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[bluetick]

Confronting a $45 million budget shortfall, San Bernardino is facing insolvancy because of accounting errors, deficit spending, pension and debt costs, and a lack of revenue growth, according to a June 26 budget analysis posted on the city's website.

oprama!

[Professor Tiger]

Don't worry. That multi-billion dollar high speed rail system they just bought will solve all their fiscal problems.

[bluetick]

Citigroup Ranks Top 10 Best U.S. Cities for Business - March 2012

http://www.advisorone.com/2012/03/13/to ... ss?page=11

5. San Fransisco
6. Los Angeles

oprama!

[Toemeesleather]

Look who's #40....


http://www.cnbc.com/id/46413845



Of course, seeing who is #41 in education explains alot about Tick.

[Toemeesleather]

#48 in cost......SUSTAINABLE!!!!



http://www.cnbc.com/id/46413849/

[Toemeesleather]

Governor Moonbeam speaks...

[Professor Tiger]

http://www.cnbc.com/id/46413845

Usually in such rankings, Alabama is #49 and Mississippi is #50.

Mississippi exists so that Alabamians have SOMEBODY to look down on.

[bluetick]

#2 Cost of Living - Tennessee

As I've stated before, we're overloaded out Tellico way with yankee ex-pats and FL halfbacks. Low property taxes and no state income tax...a retired autoworkers wet dream.

"Oh hey dere pallie...youse didn't see my yellow Pinnacle by chance...oh, dere it is....thinks a lot."

[Toemeesleather]

...and there's one too many Obammer voters in Farragut..

[Jungle Rat]

BRING BACK CLINTON!!!!!

[Professor Tiger]

Here's another ranking of states for business according to chiefexecutive.net:

http://chiefexecutive.net/best-worst-st ... iness-2012

Even Alabama and Mississippi trounce #50 California.

California’s enduring place of perpetual decline continues in this year’s ranking. Once the most attractive business environment, the Golden State appears to slip deeper into the ninth circle of business hell. The economy, which used to outperform the rest of the country, now substantially underperforms. And its status as the most ruinously contentious place to operate remains undisturbed in eight years. Its unemployment rate, at 10.9 percent, is higher than every other state except Nevada and Rhode Island. With 12 percent of America’s population, California has one-third of the nation’s welfare recipients. Each year, the evidence that businesses are leaving California or avoid locating there because of the high cost of doing business due to excessive state taxes and stringent regulations, grows. (See “Eastward Ho!”) According to Spectrum Location Solutions, 254 California companies moved some or all of their work and jobs out of state in 2011, an increase of 26 percent over the previous year and five times as many as in 2009.

BTW, I drove past that nice big Mercedes plant near Tuscaloosa yesterday.

[Jungle Rat]

I love Tennessee

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[billy bob bocephus]

here ya go tick ... have at it...


July 11, 2012
Two Millennia of Global Cooling?
Andrew Bostom


Notwithstanding the latest hysterical claims from the sadly politicized climatescientologists of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), insisting 2011 was somehow "a year of extreme weather," serious investigators at the Johannes Gutenberg University Mainz have just published a sobering analysis in Nature Climate Change which reconstructs 2000 years of climate within northern Europe.

Utilizing tree-ring density measurements from sub-fossil pine trees in northern Scandinavia, the investigators created a sequence dating back to 138 BC. The density measurements are closely correlated with the summer temperatures in a targeted region on the edge of the Nordic taiga, enabling them to create a temperature reconstruction of unprecedented quality. Their high-resolution representation confirmed temperature patterns in the Roman and Medieval Warm periods, but also demonstrated the cold phases that occurred during the Migration Period and the later Little Ice Age. (See image, below)




In addition to depicting these cold and warm phases which were not influenced at all by anthropogenic warming, but rather "by solar output and (grouped) volcanic activity changes" - the new climate reconstruction curve also reveals a striking if unexpected phenomenon. Professor Dr. Jan Esper of the investigative team provided this apt summary assessment of the main findings:


We found that previous estimates of historical temperatures during the Roman era and the Middle Ages were too low. Such
findings are signifcant with regard to climate policy, as they will influence the way today's climate changes are seen in context of historical warm periods.

[Professor Tiger]

The offending researchers at Johannes Gutenberg University Mainz will be placed in the sustainably green iron maiden for their heresy.

[Toemeesleather]

[quote="billy bob bocephus"]here ya go tick ... have at it...


July 11, 2012
Two Millennia of Global Cooling?
Andrew Bostom


Notwithstanding the latest hysterical claims from the sadly politicized climatescientologists of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), insisting 2011 was somehow "a year of extreme weather," serious investigators at the Johannes Gutenberg University Mainz have just published a sobering analysis in Nature Climate Change which reconstructs 2000 years of climate within northern Europe.

Utilizing tree-ring density measurements from sub-fossil pine trees in northern Scandinavia, the investigators created a sequence dating back to 138 BC. The density measurements are closely correlated with the summer temperatures in a targeted region on the edge of the Nordic taiga, enabling them to create a temperature reconstruction of unprecedented quality. Their high-resolution representation confirmed temperature patterns in the Roman and Medieval Warm periods, but also demonstrated the cold phases that occurred during the Migration Period and the later Little Ice Age. (See image, below)




In addition to depicting these cold and warm phases which were not influenced at all by anthropogenic warming, but rather "by solar output and (grouped) volcanic activity changes" - the new climate reconstruction curve also reveals a striking if unexpected phenomenon. Professor Dr. Jan Esper of the investigative team provided this apt summary assessment of the main findings:




2000 years of empircal data vs. warmest in RECORDED HISTORY (<200years)....pretty thin ice yer on there, BBB.

[Op Ed]

Ed,

Please define (exactly) what "wealthy" is and then (for bonus points) define "the rest of us."

plsthx

Think of a pareto chart, showing wealth by percentage of society. Where you draw the line is not critical.

it is critical to me because I need to know what wealthy means to you. you were the one who made the original remark. i am just taking this to the logical conclusion.

WTF... "critical to you"

Wealth is like quality, it is had by all things to certain degrees. Some people interpret quality differently than others, emphasizing certain characteristics. The same with wealth.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I do not have fixed and firm definition. But I will leave you with this... ill-gotten and excessive wealth is like porn, you know it when you see it.

[10ac]

This was the coldest late June and early July that I can remember.

[Professor Tiger]

Wealth is like quality, it is had by all things to certain degrees. Some people interpret quality differently than others, emphasizing certain characteristics. The same with wealth.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I do not have fixed and firm definition. But I will leave you with this... ill-gotten and excessive wealth is like porn, you know it when you see it.

Well, I'd like to take advantage of the leeway you have courteously provided and officially declare "wealthy" as a net worth of $500 million. Furthermore, all wealth accrued in Hollywood is, by definition, ill-gotten and excessive, and should be taxed at 100%. Ditto for all wealth inherited by the Kennedy's and FDR.

No need to thank me.

[Big Orange Junky]

Ummm state vs Federal there bud. Huge difference. It's socialist.

GM became Gubment Motors with the bailout. It's socialist.

The UN Gun treaty is socialist, he supports it and is actually pushing to ratify it. It's socialist.

He actually made it easier and intentionally increased the roles of food stamps etc. Socialist.

He is openly for wealth redistribution, has openly stated the tax code should be for punnishing people and redistribution of wealth instead of just to collect needed funds. Socialist.

It's easy to keep going, but there is no way anyone can seriously deny he is a socialist.

Never mind, I can have a better discussion with the wall.

You sir, are an idiot beyond reasoning with.

LMBOMA, yes because stating the tax code should be used to punnish people and to redistribute wealth even if it isn't needed to run the gubment isn't socialist at all. I mean everybody knows its.....um.....welll.....um....socialist?

[Professor Tiger]

Point of order: when Op Ed says "socialist," he is referring to people like Ho Chi Minh and Fidel Castro. By that definition, he is being completely truthful when he says Obama is not a socialist. There's a tear in Op Ed's eye when he says that because he wishes we did have a Ho Chi Minh or a Fidel Castro running the country.

When PNNery says "socialist," they mean a modern European-type socialist, like Schroeder in Germany or Hollande in France. Their form of socialism doesn't quite include concentration camps or nationalization of entire industries, like Op Ed dreams of. But they do believe in confiscatory taxation of the rich, true government control of most industries, forthright redistribution of wealth to finance a luxuriant welfare state, and environmental wackoism.

I think Obama and the dem's absolutely believe in socialism thus defined, and are certainly trying their best to pull the country in that direction. But they are frustrated that so many American voters pause at bringing a modern European socialist workers' paradise over here.