Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

[Professor Tiger]

IB, now that you are on record as opposing women voting or serving on juries (because women are generally incapable of objective reason and seeing cause-and-effect), do you think women should be barred from being doctors? After all, doctors must be scientific and deal with objective reason. And they must clearly be able to see cause and effect. If doctors can't do that, innocent people will suffer and die.

So what say you, IB? No female doctors too?

I'll start microwaving a bag of popcorn and eagerly await your response.

[hedge]

No women lawyers or judges, either...

[Professor Tiger]

Now hold on there hoss... Like I said, doctors are scientists who deal with objective reason and logical cause and effect.

Lawyers don't do anything remotely resembling that. In fact, they are often rewarded for doing just the opposite.

[Jungle Rat]

He probably wants to keep those bitches off the NFL sidelines as well. And Norm forbid the give us the evening news.

[10ac]

I vote for keeping 'em off the sideline. I don't care that so and so's father didn't make the game because he had to tend to a sick puppy or some other bullshit.

[Owlman]

Cheerleading's ok though, right?

[Jungle Rat]

As long as their coach is a priest I don't see why not.

[10ac]

Cheerleading's ok though, right?

Of course.

[Owlman]

heh. South Park video coming?

The American Revolution was a flop
Paul Pirie, a former historian, is a freelance writer in Ontario(Canadian)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... story.html

[sardis]

Author drudges out the old, stale arguments of why America sucks that we've heard for years. He needs to ask himself what kind of rule Australia and Britain would be under if it wasn't for those brutal, crass, freedom loving Americans.

[Professor Tiger]

RE: The American Revolution was a flop

Most Americans work longer hours and have fewer paid vacations and benefits — including health care — than their counterparts in most advanced countries. Working oneself into an early grave does not do much for one’s happiness quotient. This year the United States tied for 14th in “life satisfaction” on an annual quality-of-life study by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. That puts the United States behind Canada (eighth) and Australia (12th). A report co-authored last year by the economist Jeffrey Sachs ranked the United States 10th in the world for happiness — again behind Canada and Australia. The Sachs study found that the United States has made “striking economic and technological progress over the past half century without gains in the self-reported happiness of the citizenry. Instead, uncertainties and anxieties are high, social and economic inequalities have widened considerably, social trust is in decline, and confidence in government is at an all-time low.”

I agree with this part. We are working harder and harder to buy more and more things and are becoming less and less happy.

But if our health care system is so bad compared to Canada's, then why do (mostly wealthy) Canadians flock to America every year to get treatment on their own dime? I also predict that when Obamacare fully kicks in, a string of outstanding hospitals will pop up just over the border in Mexico for wealthy Americans and Canadians to get healthcare denied them by their own countries.

[Owlman]

Most wealthy people everywhere can make decisions and options that others don't. There are many wealthy Americans that go to India for their surgery at surgical resorts. Since the wealthy in this country constitute about 5% of the population, there opinion wouldn't have that much effect on the numbers. More effect on policy however due to economics.

Plus, PPACA will not get rid of private hospitals in the U.S. For those that want to pay more for immediate services from Canada, they won't need to go to Mexico.

[10ac]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w-WMn_zHCV ... g-logo-xit

[10ac]

[youtube]g-logo-xit[/youtube]

[hedge]

" I also predict that when Obamacare fully kicks in, a string of outstanding hospitals will pop up just over the border in Mexico for wealthy Americans and Canadians to get healthcare denied them by their own countries."

If it's for wealthy Americans, why would they have to build it just over the border? Can't the wealthy afford to fly to nicer spots (and not necessarily in Mexico) where they can convalesce in luxury, rather than Nogales or Tiajuana?

[innocentbystander]

IB, now that you are on record as opposing women voting or serving on juries (because women are generally incapable of objective reason and seeing cause-and-effect), do you think women should be barred from being doctors? After all, doctors must be scientific and deal with objective reason. And they must clearly be able to see cause and effect. If doctors can't do that, innocent people will suffer and die.

No I don't think women should be medical doctors (except in some very rare, unique, circumstances.) But my belief as to why women should NOT be medical doctors, you have not touched on the reasoning.

You aren't even close professor. Care to guess why I don't think they should (in most cases?) I'll give you a hint (lets see how smart you are): the reason why I don't think women should be medical doctors deals with ROI.

Okay, go professor.

[Owlman]

ROI: Racketball on ice?

[innocentbystander]

ROI: Racketball on ice?

I didn't ask you, counselor.

[hedge]

"No I don't think women should be medical doctors (except in some very rare, unique, circumstances.)"

Let me guess. It's going to take a very special person to decide which women qualify under precisely which rare and unique circumstances. Let me guess (again) who you have in mind for such a job: YOU! Wow, how convenient. Sounds like a great system, you (or some group you have approved of) get to have final say over every single appointment of a female in what in most cases should be a man's job. Sounds awesome! I'm sure everybody else will feel the same say. Damn, dude, you're a fucking genius! Way to go!

[innocentbystander]

"No I don't think women should be medical doctors (except in some very rare, unique, circumstances.)"

Let me guess. It's going to take a very special person to decide which women qualify under precisely which rare and unique circumstances.

No.

Let me guess (again) who you have in mind for such a job: YOU!

No.

It is not about me (or anyone) deciding which women should be granted the privilege of medical school and being medical doctors. Being a medical doctor (in these United States) offers privileges and a lifestyle very few people (regardless of their gender) will ever be entitled to enjoy. But before I reveal my poker hand I want the professor to weigh in on why I have the opinion I have. Afterall, the professor asked the question. I only (partially) answered it.

<patiently waiting on professor>