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Post by sardis » Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:10 am

Bklyn wrote:Speaking of freedom...
But this still doesn’t fully capture Kaspersky’s influence. Back in 2010, a researcher now working for Kaspersky discovered Stuxnet, the US-Israeli worm that wrecked nearly a thousand Iranian centrifuges and became the world’s first openly acknowledged cyberweapon. In May of this year, Kaspersky’s elite antihackers exposed a second weaponized computer program, which they dubbed Flame. It was subsequently revealed to be another US-Israeli operation aimed at Iran. In other words, Kaspersky Lab isn’t just an antivirus company; it’s also a leader in uncovering cyber-espionage.

Kaspersky has 300 million customers. His geek squad uncovers US cyberweapons. And he has deep ties to the KGB’s successors in Moscow.Serving at the pinnacle of such an organization would be a remarkably powerful position for any man. But Kaspersky’s rise is particularly notable—and to some, downright troubling—given his KGB-sponsored training, his tenure as a Soviet intelligence officer, his alliance with Vladimir Putin’s regime, and his deep and ongoing relationship with Russia’s Federal Security Service, or FSB.

What is mentioned is Kaspersky’s vision for the future of Internet security—which by Western standards can seem extreme. It includes requiring strictly monitored digital passports for some online activities and enabling government regulation of social networks to thwart protest movements. “It’s too much freedom there,” Kaspersky says, referring to sites like Facebook. “Freedom is good. But the bad guys—they can abuse this freedom to manipulate public opinion.”
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Post by eCat » Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:48 am

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eCat wrote:its a chicken or an egg thing.

You have a large number of criminals with easy access to guns. You can look at ways to limit access to guns or you can create a an environment where guns aren't an issue.

I was thinking about this earlier where I used the example of gun control in the old west. Carrying a gun was a necessity for these people but when they went into the city limits they willingly handed them over to the local authority. I would assume they did this because they felt safe. Certainly if there was a chance of violence occurring within the city limits those laws would not stand, especially with just a local sheriff and maybe 1 or 2 deputies.

I guess my point is the argument telling law abiding citizens they need to have more hurdles or obstacles to gun ownership in an effort to curb the total number of guns or reduce the guns falling into criminals hands isn't going to hold up if there is a legitimate threat of gun violence already established. You're going to have to create an environment where the average citizen thinks they can go thru life without a gun for self defense.

The first step would be to greatly reduce the threat of gun violence (and that isn't by taking away or limiting the availability of guns by law abiding citizens). To me, it clearly falls on doing whatever is necessary to take the guns out criminals hands.

Similar to the argument about immigration. Deporting illegal aliens serves no purpose if our borders are not secure. First secure the borders so that we've effectively eliminated illegal immigration, then we can effectively talk about immigration reform in this country.

I don't own a gun because I feel safe at my home and at work. I also gave up hunting years ago.

I help at a inner city ministry on Saturdays through my church. If I had to live in some of those neighborhoods, I'd definitely find a way to get a gun, legally or illegally. Police can not give these folks adequate protection whether the criminals in the neighborhood have guns or not. I don't think it is fair to deny these folks the opportunity o protect themselves.
I don't know how realistic it is to think that increasing police presence can but I think we are saying the same thing. If the public at large feels they need a gun for protection, then the approach is not creating new ways to keep them from guns.

While I own many guns, all of them are in a safe and are not loaded. I do not keep a loaded gun in my house because I feel the likelihood of some harm coming from that gun is greater than any threat externally I may face.
If I did live in one of those 68 counties and potentially interacted with people that have had felony convictions, I would be armed.
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Post by Jungle Rat » Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:08 am

Hi there

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Post by hedge » Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:53 am

"I think you're on drugs. Wherever you got that quote, I doubt it was directed at me."

Correct on both counts, but I didn't let that stop me from unfairly using you as a representative of Alabama in order to sass the populace of that sorry state (geographical state, state of affairs, state of minds, what have ye)....
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Post by Jungle Rat » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:10 am

So I guess when eCat confronts me & Hedge he will be packing because we are convicted felons. We are dangerous people! Hide the kids because he has no idea what we are capable of.

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Post by eCat » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:34 am

Jungle Rat wrote:So I guess when eCat confronts me & Hedge he will be packing because we are convicted felons. We are dangerous people! Hide the kids because he has no idea what we are capable of.

you don't think I've wanted to shoot you?
I like the stinky pinky but only up to the first knuckle, I do not want a GD thumb up there--I've told her multiple times and I always catch her when she tries to pull a fast one---it's my butthole for Chrissakes I'm gonna know--so cut out the BS.

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Post by Jungle Rat » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:38 am

Oh I know you have. Many times. That's what makes it fun.

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Post by Jungle Rat » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:39 am

But a pistol will do. An AK will only make my viewing unviewable.

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Post by hedge » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:59 am

I've never owned a gun and never felt the desire or need to. I don't feel threatened at all and never have, which includes living in SF, DC and NYC, and certainly not in the best parts of town. Granted, I wasn't living in the hood, either, but I wasn't living in any gated communities. At the same time, one of my best friends was killed by some dude with a gun 25 years ago, he was 24 years old and the dude also killed another worker after he killed my friend. (As a side note, they found the guy floating in an old rock quarry outside of town, the sons of the other guy he killed knew where he lived, but nobody was ever charged with anything and I think it got filed as an accidental drowning). Anyway, even given all those things, I still think people should have the right to own guns...
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Post by aTm » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:30 pm

Convicted felons should be barred from using the internet.
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Post by 10ac » Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:35 pm

concur
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Post by Jungle Rat » Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:37 pm

aTm wrote:Convicted felons should be barred from using the internet.
Then you would have no friends

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Post by sardis » Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:10 am

Talk about a picture that rips your heart out. From a funeral of one of the theatre victims.

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Post by Jungle Rat » Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:32 am

Makes me want to hug my kids tighter than ever.

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Post by BigRedMan » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:30 pm

Is there any reason that dude is still breathing?
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Post by Gator by God's Grace » Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:02 pm

Romney's idiotic criticism of the Brit olympics suggests that he does not fully appreciate our nation's Anglo-Saxon heritage.

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Post by Bklyn » Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:15 pm

He's been an overseas disaster, to date. I was not expecting this level of slapstick from him.

(glad you pulled out the Anglo-Saxon line. He got away with that shit so much...he's lucky he didn't get pounded relentless for it, but I guess his goofy 10 Dowling actions overshadowed it)
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Post by hedge » Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:39 pm

I think Romney would be an OK president, but I hate the idea of another 4 years of a bumbling gaffe machine so soon after Bush's 8 year tenure in that role...
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Post by eCat » Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:47 pm

hedge wrote:I think Romney would be an OK president, but I hate the idea of another 4 years of a bumbling gaffe machine so soon after Bush's 8 year tenure in that role...
I don't think the debates will be pretty. He's going to need to be about 11 points ahead in the polls by then
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Post by Bklyn » Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:23 pm

I think Romney will be a solid President if he is lying about the things I believe he's lying about on the stump. I think he and Obama are closer in philosophy than people who only see (R) and (D) realize.
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