Virginia Tech Hokies

Moderators: Dr. Strangelove, AlabamAlum, innocentbystander

User avatar
The Gray Ghost
Senior
Posts: 1141
Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:09 pm
Mascot Fight: Croc/Gator/Etc

Re: Virginia Tech Hokies

Post by The Gray Ghost » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:06 pm

Gentlemen, Doc is in trouble....

User avatar
JRB
Sophomore
Posts: 326
Joined: Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:15 am
College Hoops Affiliation: Michigan

Post by JRB » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:55 pm

Now Ryan Malleck, VT's starting TE, has suffered a torn labrum and is out for the season. This means that VT will also be playing Alabama without a single TE who has ever caught a pass in college. VT now returns only 2 of its top eleven receivers from last year, and one of those two is hurt.
"Reserving judgements is a matter of infinite hope." F. Scott Fitzgerald

User avatar
hedge
Legend
Posts: 26727
Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:09 am
College Hoops Affiliation: North Carolina
Preferred Barbecue Style: Vinegar!
Mascot Fight: Bear/Grizzly/Etc

Re: Virginia Tech Hokies

Post by hedge » Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:01 pm

Let me respond before AA can: Sure, but Alabama only has two returning receivers from last year who combined for only 1600 yards and 24 TD's b/w them. Their backups were high school All Americans, but they only combined for less than 900 yards b/w the three of them. And the third string has limited college experience, plus two 5 star high school All Americans who have never played a down of college ball but had career receiving totals of over 6000 yards between all of them. We're fucking screwed...
I want someone's ass blistered in the middle of Thanksgiving Square.

User avatar
JRB
Sophomore
Posts: 326
Joined: Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:15 am
College Hoops Affiliation: Michigan

Post by JRB » Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:28 pm

Malleck is probably the single worst injury VT could have suffered at this point. Lack of production from the TE position was a major factor in VT's offensive struggles last season, but Malleck improved as the season progressed to become a reliable player. With Scot Loeffler's emphasis on heavy formations, he figured to be a prominent part of VT's passing game, and his backups weren't even recruited as tight ends-- they're converted defensive ends.
"Reserving judgements is a matter of infinite hope." F. Scott Fitzgerald

Dr. Nostron
Junior
Posts: 852
Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:56 pm
College Hoops Affiliation: Florida State
Preferred Barbecue Style: Tomato!
Mascot Fight: Bear/Grizzly/Etc

Re: Virginia Tech Hokies

Post by Dr. Nostron » Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:03 pm

The teams I watch the most - FSU, UGA, UF - I can never seem to get ahead on - just treading water.

For some reason - I am able to bet Bama at about a 80% success rate.

Hopefully my luck doesnt run out tomorrow....

User avatar
JRB
Sophomore
Posts: 326
Joined: Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:15 am
College Hoops Affiliation: Michigan

Post by JRB » Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:11 pm

I don't think VT would cover tomorrow even if everyone was healthy. As it is, if VT covers tomorrow, the Hokies should carry the entire coaching staff off the field in celebration.
"Reserving judgements is a matter of infinite hope." F. Scott Fitzgerald

User avatar
AlabamAlum
Legend
Posts: 10074
Joined: Mon May 30, 2011 9:12 am
College Hoops Affiliation: Alabama
Preferred Barbecue Style: Tomato!
Mascot Fight: Bear/Grizzly/Etc
Location: SixToe, Alabama
Contact:

Re: Virginia Tech Hokies

Post by AlabamAlum » Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:53 pm

Well, I am on my way to Atlanta. I'm sure I will be crying into my burger at The Vortex tomorrow night.
"The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity."
— Abraham Lincoln
__________________________________________

Yes, I still miss Coach Bryant.

dave_rickart
Senior
Posts: 2160
Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:59 pm
College Hoops Affiliation: Virginia
Preferred Barbecue Style: Tomato!
Mascot Fight: Big Cat/Tiger/Lion/Etc

Re: Virginia Tech Hokies

Post by dave_rickart » Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:38 am

c'mon, being in Georgia isn't THAT depressing...
Home of the 2019 National Champions.

User avatar
hedge
Legend
Posts: 26727
Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:09 am
College Hoops Affiliation: North Carolina
Preferred Barbecue Style: Vinegar!
Mascot Fight: Bear/Grizzly/Etc

Re: Virginia Tech Hokies

Post by hedge » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:52 am

" I'll bet you the margin of victory will be closer to 25 than 10."

Doesn't get much closer to 25 than that...

Pats self on back...
I want someone's ass blistered in the middle of Thanksgiving Square.

User avatar
AlabamAlum
Legend
Posts: 10074
Joined: Mon May 30, 2011 9:12 am
College Hoops Affiliation: Alabama
Preferred Barbecue Style: Tomato!
Mascot Fight: Bear/Grizzly/Etc
Location: SixToe, Alabama
Contact:

Re: Virginia Tech Hokies

Post by AlabamAlum » Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:24 am

Alabama offense: 14
VaTech offense: 10

We miraculously had a kick off, a punt, and an INT returned for touchdowns. And that's a good thing because VaTech completely shut the Bama O down.
"The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity."
— Abraham Lincoln
__________________________________________

Yes, I still miss Coach Bryant.

dave_rickart
Senior
Posts: 2160
Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:59 pm
College Hoops Affiliation: Virginia
Preferred Barbecue Style: Tomato!
Mascot Fight: Big Cat/Tiger/Lion/Etc

Re: Virginia Tech Hokies

Post by dave_rickart » Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:28 am

VT popped one run, and otherwise put up 135 yards on 58 snaps.
Home of the 2019 National Champions.

User avatar
AlabamAlum
Legend
Posts: 10074
Joined: Mon May 30, 2011 9:12 am
College Hoops Affiliation: Alabama
Preferred Barbecue Style: Tomato!
Mascot Fight: Bear/Grizzly/Etc
Location: SixToe, Alabama
Contact:

Re: Virginia Tech Hokies

Post by AlabamAlum » Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:40 am

Yeah, we shut their O down. They also returned the favor. Like I said, only 14 offensive points and Bama had a 38-yard pass for one of their TDs. Take that away and we had 168 yards of offense on 61 plays.
"The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity."
— Abraham Lincoln
__________________________________________

Yes, I still miss Coach Bryant.

User avatar
hedge
Legend
Posts: 26727
Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:09 am
College Hoops Affiliation: North Carolina
Preferred Barbecue Style: Vinegar!
Mascot Fight: Bear/Grizzly/Etc

Re: Virginia Tech Hokies

Post by hedge » Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:21 pm

You're right, special teams TD's don't count. Not really part of the game. I bet Saban and his staff don't even coach any special teams plays or situations. Probably never mention it at all until game day when it's time to put some guys on the field to return a kick. They probably just send out the first 11 guys they can get the attention of. So you're right, those 3 TD's were pure luck on Bama's part. Still, they count and still Bama won by 25...
I want someone's ass blistered in the middle of Thanksgiving Square.

User avatar
AlabamAlum
Legend
Posts: 10074
Joined: Mon May 30, 2011 9:12 am
College Hoops Affiliation: Alabama
Preferred Barbecue Style: Tomato!
Mascot Fight: Bear/Grizzly/Etc
Location: SixToe, Alabama
Contact:

Re: Virginia Tech Hokies

Post by AlabamAlum » Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:41 pm

Wow, you're daft. I never said special teams TDs 'don't count'. They do. Taking a kick to the house is like a halfcourt shot in basketball. It's rare, and there is usually a bit of luck involved - it's certainly nothing you can realistically plan on. Ditto the pick-6 we had.
"The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity."
— Abraham Lincoln
__________________________________________

Yes, I still miss Coach Bryant.

User avatar
hedge
Legend
Posts: 26727
Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:09 am
College Hoops Affiliation: North Carolina
Preferred Barbecue Style: Vinegar!
Mascot Fight: Bear/Grizzly/Etc

Re: Virginia Tech Hokies

Post by hedge » Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:48 pm

I'm sure there's a way to quantify it, but offhand I'd say a halfcourt shot that goes in is far more rare than a kickoff or punt return for a TD. Bottom line is Bama won by 15 points more than you predicted. You claim to be the voice of reason for Bama football and it's prospects on the field. So far, not so good...
I want someone's ass blistered in the middle of Thanksgiving Square.

User avatar
hedge
Legend
Posts: 26727
Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:09 am
College Hoops Affiliation: North Carolina
Preferred Barbecue Style: Vinegar!
Mascot Fight: Bear/Grizzly/Etc

Re: Virginia Tech Hokies

Post by hedge » Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:51 pm

I will agree that having a kickoff, punt and INT returned for TD's all in the same game is highly unlikely (although I would stop short of your characterization of "miraculous"), but I bet Bama has more games this year where they get at least one of those than games they don't...
I want someone's ass blistered in the middle of Thanksgiving Square.

User avatar
AlabamAlum
Legend
Posts: 10074
Joined: Mon May 30, 2011 9:12 am
College Hoops Affiliation: Alabama
Preferred Barbecue Style: Tomato!
Mascot Fight: Bear/Grizzly/Etc
Location: SixToe, Alabama
Contact:

Re: Virginia Tech Hokies

Post by AlabamAlum » Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:53 pm

6.8% of halfcourt shots go in. Only 5.5% of kickoffs are returned for a TD.

And, I admit my prediction was wrong, but only due to the minor miracles mentioned earlier.
"The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity."
— Abraham Lincoln
__________________________________________

Yes, I still miss Coach Bryant.

User avatar
Jungle Rat
The Pied Piper of Crazy
Posts: 30215
Joined: Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:38 am
College Hoops Affiliation: Florida
Preferred Barbecue Style: Tomato!
Mascot Fight: Croc/Gator/Etc
Location: Crows Parents Basement

Re: Virginia Tech Hokies

Post by Jungle Rat » Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:23 pm

Glad you're ok AA. I was starting to get worried about you. That one was a little to close for comfort. This Alabama team at this point just doesn't have that Championship umph that you need in game 1. I'm starting to understand your concerns now. You weren't joking. At this point, Alabama is not a BCS Championship team. You better hope Nick can get this crew together soon.

User avatar
JRB
Sophomore
Posts: 326
Joined: Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:15 am
College Hoops Affiliation: Michigan

Post by JRB » Sat Sep 21, 2013 4:16 pm

If Virginia Tech is going to have any chance of making a bowl game this season, they had to beat East Carolina and Marshall. Despite getting outplayed at times by ECU and for most of the game by Marshall, the Hokies managed to win a couple of ugly games, but they might not manage much else this year. They lost starting tailback Trey Edmunds to a hip pointer, didn't have starting placekicker Cody Journell due to another suspension, and only pulled out the win over Marshall in three overtimes, in the one week of the season VT didn't want to play a triple-overtime game(VT goes to Georgia Tech on Thursday night). The offense is still largely terrible-- the opening week's surprising performance from the offensive line appears to be an anomaly, as VT has given up repeated sacks and lost yardage runs the last two weeks, and the receivers still struggle to catch the ball. Logan Thomas appears to have maxed out as a QB (though he certainly could be getting more help). At this point, he is likely to throw at least four or five ill-advised passes a game. Journell's backup, Ethan Keyserling, missed three field goals, two of them very makeable, after Journell struggled mightily against ECU, so getting points figures to be even more of a challenge going forward. This outcome was greatly influenced by torrential rain-- Marshall's passing game was killing VT in the first half, but as the rain got worse, Marshall's offense bogged down, and the Herd missed a field goal in regulation that would have given them enough to win. One nice thing about this slog of a game: VT blocked a punt for a touchdown and blocked a field goal in overtime to give themselves one more chance.
"Reserving judgements is a matter of infinite hope." F. Scott Fitzgerald

User avatar
hedge
Legend
Posts: 26727
Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:09 am
College Hoops Affiliation: North Carolina
Preferred Barbecue Style: Vinegar!
Mascot Fight: Bear/Grizzly/Etc

Re: Virginia Tech Hokies

Post by hedge » Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:03 am

"Ethan Keyserling, missed three field goals, two of them very makeable, after Journell struggled mightily against ECU, so getting points figures to be even more of a challenge going forward."

Special teams points don't really count. Except in the "miraculous" sense...
I want someone's ass blistered in the middle of Thanksgiving Square.

Post Reply