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Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:38 pm
by THE_WIZARD_
Rubble rubble?

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:18 pm
by 10ac
Nice job, IB.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:41 pm
by innocentbystander
10ac wrote:Nice job, IB.
Thank you. But it had to be said. Clearly, the man is either entirely ignorant of the real estate and mortgage industries or he just hates capitalism. Or both. Hopefully, he's just an uneducated fool and not a con-man that finally got blessed out by someone who saw through his crap.

I pity his Congregation. I really do. Why do I get the impression this irresponsible tripe we are hearing from Johhnette's Daddy is the same crap that our President may have heard from Rev Wright in his church for over 20 years? He is supposed to be a Christian and the people in his church are expecting him to act in a manner that is Biblical. Part of that is speaking truth to power. There was nothing truthful about his post, nothing. And there is nothing Christian about welching on debt. Infact, I don't think Christ would want anyone to take on ANY debt. Truly being Chrisitan would mean saving (for years if needs be) to pay CASH for your house. (That is what the Duggars do, that is how they can afford having such a huge family, no debt.)

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:27 pm
by Cletus
He's a pastor therefore he's a fool (can't comment on his education) and a con-man.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:45 pm
by innocentbystander
Cletus wrote:He's a pastor therefore he's a fool (can't comment on his education) and a con-man.
Pastor Gungor is no fool.

http://www.laughyourway.com/about/mark-gungor/

This guy saved two marriages (that I know of) just at our church.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:59 pm
by Jungle Rat
How many boys did he rape?

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:04 pm
by Cletus
innocentbystander wrote:
Cletus wrote:He's a pastor therefore he's a fool (can't comment on his education) and a con-man.
Pastor Gungor is no fool.

http://www.laughyourway.com/about/mark-gungor/

This guy saved two marriages (that I know of) just at our church.
I will amend my statement. Any pastor who actually believes the stuff he preaches is a fool. That much is obvious. Since I think JD believes the BS he spews, he's a fool.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:07 pm
by Johnette's Daddy
innocentbystander wrote:
10ac wrote:Nice job, IB.
Thank you. But it had to be said. Clearly, the man is either entirely ignorant of the real estate and mortgage industries or he just hates capitalism. Or both. Hopefully, he's just an uneducated fool and not a con-man that finally got blessed out by someone who saw through his crap.

I pity his Congregation. I really do. Why do I get the impression this irresponsible tripe we are hearing from Johhnette's Daddy is the same crap that our President may have heard from Rev Wright in his church for over 20 years? He is supposed to be a Christian and the people in his church are expecting him to act in a manner that is Biblical. Part of that is speaking truth to power. There was nothing truthful about his post, nothing. And there is nothing Christian about welching on debt. Infact, I don't think Christ would want anyone to take on ANY debt. Truly being Chrisitan would mean saving (for years if needs be) to pay CASH for your house. (That is what the Duggars do, that is how they can afford having such a huge family, no debt.)
All your other garbage aside . . . is it Christian for YOU to work for moneylenders?

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:07 pm
by Johnette's Daddy
Cletus wrote:
innocentbystander wrote:
Cletus wrote:He's a pastor therefore he's a fool (can't comment on his education) and a con-man.
Pastor Gungor is no fool.

http://www.laughyourway.com/about/mark-gungor/

This guy saved two marriages (that I know of) just at our church.
I will amend my statement. Any pastor who actually believes the stuff he preaches is a fool. That much is obvious. Since I think JD believes the BS he spews, he's a fool.
Better a fool than a slack-jawed yokel!

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:14 pm
by innocentbystander
Johnette's Daddy wrote:
innocentbystander wrote:
10ac wrote:Nice job, IB.
Thank you. But it had to be said. Clearly, the man is either entirely ignorant of the real estate and mortgage industries or he just hates capitalism. Or both. Hopefully, he's just an uneducated fool and not a con-man that finally got blessed out by someone who saw through his crap.

I pity his Congregation. I really do. Why do I get the impression this irresponsible tripe we are hearing from Johhnette's Daddy is the same crap that our President may have heard from Rev Wright in his church for over 20 years? He is supposed to be a Christian and the people in his church are expecting him to act in a manner that is Biblical. Part of that is speaking truth to power. There was nothing truthful about his post, nothing. And there is nothing Christian about welching on debt. Infact, I don't think Christ would want anyone to take on ANY debt. Truly being Chrisitan would mean saving (for years if needs be) to pay CASH for your house. (That is what the Duggars do, that is how they can afford having such a huge family, no debt.)
All your other garbage aside . . . is it Christian for YOU to work for moneylenders?
I don't work for money lenders. I do work for a company that does a lot of business in the real-estate industry.

"Pastor", I think you need to take a break from your screed. You are WAY OUT OF YOUR DEPTH here. I am calling you out as either a fool or a con man. That is all that you are, one or the other. No one here believes anything of what you are saying. I have utterly dismantled your ENTIRE platform. And you know it. And everyone here knows it. So stop your preaching here, we do not want to listen to it.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:47 pm
by Jungle Rat
Pot meet Kettle.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:00 pm
by Johnette's Daddy
innocentbystander wrote:I don't work for money lenders. I do work for a company that does a lot of business in the real-estate industry.

"Pastor", I think you need to take a break from your screed. You are WAY OUT OF YOUR DEPTH here. I am calling you out as either a fool or a con man. That is all that you are, one or the other. No one here believes anything of what you are saying. I have utterly dismantled your ENTIRE platform. And you know it. And everyone here knows it. So stop your preaching here, we do not want to listen to it.
It is Saturday night and I like to conserve my energy for Sunday morning, so my reply is limited to this: you are insane.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:57 pm
by Owlman
So Rat, did you really develop Affordable Housing?

LITHC?

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:10 pm
by Jungle Rat
Yep. why?

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:45 pm
by Owlman
My college roommate has been developing LITHC properties for 25 years. I started working him some 12, 13 years ago. Both 9% and 4% with bonds, as well new market combined with historical tax credits.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:48 pm
by Owlman
I suspect that it gives you a little more knowledge about the housing market than IB's alleged connection

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:04 pm
by Jungle Rat
We built all over the country from 94-03. Once named 7th largest Multi Family in the nation. Yeah, signing over $320 million in checks to contractors every year might give me some insight as to why I think IB is a fraud.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:05 pm
by Jungle Rat
Hi Wizzie!

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:08 pm
by Jungle Rat
Tax credit properties are an easy money maker as long as you keep the rent numbers.

Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:08 pm
by innocentbystander
Johnette's Daddy wrote:
innocentbystander wrote:I don't work for money lenders. I do work for a company that does a lot of business in the real-estate industry.

"Pastor", I think you need to take a break from your screed. You are WAY OUT OF YOUR DEPTH here. I am calling you out as either a fool or a con man. That is all that you are, one or the other. No one here believes anything of what you are saying. I have utterly dismantled your ENTIRE platform. And you know it. And everyone here knows it. So stop your preaching here, we do not want to listen to it.
It is Saturday night and I like to conserve my energy for Sunday morning, so my reply is limited to this: you are insane.
I don't believe anything you say. As far as I'm concerned, you are a child.