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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by innocentbystander » Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:32 pm

eCat wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:24 pm While UK is treading water , UNC looks to be sinking

Its a shit year for college basketball
Not for Houston*. Or Purdue*. Certainly not for Alabama*.

Most Houston Cougar fans do not give a damn that their program may be dirty and that their head coach has been seriously reprimanded by the NCAA for violations. The fans that like winning, in almost ALL cases (not all, almost all) just want to win. They don't give two shits how it happens so long as they win. I get it.

Much like college football, men's hoops IS a sales job. You have to be a salesman first, coach second. You have to sell the top blue chips (who have their choice of schools with scholarship offers) to pick their school. Quite often, that choice must mean the salesman is breaking the rules. But if you don't have the horses (and we don't have them at BC or Northeastern) it doesn't matter how good a coach you are or how clean the program is. You'll still be... meh.

*on edit, I am not a Houston, Purdue, or Alabama fan. But they do exist. They are just not... here.
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by DooKSucks » Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:17 pm

Fuck
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by hedge » Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:06 pm

"So now, I root for Arizona because BC sucks and my daughter is a Wildcat."

Speaking of suck and root, I heard your daughter is a wildcat in the sack...
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by Jungle Rat » Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:24 pm

She is but when she screams Daddy! it sorta freaks me out.

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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by The Anti k* » Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:48 pm

DS & Hedge — Y’all are old school fans like me. We’re in deeeeep k*rzyt. Not only are we going to miss the NCAA Tournament after being preseason #1, we’re going to be worse next year. The only two 2023 recruits (barring a reclass) are ranked #35 & #60. Neither is a lights out shooter. And if Bacot, Love and Davis all leave, 2023-24 will be the first Carolina Basketball team with zero McDonald’s All-Americans since the inception of that game.

Roy Williams royally fucked us with this hiring. And there’s no way he’ll allow a coaching change as long as the University lets him treat the job like a Fambly hardware store.

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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by sardis » Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:54 pm

Will this finally finish off Goldenbear? Just looking for a silver lining.

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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by hedge » Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:20 pm

Bacot, Love and Davis will be back. None of them will be able to make more money anywhere next year than they will at UNC. I'm actually not sure if that's a good thing...
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by The Anti k* » Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:26 pm

hedge wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:20 pm Bacot, Love and Davis will be back. None of them will be able to make more money anywhere next year than they will at UNC. I'm actually not sure if that's a good thing...
I want them gone (except maybe Bacot). And I want Reverend Mike/Hubert Davis to get the fuck out, too.

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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

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quote="The Anti k*" post_id=209984 time=1676850511 user_id=64]
DS & Hedge — Y’all are old school fans like me. We’re in deeeeep k*rzyt. Not only are we going to miss the NCAA Tournament after being preseason #1, we’re going to be worse next year. The only two 2023 recruits (barring a reclass) are ranked #35 & #60. Neither is a lights out shooter. And if Bacot, Love and Davis all leave, 2023-24 will be the first Carolina Basketball team with zero McDonald’s All-Americans since the inception of that game.

Roy Williams royally fucked us with this hiring. And there’s no way he’ll allow a coaching change as long as the University lets him treat the job like a Fambly hardware store.
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hedge wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:20 pm Bacot, Love and Davis will be back. None of them will be able to make more money anywhere next year than they will at UNC. I'm actually not sure if that's a good thing...
1) This team has no fire. There were moments when they could have pushed the ball and failed to do so.

2) This team has an undersized shooting guard running point, and Davis makes horrible decisions when he drives. Granted, the entire team makes awful decisions on offense.

3) This team does not have a true leader and has no concept of how to play smart basketball as evidenced by
-overall lack of cohesiveness
-inability to block out on a consistent basis
-penchant for stupid turnovers
-defensive lapses / spacing issues / inability to defend screens properly
-refusal to take advantage of favorable situations on offense
-horrible offensive sets
-blowing second half leads in eight of its eleven losses

4) There is no reliable shooter, but yet they keep chunking up shit shots from outside. Defenses collapse because this team sucks from outside, but that’s when you need movement and run high/low sets with your two 6’10” bigs.

5) Larry Nance is not Pete’s father. There is no way his offspring is so flat footed. Larry Nance must feel like Buford T. Justice and wanting to punch Pete’s mother in the mouth.

6) I think Bacot, Davis and Love will leave. The latter two obviously have people in their ear telling them that each is “the man,” and they will see if they can do it better elsewhere whether in the portal, G League and Bumfuck Eastern Europe. Bacot has the ability to catch on with a Euroleague team or one of the other top tier Spanish, Italian, French or German teams. He will make $500k+ and get to work on developing his game against professionals with better coaching.

7) The lack of coaching is appalling.
-There are no meaningful adjustments, and there has been no attempts to hold players accountable by substituting a kid out after a stupid play, quality of the sub be damned a la Coach Smith and Roy.
-Allowing Nance to keep hoisting three’s and not use him to properly substitute for Bacot
-The underutilization of Washington
-Refusal/inability to develop Nickel and Dunn as subs who can be effective bench shooters

8) Hubert’s solution for next season looks like it will be bringing in Cadeau, Jackson and Stevenson (if/when Stevenson commits) early, and that will be a dumpster fire.

I doubt Jay Wright has the fire in his belly to take on such a task, and I don’t know if Nate Oates would leave Bama’s money or pass muster with the administration because of some rumors/innuendo on recruiting issues from what I understand. So, the two best somewhat realistic choices are not on the board. I don’t know if Cronin would want to leave UCLA, but he’s my choice. He may not play a fast paced style or recruit elite five stats, but he can coach his ass off and develop teams. He has been my “realistic” choice for a while, starting before Roy retired, but I don’t think that has a chance either.

Stackhouse was really respected in NBA circles based on his time coaching in the G-League, and while Vandy has been a struggle, that team has won five in a row and looks vastly improved. If Stackhouse keeps showing improvement at Vandy despite the school’s refusal / inability to have a modern athletic department with NIL, I would think he might get a look because he is “family,” but he can’t have anymore incidents where that attitude and temper comes out. I am probably biased here though since he’s from eastern NC, even if he’s from Kinston.
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by eCat » Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:04 am

Stackhouse has a temper but he is coming into his own.

If he could get some players he'd probably be good coach.

His X and O's are pretty solid

I was hoping he and Penny would get a rivalry going
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by hedge » Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:45 am

I suspect the look on Hubert's face in front of this background and under these circumstances is enraging to antiK and DS. Can't say I'm very pleased myself...

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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by The Anti k* » Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:44 am

hedge wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:45 am I suspect the look on Hubert's face in front of this background and under these circumstances is enraging to antiK and DS. Can't say I'm very pleased myself...

Despise this buffoon! He’s Bible-thumping Doherty.

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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by The Anti k* » Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:45 am

Fantastic post, DS!

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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by innocentbystander » Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:11 am

The Anti k* wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:45 am Fantastic post, DS!
It was
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Post by DooKSucks » Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:13 am

The Anti k* wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:45 am Fantastic post, DS!
Please excuse the late night typos…
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by The Anti k* » Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:17 pm

We were 5-0 on Thanksgiving and ranked #1.

We are 11-11 ever since.

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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by DooKSucks » Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:41 pm

Carolina athletics went to shit about 8:30pm the Saturday before Thanksgiving when Downs dropped the game winning pass against GT in the end zone.
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by innocentbystander » Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:23 pm

The Anti k* wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:17 pm We were 5-0 on Thanksgiving and ranked #1.

We are 11-11 ever since.
Win the tournament in Greensboro. All will be forgiven.
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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by hedge » Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:35 pm

We're 36-6 vs. NC State over the last 42 games (and we split with them this year). Here's what they came up with:

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Re: Ostensibly Hoops

Post by eCat » Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:28 pm

I would be embarrassed at that
I like the stinky pinky but only up to the first knuckle, I do not want a GD thumb up there--I've told her multiple times and I always catch her when she tries to pull a fast one---it's my butthole for Chrissakes I'm gonna know--so cut out the BS.

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