Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

[sardis]

According to the chart he also could claim the highest ever approval at one point as well as one of the lowest...

He was also higher than Oprama after three years...

[Toemeesleather]

Barrack will start to drop like rock by mid-'13 when Romney gets the ox out of the ditch.

[bluetick]

52 months of continuous economic growth > 52 polls based largely on subjective criteria.

96 month term

Bush tax cuts did NOT create economic growth - yearly growth averaged 2.3% from '01-'07, at which point the country fell into the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression.

Bush tax cuts did NOT creat jobs; from 2001 - 2007 jobs grew at 4.8% percent (compared to Clinton's 16.2%); from '07 to '09 job loses totaled 7.8 million

Bush tax cuts did NOT produce an increase in real income, real income for the median American household went from $51,356 in 2001 to $52,163 six years later - in increase of 1.6 percent. Under Clinton, household income went from $45,839 in '93 to $52,587 in '99 - an increase of 14.7 percent.

Whatever period of relative prosperity Bush had early on, spurred by the momentum of the Clinton budget surpluses, he squandered with the massive tax cuts combined with his post-9/11 security spending (including the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan) and the Medicare prescription-drug bill.

[bluetick]

According to the chart he also could claim the highest ever approval at one point as well as one of the lowest...

LMMFAO

oh man...thanks

[BigRedMan]

Clinton has the Internet Boom to thank for a lot of his successes.

Just saying.....

[sardis]

According to the chart he also could claim the highest ever approval at one point as well as one of the lowest...

LMMFAO

oh man...thanks

You posted the link to the chart, not me.

[Jungle Rat]

Clinton has the Internet Boom to thank for a lot of his successes.

Just saying.....

So do I. Then again he did choose the guy who invented the internet as his VP so he knew in advance the boom that was coming.

[Toemeesleather]

Breaking News!!!!


Obama visits Atlanta, blames Bush.



Now THAT'S Imagination

[Professor Tiger]

...and of course, slick willie did absolutly nothing about the building snowball that was Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Somewhere between slick willie and the financial meltdown of 2008, I believe there was a Republican president for 8 years and Republican majorities in both houses for 6 years. They did nothing about that snowball either. They absolutely, totally, completely and utterly failed to use their complete control of the US government to regulate Fannie and Freddie, and generally ensure a sane banking system. This recession is their fault.

Bush's handling of the war in Iraq was also a breathtaking essay in incompetence. He was wrong about their WMD. His administration never spent five minutes thinking about what they would do with Iraq after we conquered it. He spent the next year pretending everything was just peachy keen when the whole country descended into chaos.

Throw in his deficits (the second worst in US history), the federal response to Katrina, the Dubai ports deal, Harriet Myers scotus nomination, and you have a completely failed presidency.

With his deficits and war on the Catholic Church, Obama might still be worse. We'll see in his second term.

[Jungle Rat]

Then again we should probably blame Cheney since he was really in charge. Bush was just his Muppet.

[billy bob bocephus]

what's your guess on who is obama's puppetmaster?

[10ac]

Big oil?

[billy bob bocephus]

Saudi?

[Professor Tiger]

NARAL, GLAAD, NAACP, AFLCIO.

[Big Orange Junky]

Anyone that blames Bush for the Katrina response is either ignorant of how things are supposed to go or are intentionally lying in order to make him worse than he was.

Katrina is 100% on the Louisianna government, both state and the county/city.

I knew years before Katrina that every city must be able to take care of themselves for a minimum of 72 hours. 72 hours is the time every county and city in the US was aware it would take before any federal response to a disaster would occur. That was the law of the land, the actual law.

The "blame" for Katrina was intentionally moved from the real guilty parties to the president by the 9. It was a planned and coordinated effort.

[Professor Tiger]

"You're doing a heckuva job, Browny" = incompetent.

But yes, Nagin and Blanco were both also incompetent. It was a troika of incompetence. A true team effort.

[Jungle Rat]

BOJ, pfft.

What politician do you compare to a Muppet?

[Professor Tiger]

72 hours is the time every county and city in the US was aware it would take before any federal response to a disaster would occur. That was the law of the land, the actual law.

From "Timeline of Hurricane Katrina" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_o ... ne_Katrina

Monday, August 29, 2005

At 5:10 AM CDT (1010 UTC), Hurricane Katrina made its second landfall as a strong Category 3 hurricane near Buras-Triumph, Louisiana, with sustained winds of more than 125 mph (205 km/h), although Category 4 winds may have briefly affected the area.[13] Katrina also made landfall in St. Bernard parish and St. Tammany parish as a Category 3 hurricane for a total of three landfalls in Louisiana.

Thursday, September 1, 2005

Meanwhile, conditions at the Superdome, as well as the Ernest N. Morial Convention Center, continued to deteriorate. Food and potable water were unavailable, with mostly false reports and rumors of rescuers coming under fire from people seeking to hijack supplies or transportation, and few buses were arriving to evacuate the survivors. About 5,000 refugees made it by bus to Reliant Astrodome, yet there were only about 2,000 cots available.[36] Secretary Chertoff is criticized by NPR's Robert Siegel during an interview on All Things Considered, as he had no knowledge of the approximately 2,000 survivors at the Convention Center with no food or water. He said, "I have not heard a report of thousands of people in the Convention Center who don't have food and water."[37] FEMA Director Brown said that FEMA only became aware of crisis at the Convention Center on this date, yet later claims to have known about it 24 hours earlier.

Friday, September 9, 2005

Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) Director Michael Brown was removed from directing Hurricane Katrina relief efforts in New Orleans by Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff.

Monday, September 12, 2005

Michael D. Brown resigned as Director of FEMA for, "the best interest of the agency and the best interest of the president."

If things were so peachy keen, then why did the FEMA director get canned?

[Jungle Rat]

Katrina and the disastrous relief aftermath happened when? Under who? Hi there.

[puterbac]

heh @ Washington Examiner

Tick used to make some cogent points, but now it's just sad. Never comments on the content of an article or column anymore. Just tries to make snide comments about either the author, the site published on, or both in a sorry attempt to discredit. Could you be any more un-serious? It's become a reflex kind of like the left calling anybody who ask oprama or holder a question a racist. Why do they do that? Cause they got nothing else.

C'mon man at least the old guys in the balcony on the muppet show were funny.