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Post by Owlman » Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:28 pm

Clinton tax rates, aren't those higher than the tax rates we have now?
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Post by Professor Tiger » Sun Sep 01, 2013 1:12 pm

Did we just see an admission from PNN that Clinton did something RIGHT? That the economic boom on his watch was't merely caused by the rise of the Internet?

I think history has just been made here, people.
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Post by Jungle Rat » Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:18 pm

Who the fuck puts their feet on the walls?

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Post by sardis » Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:58 pm

Owlman wrote:Clinton tax rates, aren't those higher than the tax rates we have now?
You are forgetting about the additional .9% Obamacare tax on earnings and an additional 3.8% Obamacare tax on investments.

Just did a projection for a client whose business brought in a hedge fund investor. Since the agreement says that the LLC has to distribute cash for investor taxes that result from their share of the income of the company, it has to distribute out 56% of the earnings since that is the combined effective rate of a Manhattan resident.

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Post by Jungle Rat » Sun Sep 01, 2013 3:27 pm

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Post by innocentbystander » Sun Sep 01, 2013 3:59 pm

Johnette's Daddy wrote:A bachelor tax is still unlikely to help her daughters. There is a virtual army of single, professional women with no kids and decent-to-high incomes out there looking for husbands. The problem is that these women are SO desperate that they will put up with dump truck full of crap just to have a man, so this is what halfway decent single guys are offered when they date single women over 30:

*Porn-star style sex on demand
*One-sided monogamy (only the women are monogamous)
*No fiscal liability (chicks will move them in and not demand rent)
*Willingness maintain the above listed conditions for however many years/decades it takes the guy to decide if he wants to get married.
Well I agree with pretty much all of that. But you just made this woman's argument for a bachelor tax because (#4) will cost him financially if he wants to live a polygamous lifestyle of porn sex with whomever he wants without and legal contract binding him financially to one woman.

I have met her daughters. No, they will not be getting married. The two of them need to lose a combine 150 pounds before that happens.
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Which, as Forbes reports, is a huge problem in China http://www.forbes.com/sites/china/2011/ ... gle-men/2/
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Post by Jungle Rat » Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:11 pm

Why? You scouting for another wife?

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Post by 10ac » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:23 pm

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Post by Owlman » Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:30 pm

so you're saying that tax rates aren't lower now than under Clinton??
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Post by sardis » Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:04 am

For me they aren't. For my clients, who are mid to large business owners and investors, and the type of businesses that employ the majority of the people in this country, the tax burden is higher under Obama. There is a number of reasons why we have low employment in this country and this is one of them.

Now, I know you say, well, for everyone else they are lower than Clinton. Problem is, those people don't hire very many people, statistically.

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Post by AlabamAlum » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:13 pm

What was the backstory?
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Post by 10ac » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:38 pm

Published on Sep 1, 2013
Iraq war veteran Emily Yates was arrested on Friday after a dispute with police about where she could stand while playing her banjo during a protest against U.S. military action in Syria. Video uploaded to Live Leak shows Yates asking Federal Parks Police why she could not stand in a shaded area of Independence Mall in Philadelphia.

After several minutes of discussion, two officers bent Yates over a park bench and handcuffed her. "We live in a police state," she shouts! "We live in a f*cking police state! They're damaging my body and my personal property! I went to war for this country! Stop manhandling me! Stop! Stop! Help! Help!"

By the time Yates is dragged from the park, at least eight officers are participating in the arrest.

A web page claiming to be the "Emily Yates Defense Fund" insisted that the activist "was not engaged in any illegal activity and was not told why she was being attacked."

"While she was busy playing a song, park rangers accosted her. When she demanded an explanation for their aggression, they pinned her onto a park bench and dragged her off to an undisclosed location," according to the website. "We are not being told where she is being held and she has not been allowed any communication with the outside world."

Watch this video from Live Leak, broadcast Aug. 31, 2013.
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Post by AlabamAlum » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:47 pm

I'm tired of the police.
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Post by 10ac » Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:03 pm

They were park rangers with several "real" policemen looking on.
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Post by BigRedMan » Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:20 am

AlabamAlum wrote:What was the backstory?

Seemed obvious to me. She was playing the banjo.
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Post by hedge » Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:52 am

I didn't see any evidence that those park rangers were gay...
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Post by gule » Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:29 am

bitch should have played better. noise pollution is criminal

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Post by Johnette's Daddy » Tue Sep 03, 2013 1:30 pm

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Priorities USA Action, the pro-Obama super PAC that led attacks against Republican Mitt Romney, is quietly positioning itself to ­become the main independent group funding a media campaign for Hillary Rodham Clinton in the 2016 presidential race, according to Democrats familiar with the plans.

Strategists and donors to Priorities are in discussions about how best to help Clinton should she decide to run again for president, three Democrats familiar with the talks said.

The emergence of Priorities as a pro-Clinton ally introduces a heavyweight player into the constellation of super PACs and other independent groups already focused on the 2016 race. The move also shows how the political forces that helped reelect President Obama are increasingly gathering around Clinton and could make it more difficult for Vice President Biden or other Democratic hopefuls to compete for the nomination if she runs.

The people familiar with the plans said Priorities is developing a different mission than Ready for Hillary, a group started this year by ardent Clinton supporters. While Ready for Hillary is focused on grass-roots organizing, Priorities is planning to become what one of the Democrats called “the big money vehicle” that would produce and air expensive television advertisements.

The people spoke on the condition of anonymity because the plans for Priorities have not been finalized. Priorities strategist Paul Begala, a former Clinton White House adviser, declined to comment on behalf of the super PAC.

One of the Democrats said Priorities is not planning to become active in the race until Clinton “gives a definite nod that she’s going to run.” Conservative super PACs, such as the Stop Hillary PAC, have already jumped into the fray with attacks on the former U.S. senator and secretary of state.

Unlike federal candidates, super PACs can accept unlimited contributions as long as they do not coordinate their strategy directly with candidates or political parties.

Priorities, started by two former Obama White House aides, was widely regarded as one of the most effective independent groups in the 2012 presidential race. After a sluggish fundraising start, the super PAC ended up raising nearly $80 million — pouring it into a relentless barrage of swing-state television commercials that portrayed Romney as an elitist corporate raider.

Although Priorities spent far less than the pro-Romney super PAC, Restore Our Future, the group’s early and consistent focus on Romney’s record at Bain Capital put a negative cast on his business experience that proved hard for the GOP nominee to shake.

“They got off to a slow start, but they had a really strong finish, and ultimately they received a lot of credit for the negative mes­saging that was most effective against Romney,” said Phil Singer, a Democratic strategist who ran the war room for Clinton’s 2008 White House bid. “Priorities has been able to establish credibility.”

Refashioning itself as a pro-Clinton super PAC would be a natural fit for Priorities, which already has strong ties to both Bill and Hillary Clinton. Sean Sweeney, who was the top aide to then-White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, helped launch Priorities with former White House deputy press secretary Bill Burton and continues to steer it. Sweeney worked as a legislative assistant for then-Sen. Hillary Clinton, and people in Clinton’s orbit described Sweeney as a trusted loyalist.
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