eCat wrote:its not their education system - many of those people get their educations here.
Exactly! But the education they are getting, is "higher" education. And the "higher" education they are getting is meaningful. NFW would Pujab be sent from Bombay to ASU to get a degree in "Women's Studies." Leave that bullshit for Lena Dunham and her "Girls" crowd who have parents that can subsidize their existance in New York City while interning for free.
eCat wrote:and we do need more service sector people to fill jobs.
No. We do not.
If Coco's restaurant in Scottsdale hire's a contractor to manicure/sculpture their pristine landscaping, it is only because that contractor has hired illegals to do the work. Only that way can the contractor bid that work at a cheap enough price to "CREATE" a demand for that work. If that contractor had no illegals to choose from, then he would be forced to follow the law and pay at least minimum wage. And US citizens in Arizona are NOT willing to do backbreaking landscaping work for minimum wage. You'll get $15/hour. And at $15/hour, the contractor would NEVER be able to win that "bid" at Coco's Restaurant. The lawn would not be mown or it would be done by the manager "...when he got around to it." They are not going to pay any REAL MONEY to have that work done because it is unnecessary. Bottom line, that landscaping "yob" should not exist.
These are not "jobs." These are "yobs." The only reason we have "yobs" is because we have a perminant underclass of servant beings willing to break the law and enter our country unlawfully and give up their lives to be our servants. And they do that because their 3rd world shithole is so close to our 1st world Rome. They vote with their feet.
eCat wrote:If we didn't we wouldn't have this glut of illegal aliens from Mexico coming here to take jobs that don't pay shit. From meat packers to health care workers to hotel maids, there are many, many jobs that will not be automated.
We don't need all these hotels. Maids were never well paid (worked just for tips) because any brain-dead person can make a bed. That is not a job worthy of earning a living.
Meat packing used to be well paid when it was unionized and localized in the rust belt. No more. It is now done in Greely Colorado and done by illegals because those jobs are "well formed." You can teach the brain dead how to kill and butcher a cow. So a "job" has turned into a "yob." At some point, even that "yob" will be done by a robot.
eCat wrote:The problem is there are too many people that think that a person with a high school education working at the bakery should be paid poverty wages because they haven't gone to college to become a computer scientist.
No, they are paid poverty wages because I refuse to pay more than $5.99 for a Pumpkin Pie. That is the "price." If you raise it (to pay the baker more) I'll say "...fuck you, I'll bake my own pie." You can't force me to pay more or a pie, or a cake (or a loaf of bread.) I only buy it because it's so cheap. Otherwise, I'll make it myself. People used to do that when we had "bakers" when Supermarkets didn't have all this automated into "well formed" jobs.
eCat wrote:It doesn't address the reality of the situation, only an ideology that creates more economic disparity in this country and a vicious cycle of government dependency (which by and large the same people that rail the kid shouldn't be paid anything are also quick to point out we have too many people on government assistance).
The kid is going "kid work." Kid work is done by kids who aren't paid enough to "think." If he could think, he could do real work and make real money.
eCat wrote:So we can sit around and talk about how these 60% of Americans need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps
They can't because they pussied out in college and took Women's Studies classes instead of getting a man's education (a meaningful education) which teaches you how to think and reason logically. The future jobs of America that pay living wages are jobs that are not "well formed." If you only want to do a "well formed" job, then you will compete with 15 year old kids provided you can pry them away from the X-Box.
eCat wrote:while American business continue to hire illegal aliens, legislate anti-union policies and cut funding of education
Most of these teachers are helping. I want my 12 year old to know C# not Home-Ec. We can't fire them, they are tenured. And they have no clue how to teach kids to do stuff that is meaningful as many of these teachers have never done anything meaningful in their lives. They know nothing about business.
eCat wrote:while at the same time we complain about the 47% that believe the government should provide them with these crazy things like food, housing and healthcare - or we can start addressing where we are as a nation instead of where Fox News thinks we should be and creates its share of wealthy talking heads profiting from it.
It comes back to the individual making poor choices. They can do for themselves but they pussy out and complain that things aren't given to them. You sound like the 21 year old that lives across the street complaining he can't get an office job because everyone wants him to take a drug test. He smokes pot and his parents think that is okay, so he smokes. And he can't get a job. And he bitches to me how life is so fucking unfair and he can't get his shot.
Feminism: Eve eats ALL the apples, gives God the middle finder when He confronts her, and has the serpent serve Adam with an injunction ordering him to both stay away from her AND to provide her food and shelter because he dragged her out of the Garden.