Florida State Seminoles

[hedge]

Happy National Tariff (Liberation) day

Yeah, liberating you from your money...

[Tree]

Tariffs are quite good at building a country's manufacturing base. Common knowledge for anyone that reads history, esp since it's a big part of US history as well. After the disastrous Dem and establishment Repub (read: Uniparty) switch to globalism, trillions upon trillions of dollars have been stolen from the middle class and given to the billionaires. All common knowledge for anyone not a complete fucktard like yourself, Hedge. Now, we have a hero class POTUS trying to reverse some of that and rebuild our manufacturing base to.....that's right bitch....make America great again.

[eCat]

amazing that Nike can lose 10 billion with a single tariff against Vietnam.

people are saying Nike will not build factories in the US as they'd rather just see the price of their shoes go up by $30 than change their business model.

fine by me. If they are that invested in slave labor to sell $100 sneakers, then fuck 'em and feed them fishheads

[eCat]

[Tree]

That's the big problem of NAFTA and other agreements that opened up investment capitalism across geopolitical boundaries. Corporations are now sovereign totalitarian states run by ruthless billionaires that care only for profit and nothing for people or democracy. And the Democratic party is now owned by these types of entities. Should have listened to Ross Perot.

[eCat]

anyone hear about this Epic City in Texas?

there should be a federal law declaring the implementation of any form of Sharia Law banned in the United States.

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"Now, we have a hero class POTUS trying to reverse some of that and rebuild our manufacturing base to.....that's right bitch....make America great again."

Speaking of fucktards, how the fuck do you think America is ever going to build its manufacturing base again with fuckwits like you comprising the pool of potential workers? You can't even keep a motherfucking dishwashing job and of course run down to the nearest unemployment office with your hand out for some benefits and food stamps, which you got. America will never be great again in terms of being an economy that depends on manufacturing precisely b/c dimwit TikTok losers like you are incapable of making it work. You're a slug and a parasite, that's all you ever have been and all you ever will be...

[hedge]

"people are saying Nike will not build factories in the US as they'd rather just see the price of their shoes go up by $30 than change their business model."

I'm sure they've figured out that the price of their shoes would have to go up by more than $30 if they had to cover all the costs of moving manufacturing back to the US and paying US level wages. And who is going to do the work? Tree? Yeah, I'm really going to shell out $130 for any product that fuckhead had anything to do with. Not...

[eCat]

That's the big problem of NAFTA and other agreements that opened up investment capitalism across geopolitical boundaries. Corporations are now sovereign totalitarian states run by ruthless billionaires that care only for profit and nothing for people or democracy. And the Democratic party is now owned by these types of entities. Should have listened to Ross Perot.

it didn't really start with NAFTA, its started in the early 60's when corporations bought into the idea that their first obligation was to maximize profits for shareholders.

Not only did that lead to the issues with trade we see now, but it also created an environment where the finance guys ended up running the companies and not the engineers.

Their idea of innovation was figuring out how to reduce cost so we ended up with things like plastic timing chain guides in cars assembled in Mexico. Meanwhile government regulations killed cars that could get 40mpg because of EPA and CAFE standards

It also killed pensions and philanthropy for the blue collar workers in America.

Now the workers retirement is tied to the stock price of the company, their insurance requires they spend thousands of dollars out of pocket before it contributes and government interference has reduced their effective wages to where someone making minimum wage in 1963 had more buying power than someone today.

[Tree]

Yeah corporations have devolved to become psychopathic entities in their own right. That happened over time. Stock buybacks becoming legal under Reagan is a good example. But opening up finances large scale into other countries and gutting our manufacturing base by throwing us into competition with third world workers made things much worse.

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those US manufacturing jobs are already pouring in.


www.moodyonthemarket.com
More layoffs for Whirlpool Corporation — latest cuts affect manufacturing
Whirlpool Corp. has announced it is letting go of an estimated 650 workers from its manufacturing facility in Amana, Iowa, effective June 1. Responding to media, Whirlpool Corp. executives blamed the layoffs on reduced consumer demand, primarily
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Whirlpool Corp. has announced it is letting go of an estimated 650 workers from its manufacturing facility in Amana, Iowa, effective June 1.

Responding to media, Whirlpool Corp. executives blamed the layoffs on reduced consumer demand, primarily refrigeration units.


“Whirlpool Corporation has made necessary adjustments to production at its Amana operations to align with current market conditions driven by consumer demand. This has resulted in the announcement of a workforce reduction of approximately 650 employees within specific production teams at the facility. We are committed to supporting affected employees through this transition by providing access to onsite HR support and a dedicated employee support line, an employee assistance program, and guidance on unemployment benefits through Iowa Workforce Development.”

The layoff will affect nearly one-third of the company’s workforce of 2,000 employees in Amana.

[hedge]

The look of abject stupidity and vacant ignorance on the students' faces reminds me exactly of Tree...

[hedge]

LMAO. We had to wait for the AI technology boom? That was the strategy?? Fucking clown show...

[hedge]

From IC:

Trump committed country economic reassignment surgery without the parents' permission.

As a Trans-economy, the US will no longer be able to enter global economic competitions.

[eCat]

its not about buying a $150 shirt

thats why these people are morons

there is no argument that china, vietnam, whoever can make shirts cheaper than us, but when they export $200b worth of goods and don't buy any American goods, matter of fact they put tariffs on American goods to prevent the import of them, then its a problem. (also, if tariffs are so bad why do all these countries have them?) Its never been about trying to compete with a country at something they are better at making than we are.

Americans should be free to buy as much cheap Chinese shit as they want, provided that China buys as much American stuff , or at a minimum, doesn't create a trade imbalance by artificially inflating the price of American goods in their country or other trade restriction, OR as China has been known to do, dump commodities like steel at below market value while subsidizing their own industry.

The fact is no one knows what is going to happen, but if America is willing to endure some short term pain, the countries that have protectionist practices in place since WWII are going to feel that pain by a much larger margin.

The smart ones are just willing to drop the tariffs and compete on the free market knowing that American trade will still be a surplus for them due to their labor costs. The others are hoping that Americans will cry and scream that the orange man is bad for trying to implement a level playing field in for our economy when they aren't out setting Tesla's on fire.

[eCat]

here is what I think is a good evaluation of what is happening

$9.2T in debt matures in 2025. Inflation lingers


If rolled into 10-yr bonds, every 1 basis point drop in rates saves approx $1B/year; so a 0.5% drop would save $500B over a decade.
How to push yields down with sticky inflation and cautious Fed? Manufacture uncertainty. Sweep in with tariffs, spook the markets, trigger risk-off. Money exits stocks, floods into long-term Treasuries. A deliberate “detox” to cool the economy and cut refinancing costs.

But cheap refinancing isn’t enough on its own. Even at lower rates, the debt remains enormous. That’s where the next lever comes in: cutting the deficit.

DOGE is targeting cutting $4b per day targeting $1 trilling by September

Tariffs come in as a trigger for domestic industrial revival. The thinking is: by making imports expensive, you create room for U.S. producers to step in

But here’s the problem: American factories can’t scale up overnight. So in the short term, consumers will face higher prices. The administration knows this. That’s why they’re front-loading the pain now, betting that by 2026, the benefits will be visible.

Tax cuts have already been floated to help offset the cost burden on households. And while risky, currency devaluation may follow later to make imports cheaper without lifting tariffs.

A common critique is: why impose tariffs before building out the capacity to replace imports? But that assumes tariffs are the end goal. They’re not. They’re the starting gun—a way to force movement both inside the U.S. and around the world.

Which brings us to geopolitics. Before tariffs, Trump’s team signaled a global order reset: pulling back from NATO, cooling EU ties, and opening diplomatic space with Russia, Saudi Arabia, etc. Tariffs now serve as leverage to renegotiate terms based on America-First policy.

Expect a lot of bilateral deals in the coming months. Tariffs will be lowered for countries that offer strategic concessions—on trade, security, or industrial policy. Those that resist? They'll pay higher costs until they decide to come to the table.

China is the focal point. Observers have long argued: China isn’t a poor country. It’s a wealthy, high-capacity state that floods markets with exports its currency artificially low. Tariffs could be used to force big moves like currency appreciation by China.

Lines will be redrawn with other allies too. Europe may be pushed to cut exposure to China or negotiate on Ukraine. India may be forced to cut tariffs and move closer to U.S. alignment. Mexico and Canada could face demands to crack down on fentanyl trafficking routes.

In the US economy there will be clear winners and losers. Steel, autos, and textiles are likely to benefit—industries that form Trump’s political base. But tech, retail, and construction—sectors more reliant on imports—could take a hit, especially in swing states.

That’s the political gamble. If jobs return fast enough in key states, and inflation remains under control, the tariffs may look like a bold but effective move. But if prices spike and job creation lags, the strategy could backfire by November 2026.

So here’s the big picture: → Lower yields ease the debt wall → Spending cuts restore fiscal discipline → Tariffs jumpstart domestic growth → And geopolitics gets rewritten in America’s favor It’s disruption by design—with enormous stakes.


If it works, it’s a defining success:
→ Debt under control
→ Manufacturing reborn
→ Global leverage restored
→ Trumpism vindicated in 2026

If it fails:
→ Inflation
→ Retaliation
→ Lost midterms
→ Strategic drift

18 months to find out if the gamble pays off.

[Jungle Rat]

[Jungle Rat]

WINNING!!

[Jungle Rat]