Baseball

[Dave23]

Your last two posts are making you look even worse. You should stop.

[hedge]

"But that still doesn't change the fact that the best high school kids will make more money playing single A or double-A ball than they ever could from NIL money at Texas A&M."

"so why go to college on a scholarship if you can play A or AA ball immediately and get paid $40,000 a year with a $10,000 signing bonus?"

You don't think that A&M or any other major college program can't come up with $50K a year to pay their players? Your lack of imagination (and knowledge) is astounding...

[Dave23]

I will throw you this, though…metal bats have been deadened to the point where they are quite similar to hitting with wood.

[innocentbystander]

Nobody took metal bats away from pros. Bats were always wood. Amateur leagues like colleges, high schools, little leagues etc began to use metal bats as ostensibly a safety and cost saving measure because metal bats dont break.

aTm,

Look I totally respect you. But, no. Absolutely not. This has nothing to do with money. This has to do with professional ball players being AWESOME (with incredible bat speed and physical power) and if you give them a very light, metal bat, they are pretty much going to homer every single time they hit the ball. Or worse. If they don't homer, they will hit an in field single or double so hard with so much velocity that the players on the field trying to field it, they would likely get hurt fielding it! Pitcher throws the fast ball at 100 mph, the batter (with an aluminum bat) hits it back at him (just 60 feet away) at 200+ mph! And likely when they foul the ball, someone in the stands would get hurt or killed. So to save the game, MLB said no metal bats.

https://www.google.com/search?q=why+are ... nt=gws-wiz

Aluminum bats offer unparalleled speed and power to players, allowing them to generate far greater velocity when hitting a ball than a wooden bat. However, for professional players at the Major League Baseball (MLB) level, this velocity can be dangerous for both players on the field and those sitting in the stands.

In college, the players are "meh" and we don't have to worry about that. Moreover, in college, the pitchers are good enough to shut everyone down so they let the batters play with metal bats in order for them to be fast enough on their swing to hit a fast ball.

[Dave23]

And with that, I’m done…

[innocentbystander]

hey Dave, don't let the door hit you on the way out and watch out for the balls hit by metal bats.

[aTm]

I agree that someone could get hurt or killed by a hitter with 200+ mph exit velo

[Jungle Rat]

I will say this, though…if you believe that A and AA rosters are full of 18-19 year old kids, I suggest you do some research and then rethink your position.

And who in A ball is making 40k? NIL money at a top 25 program will get you paid. IB, Dave is right. You are so off base it's just not worth it. Stick to what you know best. Repressing women.

That Venezuelan kid who signed with the Mets at age 16, he was given $750,000. To play A ball. In 2007.

Fuck you rat. I got you.

He wasn't drafted.

[hedge]

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAIBISAFAGGOTWHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!

[innocentbystander]

And who in A ball is making 40k? NIL money at a top 25 program will get you paid. IB, Dave is right. You are so off base it's just not worth it. Stick to what you know best. Repressing women.

That Venezuelan kid who signed with the Mets at age 16, he was given $750,000. To play A ball. In 2007.

Fuck you rat. I got you.

He wasn't drafted.

So.

No NIL at any major university is going to fork over $750,000 to a 16 year old, 3rd world, peasant, who isn't even literate in English (could NEVER be admitted to the school academically) to play baseball. However, if you have a fucking awesome scouting department and you can find a foreign national in a faraway country who (at 16) you identified as "gifted" in baseball, and lock him down (while still a child) with a huge pile of money and an O-1 Visa, you don't have to worry about the damn draft. You acted pro-actively for someone that you know will someday be a major leaguer.

Fuck you.

[Dave23]

Dear God, make it stop…

[hedge]

If you're talking about his heart, I concur...

[hedge]

"You acted pro-actively for someone that you know will someday be a major leaguer."

Rat told you he wasn't drafted. Why did you lie, IB?

[Dave23]

They’re not even eligible for the draft. He couldn’t be more wrong.

[innocentbystander]

hedge, I acknowledged rat's point about him not being drafted when I said.... "so?" I then proceeded to make my point which you missed. I don't lie. But YOU don't read.

[innocentbystander]

They’re not even eligible for the draft. He couldn’t be more wrong.

But those 16 year old 3rd world peasants ARE eligible to go to a US university (someday) and becoming US citizens (someday.) Which might make the eligible. In the future.

My original point stands, players drafted in the higher rounds, generally speaking, they play minor league ball and pass on their scholarship offers. These are the best players who play the best ball. The ones who take their scholarship offers, they were drafted in later rounds and weren't given signing bonuses. Dave....



Now maybe NIL money will have some impact. But I am of the opinion that the alumni who fund these NILs, they are not going to throw the kind of bribe money at these high round draft picks that they could get from professional franchises. Of course that remains to be seen.

And the late round draft picks who become super stars, the Mike Piazas of the world, they are generally one-offs, prospects. Most (almost all) wash out.

[Dave23]

And there it is…

All you were missing was the movie clip that adds nothing to the conversation…

[innocentbystander]

And there WHAT is? You said that before and its just rhetoric.

Look Dave, if you want to watch college baseball, go ahead. I don't care. Watch it. Waste your time. But that is a sub-standard sport played by sub-standard baseball players who (largely) will never hold a bat or glove for pay once they graduate. I won't watch it.

There are two major college sports that are funnels the youngest athletes directly to professional sports, one in the fall and one in the winter. And there is a reason why that is. And that is because the NBA owners and the NFL owners are fucking brilliant. Baseball and hockey would rather spend the money to have their own, very robust, farm systems. Now the NBA has more than 20 years with their farm system, but it is still in its infancy compared to the others. it will get there.

[aTm]

There are 8 teams in the college world series and among them there are probably 80+ players on them that will be drafted. The 1st overall and 2nd overall draft pick last year both went to LSU, and I think LSU had about 15 players drafted. NCAA football and basketball and professional minor league baseball are all also played (largely) by players who will never play again within one to three seasons as well. A college football team has like 100+ players out of which like ten to twenty on a team will ever play pro football.

The idea that NFL and NBA owners are brilliant to use colleges is more dumbfuckery from you. The reason that the NFL and NBA use college players is that college football and basketball became big before most of the country gave a fuck about the the NBA and NFL, which are both newcomers who made their hay starting after WW2. Major League Baseball was the top level of a much more mature sport well over a hundred years ago where every little town had a team before college sports were more than glorified student clubs, and the farm system developed out of it in the 20's and 30's. All three leagues used existing frameworks to find their talent, MLB's is shaped the way it is compared to NFL and NBA only because that sport is older.

[Jungle Rat]