The Goat Pen

Dr. Nostron wrote:Thats the nicest thing anyone has ever said about me......

Maybe you can get it engraved on a plaque.

Excellent. Heh.

well done, Kev

LOL - classic - thats going up in the pool cabana.....

Better check with Opie first.

And yet still demands a folding chair to the skull......

f you, brm, hell even the Great Malenko would have you pooping your britches...

kevi - excellent work on th plaque

Dean Malenko had better bring help if he wants some of me. I've taken dumps bigger than him.

heh - malenko was great entertainment - one of his best quotes went something like, "Soley, when I interview with you I have to check my brains at the door..."

Him and Jericho did have a good feud. Malenko - Man with a 1000 holds. Jericho kept going around saying he had 1001. Funny shit. And all that time Lex Luger had 3. Headlock, clothsline, and torture rack.

heh, chief wahoo mcdaniel only had the tomahawk chop ( years before either fsu or the braves)

God Bless our Troops. Thank you for all you do and have done.

By Corey Clark
NoleSports.com editor

After further review, the hit was legal.

During Saturday's 23-19 win over Miami — a game that was besieged by long reviews in both halves — the Atlantic Coast Conference said on Monday that Florida State linebacker Nigel Bradham should not have been ejected for his jarring hit on Miami receiver LaRon Byrd.

And after watching the replay the league office, in a release sent at 5:25 p.m., said it was actually a legal collision. Though Doug Rhoads, the ACC Coordinator of Officials, did agree earlier in the day that a penalty flag should have been thrown.

"Anytime you target a defenseless player above the shoulder in the head or neck area it's a penalty," Rhoads said. "It doesn't matter whether you leave your feet or not, you just can't target up in that area. When in question it's a foul."

The exact wording in the rulebook is: No player shall target and initiate contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, elbow or shoulder. When in question it is a foul.

But what about the fact that replay angles show that Bradham's shoulder never hit Byrd in the neck or the head, but was instead planted into his chest/upper arm area.

"It was up high," Rhoads said. "Clearly it was up high. But realize in real time the official doesn't have the benefit of replay or zoom and all that. Then you add the caveat of 'when in question.' If you don't know, but you think it is, we want it called. When in question we want it fouled."

Said FSU head coach Jimbo Fisher: "I don't know (how) else to coach the guy. … When you look at it he didn't launch, didn't leave his feet. Hit below the shoulder. Everything football. The disappointing thing is we had an interception on the play that would have ended the ball game."

As for Bradham's subsequent ejection? Rhoads said the rulebook states that flagrant offenders should be disqualified.

"Frankly, we don't think it was flagrant," he said. "But that was the officials' judgment."

The ACC did say that Bradham would not face any additional punishment for his "flagrant" hit and would be available to play on Saturday night against Virginia.

During his weekly press conference Florida State head coach Jimbo Fisher said he understood why the penalty was thrown. And thinks it's next to impossible, live, for officials on the field to be able to discern — when it's close — whether a hit is legal or not.

"They need to review it," he said. "They review everything else. Review it then. Let's get it right. If you're going to do it, let's get them all right."

Your welcome, Augie. Bcubed they're killin' the gsme we love. or used to...

So how many times has the head of ACC officials (a Gator, FWIW) had to come back and apologize to FSU for blown calls? 3 times this year, at least. And supposedly they admitted to causing a 21 point swing against Clemson. I can understand missing the opening fumble or the Bradham non-flagrant hit, but when there are cumulatively 10+ bad calls in a given game and 80% of them are against the Noles, it's hard not to get pissed.

Howdid BOJ get kevs password?

they're cousins by the same mother
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it's a Tennessee thing

10ac - we have to put up with ACC refs this year in the swamp - this does not bode well

congratulations to UVa on reclaiming posession of the Jefferson-Eppes trophy

....despite the refs' best efforts

Haha - UVA complaining about the refs on Saturday? That's rich.

Though the last 15 seconds were certainly a clusterfuck.