Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

[Professor Tiger]

"I don't think Romney is doomed yet. Europe could collapse at any moment, and drag us into another recession. That could change everything."

Great news!

That's what the Romney camp is reduced to.

Since Mitt Farquahr doesn't seem to want to respond to the charge of murdering somebody's wife, he should pick Christie as VP. Christie would naturally and instinctively get all Lou Cabrazzi on the Obama campaign. It would be southside Chicago vs. north Jersey. Mitt wouldn't have to get his ascot dirty.

[Jungle Rat]

Went through my stack of UBS statements today. Usually I just throw them in a file cabinet. From Dec 07 - Dec 08 I lost 23% on average. I've finally earned that 23% back after almost 5 years. I thought it would take at least 10 to fix Bushs fuck ups.

[Big Orange Junky]

"I don't think Romney is doomed yet. Europe could collapse at any moment, and drag us into another recession. That could change everything."

Great news!

No he is doomed. Oprama gets no blame for the pice of crap that he calls the economy because the 9-1 media have been giving him free blame Bush campaign ads since he was elected. They allow him to just blatantly lie with no recourse.

Most people are not intelligent enough not to fall right in line with what they are told to do by the MSM. That's why so much is spent on advertising, and why having the 9-1 is such a huge, huge advantage. Doesn't matter if you are the worst president in US history, the MSM can calm that, hilight the positives and swing alot of votes.

The economy could crash (heck look at it now, unemployment still over 8%) and Oprama could comitt murder on the White House steps and he would still win in a landslide because by the second news cycle there would be saturating coverage of his side of the story and why that person just deserved to die. Heck that person may have even been against gay marriage.

[Jungle Rat]

24 hours later....finally a post. Romney fans are beaten. Worn down.

It been a long hot summer. Grab some water and sit down.

[Big Orange Junky]

As for the gun control crap, the shooter in Colorado didn't have an assault weapon. He had a semi auto, that is not an assault weapon. That 100 round clip is what got him, it jammed the gun.

The shotgun likely did the most but I don't know that for sure. I know he jammed the rifle.


The gun control nuts make outrageous claims that are patently false.

Claim 14000 “children” since 2001
In reality this includes gang violence, up to age 21, and suicide
Number of actual children (12 or younger) is 233 per year or 892 since 2001


Here are the numbers on gun deaths from the CDC

30,896 in 2006 (10.34 per 100,000)
642 Unintentional (0.21)
12,791 homicide (4.28)
360 Legal Intervention (0.12)
16,833 Suicide (5.65)
217 twelve and under

Compared to other modalities


45,509 (15.23) MVC
More people die from suffocation per year than are murdered with guns 14,179 (4.75)vs 12,791
More children died in MVC’s (1,673 children 12 and under) and drowning (741) compared to 217 gun deaths

Lets ban bath tubs and motor vehicles "for the children".

link to the CDC info

http://webapp.cdc.gov/cgi-bin/broker.exe

[Jungle Rat]

So BOJ defends the Dark Knight Shooter? How sick is that?

[Big Orange Junky]

So BOJ defends the Dark Knight Shooter? How sick is that?

Yeah, that's what I was doing all right. Anybody that believes in the freedom to keep and bear arms defends him riiiighhhgt.

[Professor Tiger]

It seems like only yesterday that PNNery was brimming with confidence about the presidential election. It pains me to see them reduced to this.

C'mon guys! Buck up! Europe and China may still collapse. Romney may yet grow a pair. Hope springs eternal.

[Professor Tiger]

I agree that the MSM is hopelessly in the tank for the Democrats. But it's always been that way. If liberal media bias was as insurmountable as BOJ and others think, a Republican would never be elected president. But in fact, a lot of Republicans have been elected president - more, in fact, than Democrats in my lifetime.

The lesson to be learned is, if the Republicans are going up against a liberal candidate like Obama, they need to counter a liberal with a conservative. Every time the Republicans run a convincing conservative like a Reagan or a W, they win. Conversely, every time the R's run a mushy moderate like a Romney, or a McCain, or a Dole, or a Bush Sr. without Reagan's coattails, they lose.

Equally important, when Republicans get conservatives elected, they need to actually govern like conservatives, unlike the big spending, big borrowing, and utopian W.

Finally, the conservatives in the Republican party must realize that their party is largely run by wealthy country club corporatists. These people are not conservative, and don't mind losing all that much. They are largely responsible for the long string of mushy moderate nominees that keep losing over and over again.

As soon as the R's figure out these basic and simple truths, and start nominating conservatives, and start rejecting the Goldman Sachs Republicans, they'll start winning again. Until then, they won't.

[innocentbystander]

It seems like only yesterday that PNNery was brimming with confidence about the presidential election. It pains me to see them reduced to this.

C'mon guys! Buck up! Europe and China may still collapse. Romney may yet grow a pair. Hope springs eternal.

We are going to hear his running mate in less than 10 hours. He'll annouce from Virginia at 8:45 AM EST and introduce....

....wait for it....

I'm calling it, Chris Christie.

[innocentbystander]

Word around the web, its Paul Ryan

[sardis]

Your Christie prediction lasted a good hour...

[bluetick]

We are going to hear his running mate in less than 10 hours. He'll annouce from Virginia at 8:45 AM EST and introduce....

....wait for it....

I'm calling it, Chris Christie.

Big miss. Wide of the mark. Huge miscalculation.

donut make that mistake again

[Professor Tiger]

An outstanding choice, IMHO. Ryan is the best spokesman for fiscal sanity the Republicans have. With this pick, I may vote for Thurston Howell III after all.

Of course, the attack ads/msm hit pieces have probably already started, accusing Ryan of pedophilia, satanism and cannibalism.

[Professor Tiger]

Has anybody seen Paul Ryan in the same room at the same time as Gabe from "The Office"?

[sardis]

I agree that the MSM is hopelessly in the tank for the Democrats. But it's always been that way. If liberal media bias was as insurmountable as BOJ and others think, a Republican would never be elected president. But in fact, a lot of Republicans have been elected president - more, in fact, than Democrats in my lifetime.

The lesson to be learned is, if the Republicans are going up against a liberal candidate like Obama, they need to counter a liberal with a conservative. Every time the Republicans run a convincing conservative like a Reagan or a W, they win. Conversely, every time the R's run a mushy moderate like a Romney, or a McCain, or a Dole, or a Bush Sr. without Reagan's coattails, they lose.

Equally important, when Republicans get conservatives elected, they need to actually govern like conservatives, unlike the big spending, big borrowing, and utopian W.

Finally, the conservatives in the Republican party must realize that their party is largely run by wealthy country club corporatists. These people are not conservative, and don't mind losing all that much. They are largely responsible for the long string of mushy moderate nominees that keep losing over and over again.

As soon as the R's figure out these basic and simple truths, and start nominating conservatives, and start rejecting the Goldman Sachs Republicans, they'll start winning again. Until then, they won't.

Keep telling yourself that archaic delusional theory. An uber conservative can't win any more in this country. It is clear, by any reasonable sane analysis, that if this country has any chance of thwarting an European fate is if Mitt is elected instead of Oprama; or if the R's can get control of the Senate and HR. Problem is, Mitt will not win. Not because he is a bad candidate, but because America has turned the corner to where 60% of the population depend on the other 40%. Most Americans are like the Greeks, deep in debt and expect the rest to bail them out without any shame at all at the fact they continue to hold out their hand.

[bluetick]

With this pick, I may vote for Thurston Howell III after all.

Heh. Six months of listening to prof lambast the former Mass. governor as the ultimate flip-flopper.

Irony, thy name is pnn.

[sardis]

Has anybody seen Paul Ryan in the same room at the same time as Gabe from "The Office"?

I was thinking more like Eddie Munster.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Romney welcomes the "next President of the United States" on stage

http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-hab ... ml?hp=t3_7

[Professor Tiger]

Heh. Now that you mention it...

Keep telling yourself that archaic delusional theory. An uber conservative can't win any more in this country.

I'm not sure what you would call an "uber conservative." But a convincing conservative - W - ran as a "compassionate conservative," was reelected, and was sitting in the oval office a mere four years ago. Hardy long enough to be "archaic."

Problem is, Mitt will not win. Not because he is a bad candidate, but because America has turned the corner to where 60% of the population depend on the other 40%.

So you really think America suddenly transformed into Greece in 3.5 years? We went from being the country of Davy Crockett and John Wayne to being a nation of Lady Gaga and Charlie Sheen? I don't think we have had a sudden, Damascus Road-like mass conversion to liberalism.

It's much easier for me to believe that Mitt is a bad candidate. If sales are disappointing, don't whine about the dumb customer, and don't blame the product. Get better salesmen.