Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

[Jungle Rat]

fuckin Bush

[puterbac]

What a shocker...

Cleaver: If Obama wasn't president, we would be ‘marching on the White House’

By Alicia M. Cohn - 09/18/11 03:48 PM ET

Unhappy members of the Congressional Black Caucus “probably would be marching on the White House” if Obama were not president, according to CBC Chairman Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.).

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing- ... hite-house

[Toemeesleather]

Former Clinton adviser, Mark Penn on Obammer:


"He should be holding down taxes rather than raising them. He should be mastering the global economy, not running away from it. And most of all, he should be bringing the country together rather than dividing it through class warfare."

[puterbac]

FACT CHECK: Are rich taxed less than secretaries?

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama says he wants to make sure millionaires are taxed at higher rates than their secretaries. The data say they already are.

"Warren Buffett's secretary shouldn't pay a higher tax rate than Warren Buffett. There is no justification for it," Obama said as he announced his deficit-reduction plan this week. "It is wrong that in the United States of America, a teacher or a nurse or a construction worker who earns $50,000 should pay higher tax rates than somebody pulling in $50 million."

On average, the wealthiest people in America pay a lot more taxes than the middle class or the poor, according to private and government data. They pay at a higher rate, and as a group, they contribute a much larger share of the overall taxes collected by the federal government.

http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-rich-t ... 42868.html

[Dr. Nostron]

What a load of horsecrap - its doubtful there is a gun pointed at Mr Buffett's head forcing him to take all the deductions and credits available to him.

[puterbac]

Duh

[puterbac]

Again...DUH...said this two years ago when the bullshit got passed...they want to get as many people on it as possible, choice or force matters not. It will become a crisis as the total cost of it skyrockets, and then the Dims will declare the only solution is a full govt takeover.

Dean: Employers will drop coverage under Obamacare

Former Democratic National Committee Chairman, and doctor, Howard Dean backed a McKinsey & Co. survey today that found that almost a third of private-sector employers will drop their employee health insurance coverage when Obamacare's government-managed insurance exchanges come online.

Dean told Morning Joe, "The fact is it is very good for small business. There was a McKinsey study, which the Democrats don't like, but I do, and I think its true. Most small businesses are not going to be in the health insurance business anymore after this thing goes into effect."

The reason Democrats fought so hard to dismiss the McKinsey survey when it was released is because its conclusion undermines two major claims Obama made during health care debate: "If you like your health plan, you can keep it" and "It will not add one penny to the deficit."

Fellow Morning Joe guest former New York Gov. George Pataki immediately hit the first point: "The only way its a help is if they drop coverage and their employees would all of a sudden have to go on the exchange, which is what of course the president promised wouldn't happen."

The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) premised their Obamacare score on the assumption that only 7 percent of employers would drop their employee health plans. If the percentage is closer to the 30 percent, as the McKinsey survey results predict, Obamacare's price tag would rise by almost $1 trillion.

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer. ... -obamacare

[puterbac]

The Chicago way...

Solyndra execs will decline to testify at hearing

Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:26pm GMT Print | Single Page [-] Text [+]

Sept 20 (Reuters) - Solyndra LLC's chief executive and chief financial officer will invoke their Fifth Amendment rights and decline to answer any questions put to them at a Congressional hearing on Friday, according to letters from their attorneys obtained by Reuters.

In the letters sent to the House Energy and Commerce Committee's Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, attorneys for Solyndra CEO Brian Harrison and CFO W. G. Stover said they advised their clients not to provide testimony during the hearings.

The bankrupt company's $535 million federal loan guarantee is being investigated by the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

Harrison is represented by Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe and Stover is represented by Keker & Van Nest.

Solyndra's offices were raided by the FBI two days after the company filed for bankruptcy, although the FBI did not say what prompted the raid. (Reporting by Nichola Groom in Los Angeles, editing by Gerald E. McCormick)

[Dr. Strangelove]

Why are Republican dominated states the poorest in the nation?

http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/21/opinion/m ... ?hpt=hp_c1

[Hacksaw]

Because "poorest" is being defined by people who hate Republicans?

Just a guess.

[AlabamAlum]

It's a false association. Those states would still be the poorest if they had voted democrat.

[Toemeesleather]

If you measure poverty rate strictly by income.....well, yer an idiot.

[crashcourse]

that's how the united states measures it

friom wiki-'The government's definition of poverty is not tied to an absolute value of how much an individual or family can afford, but is tied to a relative level based on total income received'

so if buffet jhas a billion dollars but only made 20K this year he is below the poverty line and counts as 1 of those in poverty

stupid

[sardis]

Why are Republican dominated states the poorest in the nation?

http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/21/opinion/m ... ?hpt=hp_c1

America is a great country where a citizen does not have to languish in the oppression of Southern poverty, but can start life anew in the fruited economic plains of the upper Midwest...

[10ac]

I think I'll just languish.

[AlabamAlum]

Ditto.

[sardis]

I guess a book is coming out on the innerworkings of the Oprama economic group.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/susk ... 53876.html

A telling quote...

"The book portrays Obama as a meek president who has been manipulated by aides who thought they knew better than him."

Sound familiar? Paulsen and Cheney did the same to Bush. This is why we can't continue put mental deadbeats like Rick Perry in White House. Romney is clearly the better choice for 2012.

[billy bob bocephus]

how did IB get sardis' sign on?

[gule]

Herman Cain is the MAN 2012

[gule]

Cain/Palin 2012