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Post by hedge » Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:47 am

"That is Atlas Shrugging."

When IB posts, that is everybody shrugging...
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Post by puterbac » Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:53 am

IBD EDITORIALS

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Tuesday Is The Last Chance To Stop ObamaCare

Posted 11/05/2012 06:41 PM ET

A "Healthcare Workers for Obamacare" sign hangs torn in a parking lot in New York City on Oct. 31, 2012. AP View Enlarged Image
Tuesday's decision is about many things, but none may be more important than stopping ObamaCare from wrecking the greatest health care system in the world.

Despite repeated promises that the more we knew about ObamaCare, the more we'd like it, the law has never been less popular. Just 38% now approve of it, down from 46% when it passed in March 2010, according to the latest Kaiser Family Foundation survey.

But unless voters defeat Obama on Tuesday, they'll never get rid of his disastrous "reform." Even before ObamaCare takes full effect, its damage is evident.

Insurance premiums, which Obama promised to slash $2,500 by the end of his first term, have climbed 14% since the law went into effect. Nearly six in 10 doctors say ObamaCare has made them less positive about the future of health care in America, and almost two-thirds say they'd retire today if they could, according to a Physicians Foundation survey.

Businesses are holding back on hiring, or are shifting workers to part time because of ObamaCare's looming coverage mandate. Darden Restaurants, for example, has stopped offering full-time schedules at several of its popular eateries "to help us address the cost implications of health care reform."

This is only one of the horrors ObamaCare will unleash if fully implemented in 2014. Among others:

• ObamaCare will force as many as 20 million workers into government-run insurance exchanges after their employers drop coverage, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

• More companies will follow Darden's example, refusing to schedule workers more than 30 hours wherever they can to avoid the coverage mandate.

• Insurance costs will explode. Even ObamaCare's fans admit that its benefit mandates, marketplace rules and bans on coverage caps will force premiums to skyrocket. Jonathan Gruber, who helped design ObamaCare, says the law will add 30% to premiums in the individual market in the states he's studied.

• Doctor shortages will reach 90,000 in about a decade, according to the Association of American Medical Colleges.

• Seniors will find it increasingly difficult to get treatments, as ObamaCare's deep Medicare payment cuts cause one in six hospitals to become unprofitable and still more doctors to refuse to see Medicare patients.

• Even when a patient does get to see a doctor, ObamaCare will intrude, using the law's "Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Institute" to create top-down rules for what doctors can prescribe for any given ailment.

• ObamaCare's vast new taxes — including a crippling $20 billion surtax on the medical device industry and a $123 billion surtax on investors — will slow down medical innovation.

• And when these and dozens of other new taxes fail to cover ObamaCare's massive 10-year $1.76 trillion price tag, everyone will suffer a bigger tax bite.

Not to mention the fact that ObamaCare will, for the first time in our nation's history, force people to buy a government-approved product, setting a frightening new precedent for federal intrusiveness.

One of the few promises Obama has made in his re-election campaign is that he will protect ObamaCare no matter what in a second term. And should that happen, ObamaCare will be too embedded in the political landscape to get uprooted, no matter who's elected in 2016.

Voters have only one chance to prevent Obama from keeping that promise. They better not blow it.

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Post by hedge » Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:01 am

"The employees deserve what their work is worth, nothing more. No different than the kid that mows the lawn deserves what the market is for mowing the lawn. As an employee you deserve the worth of your work."

Then why were you complaining about making $6 an hour? Clearly you were being vastly overpaid...
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Post by puterbac » Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:19 am

Very good ad....

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Post by Jungle Rat » Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:50 am

Time to head out and vote for the President of Ohio.

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Post by Toemeesleather » Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:57 am

From USN&WR.....


As Americans head to the polls, they face a disastrous new normal: For the first time, the U.S. economy has shifted in the direction of a part-time, low-wage workforce.

The number of Americans now working part time has soared to 8.3 million—up 313,000 in the past two months alone. With economic growth declining or stagnant for quarter after quarter, many companies feel it is too risky to take on people full time.

This has created an army of "underutilized labor." America's narrow unemployment rate is 7.9%, but it is 14.6% when accounting for involuntary part-time workers. The number of Americans working full time has declined by 5.9 million since September 2007, while the number working part time has jumped by 2.6 million.
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Post by Owlman » Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:09 am

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezr ... eeding-up/
"U.S. spending on health insurance grew at an accelerated rate in 2011, breaking a two-year trend of smaller cost increases. The culprit, a new study suggests, is not Americans seeking more treatment but rather rapid growth in the price of medical care."

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/1 ... 72027.html
"Health insurance costs workers almost twice what it did in 2002 even though premiums have grown more slowly since 2007, according to a new survey of more than 2,000 employers.

The average total cost of a family health insurance plan reached $15,745 this year, an increase of 4 percent since 2011, report the Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation of Menlo Park, Calif. and the Chicago-based Health Research and Educational Trust. Workers paid an average of $4,316 for those plans with their employers paying the rest, according to the survey, which was conducted between January and May. In 2002, job-based family coverage cost $8,003."
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Post by puterbac » Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:10 am

And GOP election watchers ordered back in by judge in PA.

Now sherrif's willbe present now.

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Post by puterbac » Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:19 am

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Post by puterbac » Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:26 am

Philly GOP: Poll inspectors being ousted for Dems

November 6, 2012 | 8:31 am
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Court-appointed Republican poll inspectors are being forcibly removed from voting stations in some Philadelphia wards and replaced in some cases by Democratic inspectors and even members of the Black Panthers, according to GOP officials.

Secrets just received this memo from GOP officials:

The Philadelphia GOP is reporting that court appointed Minority (read GOP) Inspectors are being thrown out of polling locations in several Wards.

These Inspectors are election officials - again, court appointed -- and are reportedly being thrown out by the Head Judges of Elections (these Judges are elected Democrats) and being replaced by Democrats.

This has happened at the following locations:

Ward 32, Div 13

Ward 43, Div 14

Ward 56, Div 1

Ward 56, Div 22

Ward 32, Div 28

Ward 32, Div 28

Ward 12, Div 17

Ward 39, Div 1

Ward 24, Div 9

Ward 18, Div 25

Ward 43, Div 14

Ward 29, Div 18

Ward 65, Div 19

Ward 20, Div 1

Ward 6, Div 11

Another official told Secrets: "one of our female inspectors was physically thrown out."

Presidential candidate Mitt Romney decided at the last minute to make stops in Pennsylvania, believing that the race there was close enough that he could win.

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Post by puterbac » Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:31 am

Judge issuing order to reinstate booted Philadelphia election officials, Republicans say

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11 ... z2BSONhA00

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Post by bluetick » Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:34 am

"Let me tell you how I will create 12 million jobs when President Obama couldn't. First, my energy independence policy means more than 3 million new jobs, many of them in manufacturing. My tax reform plan to lower rates for the middle class and for small business creates 7 million more. And expanding trade, cracking down on China and improving job training takes us to over 12 million new jobs." -- Mitt Romney, "in his own words," in a campaign television ad

Pants on fire, 4 pinocchios, top 'o the bs meter, etc etc

Still. If you say it over and over... and over and over...and NEVER give any specifics...
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Post by bluetick » Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:36 am

Wait - there was ONE specific - the Canadian pipeline will create a couple hundred thousand jobs.

Of course, that project is coming regardless of who wins today.
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Post by puterbac » Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:43 am

bluetick wrote:"Let me tell you how I will create 12 million jobs when President Obama couldn't. First, my energy independence policy means more than 3 million new jobs, many of them in manufacturing. My tax reform plan to lower rates for the middle class and for small business creates 7 million more. And expanding trade, cracking down on China and improving job training takes us to over 12 million new jobs." -- Mitt Romney, "in his own words," in a campaign television ad

Pants on fire, 4 pinocchios, top 'o the bs meter, etc etc

Still. If you say it over and over... and over and over...and NEVER give any specifics...
Lordy. It is so simple.

You remove uncertainty in tax code and in regulations as well as with opramacare so that people know what their costs are going to be more than a 3 months in the future.

You make govt the referee it should be and not the overlord it has become. Govt should simply police the game for people breaking the rules and not picking winners and losers. Combine that with an all of the above energy policy and you have the catalyst for economic growth.

When you have growth you have more people working and more people paying taxes and hence more money to the treasury.

Mitt understands govt does not create jobs. Oprama doesn't or doesn't care. Govt only takes from peter to pay Paul. It doesn't create wealth. Mitt understands that govt can only help set the proper conditions that allow for growth and then step back, be the ref, and let the game unfold.

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Post by hedge » Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:44 am

"Secrets just received this memo from GOP officials"

LMAO at "Secrets"...
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Post by hedge » Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:45 am

"All of this leaves Mr. Romney drawing to an inside straight. I hope you’ll excuse the cliché, but it’s appropriate here: in poker, making an inside straight requires you to catch one of 4 cards out of 48 remaining in the deck, the chances of which are about 8 percent. Those are now about Mr. Romney’s chances of winning the Electoral College, according to the FiveThirtyEight forecast.

As any poker player knows, those 8 percent chances do come up once in a while. If it happens this year, then a lot of polling firms will have to re-examine their assumptions — and we will have to re-examine ours about how trustworthy the polls are. But the odds are that Mr. Obama will win another term."

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Post by Jungle Rat » Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:48 pm

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Post by puterbac » Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:58 pm

Heh...I assume the news tsunami is rising and will begin breaking about 4-5 pm.

Not Much being updated anywhere right now.

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Post by puterbac » Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:12 pm

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11 ... officials/

Lord...oprama mural inside the polling location. Of course violates state law.

But it's philly. How many precincts will have +100 percent turnout this year?

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Post by puterbac » Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:23 pm

PICKET: GOP - Poll watcher in Detroit threatened with gun, 911 call rejected - http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/wat ... d-gun-911/

Obama Poster Hanging in Florida Polling Station - http://mrctv.org/blog/obama-poster-hang ... ng-station


Election Judge Wears Obama Cap While Checking in Voters in Obama's Chicago Ward - http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/ele ... 61843.html

"This photo, taken by a voter this morning at the Ward 4, Precinct 37 polling place (1212 South Plymouth Court, Chicago), shows an election judge checking in voters while wearing an Obama hat," a source writes. "Chicago's 4th ward is home to President Barack Obama."

The voter who took the photo says: "Woman in front of me also given an extra ballot."

And the voter adds that she has in the past been an election observer abroad. "I had greater confidence votes mattered [in a foreign election in a transitioning country] than I did about my own vote today," says the voter.

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