The Arrogant, Entitltled World Champion Los Angeles Lakers

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Re: The Arrogant, Entitltled World Champion Los Angeles Lake

Post by Simitar » Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:57 pm

I'm still surprised they didn't go with Adelman at the time.

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Post by Johnette's Daddy » Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:47 pm

Owlman wrote:Too late. It should have been made at the end of last season
Reports are they considered it over the summer, but decided to give Mike a shot with a full training camp.
During a press conference later, O'Mara was asked if he had any advice for Zimmerman, and he answered, "Pay me."

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Post by Johnette's Daddy » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:03 pm

Jungle Rat wrote:ESPN is covering this like the death of a sitting President.

Way to early to make this move. Ridiculous.
Wrong, Grasshopper. The team is 1-4. If you wait until they're 2-8, you have to go 52-20 to win 54 games, which is probably the minimum needed in order to get a home seed in the Western Conference. Keep throwing away wins now and we'd have major regrets in May.
During a press conference later, O'Mara was asked if he had any advice for Zimmerman, and he answered, "Pay me."

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Post by Bklyn » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:25 pm

We should have gone with Adelman or BShaw. Brown was not the guy for this team. His rotations suck. His player usage sucks. He was over his head in the LA market. Nice guy. Wrong job.

Buss can't put his ego aside, but he should've been nicer to Phil. We need him now.
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Post by Johnette's Daddy » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:51 pm

Bklyn wrote:We should have gone with Adelman or BShaw. Brown was not the guy for this team. His rotations suck. His player usage sucks. He was over his head in the LA market. Nice guy. Wrong job.

Buss can't put his ego aside, but he should've been nicer to Phil. We need him now.
Vegas has D'Antoni as a 2-1 favorite to get the job, with Phil Jackson 2nd at 9-4.
During a press conference later, O'Mara was asked if he had any advice for Zimmerman, and he answered, "Pay me."

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Post by Bklyn » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:24 pm

The Lakers will have $30M in luxury taxes this year, $11M on the hook to Brown and then have to pay Phil his $15M to come back...AND eat crow in the process. I don't see it happening. I wish it would, but I don't see it happening.

My money is on Nate McMillan in the short term since Larry Brown is not an option. He would have been the perfect guy to rent for Kobe's and Nash's final years.
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Re: The Arrogant, Entitltled World Champion Los Angeles Lake

Post by Jungle Rat » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:27 pm

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Jungle Rat wrote:ESPN is covering this like the death of a sitting President.

Way to early to make this move. Ridiculous.
Wrong, Grasshopper. The team is 1-4. If you wait until they're 2-8, you have to go 52-20 to win 54 games, which is probably the minimum needed in order to get a home seed in the Western Conference. Keep throwing away wins now and we'd have major regrets in May.
I would have waited till January. Way to early. One game with his pre-season projected starters? This was a knee jerk reaction by the son of an owner who now has the whip. Oops he did it again.

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Post by Johnette's Daddy » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:33 pm

Bklyn wrote:The Lakers will have $30M in luxury taxes this year, $11M on the hook to Brown and then have to pay Phil his $15M to come back...AND eat crow in the process. I don't see it happening. I wish it would, but I don't see it happening.

My money is on Nate McMillan in the short term since Larry Brown is not an option. He would have been the perfect guy to rent for Kobe's and Nash's final years.
Lakers TV deal went from $35 mil in last year to $152 mil this year and it goes uo $7 - $10 million per year.

Paying two big money coaches is not ideal - but it won't be a deal breaker.

I think the guy is D'Antoni.
Jungle Rat wrote:I would have waited till January. Way to early. One game with his pre-season projected starters? This was a knee jerk reaction by the son of an owner who now has the whip. Oops he did it again.
25 more games between now and January 1. Say you go 10-15. Now you're 11-19 and need to go 43-9 to get to 54 wins . . . with a new coach and system.
During a press conference later, O'Mara was asked if he had any advice for Zimmerman, and he answered, "Pay me."

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Post by Jungle Rat » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:41 pm

All ya gotta do is make the playoffs.

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Post by Johnette's Daddy » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:45 pm

Jungle Rat wrote:All ya gotta do is make the playoffs.
The team with Home Court Advantage wins playoff series at a 78% clip.
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Post by Jungle Rat » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:49 pm

The Cards won the WS last year as the final wild card. Just make the playoffs. (which the Lakers would have done with or without Brown). Total panic move.

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Post by Simitar » Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:27 pm

Rambis is available...

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Post by sotola » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:25 am

wow, 5 games into the season and the coach is fired? Brown must have a way of refusing to defer to all stars to be let go so quickly

but I gotta be a little worried if I am a Lakers fan.... Howard does not look like Howard at all. I am not sure how serious his injury was but he looks like a shell of the player he was and it has nothing to do with the offense the team is running. He looks methodical, slow (relatively), and deliberate. Perhaps he is being cautious but he doesn't look good at all

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Post by Bklyn » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:30 am

He's not totally healthy. He just was cleared to run a couple of months ago. He doesn't have the lift he used to have and he's rotating a bit slow on defense. With all that said, he plays a VERY solid game. He's shooting over 60% and averaging something like 18 points, 9 rebs and a little less than 2 blocks a game. That's outpacing Bynum by something like 18 points, 9 rebs and a little less than 2 blocks a game.

When he gets back into game shape and gets 100% healthy, it's going to be scary. He's still a Top 3 center now (without me even thinking about it) and he's obviously no more than 70 - 75%.

Also, Mike Brown's biggest problems were his player usage and rotations. That sunk him. Bickerstaff kept Howard's minutes low because he did not need to play that long and he's still healing. He played Morris more at point than Blake, so he had the protection of the starters and did excellently. Brown is a good coach and prepares very well. But, the same problems he had in Cleveland with wringing his players dry in the regular season to the detriment of post season production were happening in LA. I liked him a lot, but it was time to go.
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Post by Chuck Nevitt » Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:37 am

The Lakers shot dreadfully against the Warriors and still handled them easily. I know, it's the Warriors, but the Lakes are a good rebounding team at least. Dwight and Gasol cleaned up a lot of garbage.

Morris might end up being a factor. They really need somebody who can just catch and hit those open looks.

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Post by Bklyn » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:05 am

LA goes with D'Antoni. There goes Kobe's next two seasons.
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Post by T Dot O Dot » Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:44 pm

D'Antoni?

What happened to the zen chief?
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Post by Bklyn » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:29 pm

Phil wanted too much.
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Post by Chuck Nevitt » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:15 am

I like it. Phil just looked bored during the tail end of his last tour.

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Re: The Arrogant, Entitltled World Champion Los Angeles Lake

Post by Bklyn » Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:07 am

The more I think about it & the more I learn about it, I hate it.
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