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bluetick wrote:Don't Pity the Rich; The Great Recession Was Worse on the Poor
by Matthew O'Brien the Atlantic, 10/16/2012
You are such a goddam shill for your corporate betters.puterbac wrote:They have this cash because they don't know wtf their costs are going to be for current and future employees. They have to do what govt will not: Live within their means and plan for the future.
Fuck that shit. That "they'll just move their money overseas" dog just doesn't hunt anymore. The ones who are inclined to move their money will do so even if times are great. A recent presidential contender comes to mind...Professor Tiger wrote:FTR, I am not really opposed to going back to the Clinton tax rates for the wealthy. After all, the country boomed under those rates. But it makes more sense to do so after the economy rebounds. Raising taxes on anybody in the middle of a recession is not a good idea. Plus, with the global economy, if you significantly raise taxes on the wealthy now, they'll just move their money overseas, and revenues will plummet instead of increase.
Higher production + Fewer Employees = Record profits in every single industrialize, information age driven country, in the world.bluetick wrote:You are such a goddam shill for your corporate betters.puterbac wrote:They have this cash because they don't know wtf their costs are going to be for current and future employees. They have to do what govt will not: Live within their means and plan for the future.
The [Great Recession] recovery of real output to an historically high level that is 2.2% above pre-recession levels with 2.6% fewer employees has also translated into record-level after-tax corporate profits, which are now 30% above pre-recession levels.
Higher production + Fewer Employees = Record profits. You understand this, don't you Smithers? You may not like it, and you will ignore it...but you get it.
What do you want government to "do" to business to force them to hire US citizens?bluetick wrote:Fuck that shit. That "they'll just move their money overseas" dog just doesn't hunt anymore. The ones who are inclined to move their money will do so even if times are great. A recent presidential contender comes to mind...Professor Tiger wrote:FTR, I am not really opposed to going back to the Clinton tax rates for the wealthy. After all, the country boomed under those rates. But it makes more sense to do so after the economy rebounds. Raising taxes on anybody in the middle of a recession is not a good idea. Plus, with the global economy, if you significantly raise taxes on the wealthy now, they'll just move their money overseas, and revenues will plummet instead of increase.
We've lived under the sword of what the Job Creators will do if they don't get their way long enough. Let's kick this pig and get it on.
I guess I'm confused on what you are bitching about. Are you complaining because a company is well run and makes money? Seriously wtf are you complaining about? Do you think companies shouldn't try to be as efficient as possible and waste money? Do you disagree and say companies do NOT pass on expenses (taxes) to customers?bluetick wrote:You are such a goddam shill for your corporate betters.puterbac wrote:They have this cash because they don't know wtf their costs are going to be for current and future employees. They have to do what govt will not: Live within their means and plan for the future.
The [Great Recession] recovery of real output to an historically high level that is 2.2% above pre-recession levels with 2.6% fewer employees has also translated into record-level after-tax corporate profits, which are now 30% above pre-recession levels.
Higher production + Fewer Employees = Record profits. You understand this, don't you Smithers? You may not like it, and you will ignore it...but you get it.
The better question is what can US citizens (aka consumers) do to force them to hire US citizens.innocentbystander wrote:What do you want government to "do" to business to force them to hire US citizens?bluetick wrote:Fuck that shit. That "they'll just move their money overseas" dog just doesn't hunt anymore. The ones who are inclined to move their money will do so even if times are great. A recent presidential contender comes to mind...Professor Tiger wrote:FTR, I am not really opposed to going back to the Clinton tax rates for the wealthy. After all, the country boomed under those rates. But it makes more sense to do so after the economy rebounds. Raising taxes on anybody in the middle of a recession is not a good idea. Plus, with the global economy, if you significantly raise taxes on the wealthy now, they'll just move their money overseas, and revenues will plummet instead of increase.
We've lived under the sword of what the Job Creators will do if they don't get their way long enough. Let's kick this pig and get it on.
He said "lets kick the pig" (his words) whatever the fuck that Occupy Wall Street expression means. It doesn't mean much here at The Goat Pen that's for damn sure. But at least it allows Blue Tick to keep his pride and not say anything meaningful because he doesn't have any real idea what to do other than government going into bank accounts of these corporations and siezing the money.puterbac wrote:I guess I'm confused on what you are bitching about. Are you complaining because a company is well run and makes money? Seriously wtf are you complaining about? Do you think companies shouldn't try to be as efficient as possible and waste money? Do you disagree and say companies do NOT pass on expenses (taxes) to customers?bluetick wrote:You are such a goddam shill for your corporate betters.
The [Great Recession] recovery of real output to an historically high level that is 2.2% above pre-recession levels with 2.6% fewer employees has also translated into record-level after-tax corporate profits, which are now 30% above pre-recession levels.
Higher production + Fewer Employees = Record profits. You understand this, don't you Smithers? You may not like it, and you will ignore it...but you get it.
Yeah I understand it. Efficient companies need fewer employees to do the same amount of work and have higher profits.
What you don't seem to understand is that companies with thousands of employees are sitting on cash instead of investing it or expanding because they do not know what their taxes are going to be and what the cost of Opramacare is going to be to them. You do know that there are THOUSANDS of regs from the boards created in Opramacare that have yet to be written right? Do you know what they will be, um no and neither does anybody else. Its called uncertainty and there is plenty of it. A CEO that ignores this isn't a very good CEO. And it is funny that the original article was basically salivating over the 2 trillion in cash reserves that biz currently has.
Stop majoring in Women's Studies and start majoring in STEM. That would "force" these companies to hire them since that is what they need, not communications majors.bluetick wrote:The better question is what can US citizens (aka consumers) do to force them to hire US citizens.innocentbystander wrote:What do you want government to "do" to business to force them to hire US citizens?bluetick wrote:Fuck that shit. That "they'll just move their money overseas" dog just doesn't hunt anymore. The ones who are inclined to move their money will do so even if times are great. A recent presidential contender comes to mind...
We've lived under the sword of what the Job Creators will do if they don't get their way long enough. Let's kick this pig and get it on.
I drive a 2011 Chevy Cruze. Leased it, $199 a month. I'll turn it in, in 2014 and get another Cruze most likely.bluetick wrote:What do you drive, Repeal-the-27th-amendment? I'm guessing you're Korean all the way. In our garage we're Ford, Ford, and Chrysler (a piece of shit but it's American Red, White, and Blue by God).
LOL Well which is it, genius? "Efficient companies need fewer employees to do the same amount of work"...or "uncertainty and there is plenty of it" precludes CEOs from hiring? Which company line are you going with, Smithers?puterbac wrote: Yeah I understand it. Efficient companies need fewer employees to do the same amount of work and have higher profits.
What you don't seem to understand is that companies with thousands of employees are sitting on cash instead of investing it or expanding because they do not know what their taxes are going to be and what the cost of Opramacare is going to be to them. You do know that there are THOUSANDS of regs from the boards created in Opramacare that have yet to be written right? Do you know what they will be, um no and neither does anybody else. Its called uncertainty and there is plenty of it. A CEO that ignores this isn't a very good CEO. And it is funny that the original article was basically salivating over the 2 trillion in cash reserves that biz currently has. That is all the companies in the USA for fucks sake. Govt will spend that much in 6 months or less.
Its both.bluetick wrote:LOL Well which is it, genius? "Efficient companies need fewer employees to do the same amount of work"...or "uncertainty and there is plenty of it" precludes CEOs from hiring? Which company line are you going with, Smithers?puterbac wrote: Yeah I understand it. Efficient companies need fewer employees to do the same amount of work and have higher profits.
What you don't seem to understand is that companies with thousands of employees are sitting on cash instead of investing it or expanding because they do not know what their taxes are going to be and what the cost of Opramacare is going to be to them. You do know that there are THOUSANDS of regs from the boards created in Opramacare that have yet to be written right? Do you know what they will be, um no and neither does anybody else. Its called uncertainty and there is plenty of it. A CEO that ignores this isn't a very good CEO. And it is funny that the original article was basically salivating over the 2 trillion in cash reserves that biz currently has. That is all the companies in the USA for fucks sake. Govt will spend that much in 6 months or less.
Kick the pig...move the ball forward....get off the schneide....bang a gong/get it on. As in 'deal with our looming fiscal deadline' - you incredibly clueless dipwad. LOL @ Occupy Wall Street expression. I don't speak OWS - I own an insurance agency for crissakes. I make payrolls and pay business taxes and deal with regulations you could never comprehend even if you did manage to get the cap off of that smart-pill bottle.innocentbystander wrote:
He said "lets kick the pig" (his words) whatever the fuck that Occupy Wall Street expression means. It doesn't mean much here at The Goat Pen that's for damn sure. But at least it allows Blue Tick to keep his pride and not say anything meaningful because he doesn't have any real idea what to do other than government going into bank accounts of these corporations and siezing the money.