Florida State Seminoles

[Bklyn]

I have no problem with what Snowden did. He's a true American.

A true American does not give secrets to foreign governments. Actually, I struggle to find a true American who ever did.

How great would it be if it were leaked how we were intercepting German communication during WWII and cracked their encryptions? "A true American" is not a title one would find easy to label on the person exposing that.

[Toemeesleather]

Sooo, the NYT is not true American?


Interesting.

[Jungle Rat]

He exposed to us that our own govt was spying on us and he's now a criminal for exposing the illegal things they did against us? C'mon now

[Bklyn]

This is what I don't get. FISA Courts have been in existence since 1979. The Patriot Act has been in place for 10 years. He didn't expose we were being "spied" on to me. Anyone who read a paper knew it was going on. I never gave a shit when he exposed the data mining done with these providers. It was an old story to me that finally got some attention after 10 years of lost privacy. Welcome to the party, rest of America. I officially started caring when he starts giving up secrets regarding location and structure of inteligence facilities to foreign governments, and when he threatens to give more classified documents to foreigners. I have no idea why that does not enrage people. What is the difference between him and Aldridge Ames (if I'm thinking of the right dude)?

Also, when did the NYT give up state secrets to foreign entities?

[Bklyn]

If it wasn't for the horse being out the barn, you would here more pols screaming that this Snowden issue is an example of why Privatization of government activities is a myopic and dangerous idea.

[Owlman]

NYT vs. U.S. The publication of the Pentagon Papers. Because of the 1st Amendment, it isn't the NYT that exposed anything. It was the insider that gave them that information. It ain't the publisher, it's the informant.

[Jungle Rat]

Id have done the same thing he did

[Owlman]

Then I'd be calling for your execution. But I'd feel bad about it since it was you Rat

[Jungle Rat]

Aw. Thanks.

[hedge]

I have been calling for Rat's execution for years...

[Bklyn]

Yeah, I'd miss you Rat. But, you'd hafta go. There is no love of country when you compromise the country to foreign governments, especially when what you are divulging actually hurts the American citizen, not helps.

Again, the irony is not lost on me that he is passing through some of the most repressive regimes searching for asylum.

[Jungle Rat]

You'll never catch me. I gots hiding skilz

[Owlman]

u didn't employ them previously when the police came for you

[Jungle Rat]

Oh yes I did. For 3 weeks at least. Then I turned myself in. The roaches at the dive I was staying were starting to bite.

[Jungle Rat]

Happy 4th of July week.

[10ac]

That stuff always gives me a lump in my throat. (and not the kind DSL gets in his)

[Jungle Rat]

Admit it. You cried. I did

[innocentbystander]

Please say a prayer for our 19 fallen fire fighters.

[hedge]

No

[Cletus]

Please say a prayer for our 19 fallen fire fighters.

A little late for that. Too bad your god is such a prick that it felt the need to kill those guys.