work, for sure.
If Hillary runs in '16, she needs some serious botox and liposuction.
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:39 pm
by Johnette's Daddy
Professor Tiger wrote:... and Marco Rubio.
No, scratch that. The IB's and Establishmentarians will nominate a mushy moderate to woo independents. That'll work, for sure.
If Hillary runs in '16, she needs some serious botox and liposuction.
You don't get it.
The whole premise of "Our Time" is that it will not merely celebrate womanhood, but radically feminist womanhood that celebrates the fact that a woman has value beyond her looks and that older women need to be celebrated for their grace and experience, not put out to pasture.
Of course, that sucks from an eye candy point of view, but that will be the theme.
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:43 pm
by 10ac
Million already coined it. "Pig ankled harridan.
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:49 pm
by Johnette's Daddy
10ac wrote:Million already coined it. "Pig ankled harridan.
That's "President Pig Ankled Harridan."
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:02 pm
by Professor Tiger
Talent coined PAH.
Maybe the R's will counter the PAH with Palin.
Meow.
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:37 pm
by 10ac
You're wrong, newbie.
Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:33 am
by bluetick
million originated PAH. We all used it; talent more than most.