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Post by aTm » Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:42 pm

I disagree. I used to think a lot like you, but Ive now seen too many wild swings in public opinions and even in terms of experts opinions on this like this change wildly. And maybe some of it is me giving media too much credit and it’s something more like mob hysteria or something.

I suspect RFK Jr is just RFK Jr when working in both areas and yeah he probably has certain specialties and knowledge but people do not generally have some kind of weird polarity in their field where they are both insane and extremely competent at the same time. One of the two views is likely just wrong.
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Post by hedge » Fri Nov 15, 2024 5:32 pm

I don't know about his competence at all, I'm talking about his general stances on healthcare writ large, which I think are borderline whacky but in any case just plain wrong (obviously vaccines are the main area where he's far outside the mainstream, but there are other areas as well) and the environment writ large, where I think he has genuine concern and is generally "right" in his thinking about most of the environmental issues (obviously climate change is the biggy here, but my bro says he's done good work in many less high profile areas when it comes to environmental issues). As far as his competence in getting anything done in either of these areas, I have no idea, but I generally tend to support somebody whose general views on any given topic aligns with mine. As I said, I'd be very supportive of his nomination as head of the EPA. Regardless, he's an odd bird for sure..
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Post by innocentbystander » Fri Nov 15, 2024 7:07 pm

hedge wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:23 pmHave I delved deeply into it myself? Not really, but my brother has, and I trust his opinion, just like I trust the opinion of one of my best friend's dad, who is a physician and emeritus professor of immunology at UAB, when it came to covid (he does not agree with RFK's views on covid or vaccines in general, to say the least).
What exactly did your best friend's dad, the emeritus professor of immunology at UAB, say about Dr Fauci and how he handled the covid pandemic? I too, am not interested in the media noise. I am interested in what he specifically said.
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Post by The Prof Returns » Sat Nov 16, 2024 8:49 am

When I went through the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Glenco GA, they spent a lot of time teaching us about Bivens lawsuits. Generally, federal law enforcement officers have qualified immunity against lawsuits. But if a federal law enforcement officer, acting in his official capacity, goes outside the scope of his duties, and violates somebody’s constitutional rights, that person CAN sue you under the Bivens law.

So if a corrections officer cuffs up an inmate, and proceeds to beat that inmate up in violation of official policy, that inmate can sue that officer. Not only can that officer be forced to pay out of his own pocket for damages, the federal government will not pay for his legal defense. He’ll have to pay for his own by lawyers.

At least that’s what the instructors taught us. It was a powerful deterrent for federal law enforcement officers not to violate the civil rights of inmates. Under Bivens, that inmate might lawyer up, come back, and take your house, car, life savings, etc. I would be interested in getting Dooksucks legal perspective.

Anyway, this sounds like a great way to go after the present and former leaders of the DOJ and FBI. They’ve been using their law enforcement authority to go outside the scope of their duties to violate citizens civil rights on an industrial scale.

Start with those FISA requests. There are laws that govern those things. By signing them, senior law enforcement officers are stating that those requests are in compliance with those laws. The IG Horowitz report confirmed that 4 of those FISA requests failed to comply with the law. Of course, nothing ever happened that them. Carter Page’s constitutional rights were violated. He should sue every single official (starting with Comey, McCabe and Rosenstein) that signed those fraudulent FISA requests, and take everything they own.

Follow that up with AG Garland, who did not enforce clear federal laws against protests at the homes of ANY federal judge, much less a SCOTUS judge. As a very predictable result, there was an attempted assassination of Justice Kavanaugh. The Kavananaugh’s family’s civil rights were violated. Mrs Kavanaugh should Bivens the crap out of AG Garland for what he did to her and her family, and send him into retirement penniless.

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Post by hedge » Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:14 pm

I had forgotten how stupid you are. You're going to give IB a run for his money...
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Post by innocentbystander » Sat Nov 16, 2024 3:15 pm

The Prof Returns wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 8:49 am Start with those FISA requests. There are laws that govern those things. By signing them, senior law enforcement officers are stating that those requests are in compliance with those laws. The IG Horowitz report confirmed that 4 of those FISA requests failed to comply with the law. Of course, nothing ever happened that them. Carter Page’s constitutional rights were violated. He should sue every single official (starting with Comey, McCabe and Rosenstein) that signed those fraudulent FISA requests, and take everything they own.

Follow that up with AG Garland, who did not enforce clear federal laws against protests at the homes of ANY federal judge, much less a SCOTUS judge. As a very predictable result, there was an attempted assassination of Justice Kavanaugh. The Kavananaugh’s family’s civil rights were violated. Mrs Kavanaugh should Bivens the crap out of AG Garland for what he did to her and her family, and send him into retirement penniless.
Unfortunately, we don't live in a nation with right or wrong anymore Prof. We live in a "win-lose" nation, an "us or them" nation. What is right and what is wrong, that is predicated entirely on politics, nothing more. These lawsuits would only benefit Carter Page and the Kavanaugh family if (and ONLY if) the judge and/or jury deciding the suit are on their side, politically. That is where we are at.

I have lost faith in what was supposed to be the blindness of our justice system.
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Post by Jungle Rat » Sun Nov 17, 2024 9:48 am

Politics suck. Nobody cares what y'all think.

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Post by eCat » Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:36 am

she hated Trump so much she threw away her career. Other people tracking polls knew she was manipulating the numbers to get the result she wanted

I like the stinky pinky but only up to the first knuckle, I do not want a GD thumb up there--I've told her multiple times and I always catch her when she tries to pull a fast one---it's my butthole for Chrissakes I'm gonna know--so cut out the BS.

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Post by sardis » Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:29 am

Them real saggy.

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Post by hedge » Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:56 pm

But he didn't know anything about Project 2025...

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Post by hedge » Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:57 pm

It's all coming together for Musk now...

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Post by hedge » Mon Nov 18, 2024 2:26 pm

Ohio governor, other leaders condemn neo-Nazi march in Columbus: "Your hate isn't welcome in our city"

Leaders in Ohio condemned a group of neo-Nazis parading around part of Columbus carrying flags with swastikas on Saturday afternoon.

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Post by aTm » Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:16 pm

I assumed they were just Ohio State fans wearing their colors.
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Post by eCat » Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:41 am

this has always been bullshit to me

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Apparently Elon feels the same way - says he wants the government to implement a website you go to, punch in your information and it tells you what you owe in taxes. Seems reasonable to me
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Post by innocentbystander » Tue Nov 19, 2024 5:52 pm

Trump's appointment to be the next director of the CIA



Under the Biden administration, Strzok got $1.5 million of our tax dollars as his golden government parachute for using his law enforcement authority to destroy Trump, all the while, only trying to please that cunt of a girlfriend he had so he could keep getting his dick wet.
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Post by Jungle Rat » Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:47 pm

Musk owns Trump.

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Post by innocentbystander » Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:39 pm

Jungle Rat wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:47 pm Musk owns Trump.
Well he's got $320,000,000,000 so... yeah
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Post by Jungle Rat » Wed Nov 20, 2024 6:20 pm

He's paying his bills for favors. Guaranteed.

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Post by innocentbystander » Wed Nov 20, 2024 8:05 pm

Jungle Rat wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 6:20 pm He's paying his bills for favors. Guaranteed.
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