Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

[Professor Tiger]

Post of the month.

Is there a link to that pic?

[sardis]

It's a Jew site so it will be discounted...

http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html

[Professor Tiger]

Those Jews manipulated the map with the help of the CIA.

[billy bob bocephus]

those jews are tricky - they probably used a gnomonic projection with Isreal based on an equatorial scale while the rest was based on a scale above the 80th parallel

[Owlman]

somewhat exaggerated as some of those African countries listed as Muslim are predominantly Christian

[Professor Tiger]

Those dirty rotten Christians! Stealing land from the rightful owners - the Muslims!

[Owlman]

Jewish map. Jews believe the rightful owners of that land is Muslims?

Just can't trust those Jews.

[Professor Tiger]

Christians either.

[BigRedMan]

After reading World War Z and How To Survive the Zombie Apocolypse, having played both Fallout and Fallout: New Vegas, and watched Zombieland and other various zombie movies, I for one welcome the upcoming reset of mankind and will be well prepared to survive for many years.

All of youse can suck it.

[Jungle Rat]

[sardis]

Clearly Romney and Gingrich were the smartest candidates in the room last night.

Cain didn't impress with his 9/9/9 which, if I hear one more time, I will burn down a Godfather's.

Perry looked and sounded like a buffoon as always.

Ron Paul impressed the Paultards, but had the remaining 99% of the population scratching their heads.

John Huntsman is still a nobody even after the debate.

Michelle Bachman pleasantly surprised me since I ahd a low expectation of her. She seemed more presidential than Perry. She also was endearing, not the whacky witch the media potrays her.

[AlabamAlum]

Romney-Christie? and name Gingrich SecState?

[puterbac]

What a tool...

Apologies Not Accepted

IBD EDITORIALS

Posted 10/11/2011 06:29 PM ET

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In November 2009, Barack Obama became the first U.S. president to bow to Japan's emperor.

Leadership: Leaked cables show Japan nixed a presidential apology to Hiroshima and Nagasaki for using nukes to end the overseas contingency operation known as World War II. Will the next president apologize for the current one?

The obsessive need of this president to apologize for American exceptionalism and our defense of freedom continued recently when Barack Obama's State Department (run by Hillary Clinton) contacted the family of al-Qaida propagandist and recruiter Samir Khan to "express its condolences" to his family.

Khan, a right-hand man to Anwar al-Awlaki, was killed along with Awlaki in an airstrike in Yemen on Sept. 30. We apologized for killing a terrorist before he could help kill any more of us.

It's yet another part of the world apology tour that began with Obama taking the oath of office to protect and defend the United States and its Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic, something he immediately felt sorry for.

One stop on his tour was Prague in August 2009. There he spoke of "America's commitment to seek the peace and security of a world without nuclear weapons," ignoring that before 1945 we lived in such a world and it was neither peaceful nor secure.

Another stop on the tour was in Japan, where Obama in November 2009 bowed to the emperor, something no American president had ever done. It could have been worse if plans to visit Nagasaki and Hiroshima to apologize for winning the war with the atom bombs had come to pass.

A heretofore secret cable dated Sept. 3, 2009, was recently released by WikiLeaks. Sent to Secretary of State Clinton, it reported Japan's Vice Foreign Minister Mitoji Yabunaka telling U.S. Ambassador John Roos that "the idea of President Obama visiting Hiroshima to apologize for the atomic bombing during World War II is a 'nonstarter.'"

The Japanese feared the apology would be exploited by anti-nuclear groups and those opposed to the defensive alliance between Japan and the U.S.

Whatever Tokyo's motive, Obama's motive was to once again apologize for defending freedom, this time for winning with devastating finality the war Japan started.

While Obama envisions a world without nuclear weapons, and moves steadily toward unilateral disarmament of our nuclear arsenal, we envision a world without tyrants and thugs willing to use them against us. We do not fear nuclear weapons in the hands of Britain or France, countries that share our love of freedom and democracy.

It was not all that clear in August 1945 that Japan was ready to surrender. Okinawa, where 101,000 Japanese and 24,000 Americans died, was a clear indication of the fanatical resistance to come in an invasion of the Japanese home islands. That resistance ended only when Tokyo became convinced there would soon be nothing to defend.

Nuclear weapons in the right hands ended the violence of World War II. In the right hands, they kept Western Europe free and helped win the Cold War. And the fact that they'd been used made it less likely they would ever be used again.

The world that Imperial Japan envisioned was quite different than the one we now enjoy. That regime's dream was of an imperial rising sun blistering the globe. Good thing they saw a rising sun of a quite different sort, the fulfillment of Japanese Adm. Isoroku Yamato's prophecy after Dec. 7, 1941: "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."

President Obama fails to realize that being the leader of the Free World, the last best hope for mankind, means never having to say you're sorry.

[bluetick]

What tool wrote the words We are the last best hope for mankind?

[AlabamAlum]

I believe that was written by Bruce Pearl.

[10ac]

And he was right. Now...no hope.

[bluetick]

What a crock of shit. Why not actually read the Wikileaks cable - it never says anything about oprama, Hillary, or anybody else tendering an apology for Hiroshima and Nagasaki from the American side. Yabunaka raised the subject of an apology himself...and then dismissed the prospect out of hand.

[Jungle Rat]

Bomb them again. That will stop the bitching.

[Professor Tiger]

I didn't see the debate, but by all accounts, Romney won again. And none of the other R candidates went after Romney at all. Hardly a peep about his record of rampant flip floppery on abortion, gun control, man-made global warming, or individual mandate. The peripheral R primary voter watching the debates could be forgiven for not being aware for any of these things. They may have to rely on the next Wikileaks data dump.

So, sounds like the Establishment will make sure the R's nominate another moderate centrist loser again, just like McCain, Bush Sr. and Dole.

[Owlman]

Clearly Romney and Gingrich were the smartest candidates in the room last night.

Cain didn't impress with his 9/9/9 which, if I hear one more time, I will burn down a Godfather's.

Perry looked and sounded like a buffoon as always.

Ron Paul impressed the Paultards, but had the remaining 99% of the population scratching their heads.

John Huntsman is still a nobody even after the debate.

Michelle Bachman pleasantly surprised me since I ahd a low expectation of her. She seemed more presidential than Perry. She also was endearing, not the whacky witch the media potrays her.

Agree with this assessment except for the obligatory blame the media comment. Bachman's problem is a typical problem for people running for national office from the House. You can be as outlandish as you want because it gets eaten up by the people in your protected district. But those statements come back to haunt you when you are now running for national office. It ain't the media, it's the statements. She has come across much better in the debates, but she still has to deal with her past statements.

This is a Romney nomination to lose. Perry had the nomination in his grasp and blew it. It's not over but I don't see anything from Perry that he can change (saw a video of him today saying the Revolution was in the 16th century). It'll be interesting to see Rush (and some on here) talking about how great Romney after saying they will "never" vote for him.