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Big tech is about to get Ma Belled
I like the stinky pinky but only up to the first knuckle, I do not want a GD thumb up there--I've told her multiple times and I always catch her when she tries to pull a fast one---it's my butthole for Chrissakes I'm gonna know--so cut out the BS.
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Response from an IC poster to one of the board Trumplicans squealing about the Twitter/Hunter Biden thingy:
LOL. There's nothing there. They were concerned that maybe the computer was hacked, and they had a policy against posting hacked materials. They also thought it was, you know, disinformation.
The ENTIRE blame for the "suppression" of the Hunter Biden laptop story should be placed on Giuliani. If he had told the computer repair shop owner to contact CNN or the Washington Post or pretty much anyone, then maybe there would have been a report. But no, he told the guy to give the hard drive to him, and then he gave it to the Post, and then the Post didn't let anyone see it.
Seriously: imagine if the NYT had run a story about Don Jr. telling foreign officials that they could only get an audience with the president if they stayed at a Trump hotel -- and the source for the story was a hard drive on a computer that Don Jr. had left on the subway, and then someone gave the drive to John Podesta, who helpfully routed it to the Times. Conservatives would have been screaming bloody murder about that, and we know that because they screamed bloody murder about well-sourced reports so frequently during Trump's administration. Except the hypothetical I just posted isn't as extreme as the reality, because John Podesta was a person with a functioning brain. Giuliani was spending so much time acting like an idiot and a buffoon on the campaign trail, and then he suddenly shows up with a hard drive?
The entire story didn't pass the straight face test. And it came in the wake of Trump trying to force Ukraine to dig up dirt on Biden, meaning that this story was exactly the sort of BS everyone was expecting.
The idea that the story was "buried" is ludicrous. To the extent it was suppressed, it's because it had ALL the hallmarks of disinformation, and absolutely no indicators of reliability. None.
LOL. There's nothing there. They were concerned that maybe the computer was hacked, and they had a policy against posting hacked materials. They also thought it was, you know, disinformation.
The ENTIRE blame for the "suppression" of the Hunter Biden laptop story should be placed on Giuliani. If he had told the computer repair shop owner to contact CNN or the Washington Post or pretty much anyone, then maybe there would have been a report. But no, he told the guy to give the hard drive to him, and then he gave it to the Post, and then the Post didn't let anyone see it.
Seriously: imagine if the NYT had run a story about Don Jr. telling foreign officials that they could only get an audience with the president if they stayed at a Trump hotel -- and the source for the story was a hard drive on a computer that Don Jr. had left on the subway, and then someone gave the drive to John Podesta, who helpfully routed it to the Times. Conservatives would have been screaming bloody murder about that, and we know that because they screamed bloody murder about well-sourced reports so frequently during Trump's administration. Except the hypothetical I just posted isn't as extreme as the reality, because John Podesta was a person with a functioning brain. Giuliani was spending so much time acting like an idiot and a buffoon on the campaign trail, and then he suddenly shows up with a hard drive?
The entire story didn't pass the straight face test. And it came in the wake of Trump trying to force Ukraine to dig up dirt on Biden, meaning that this story was exactly the sort of BS everyone was expecting.
The idea that the story was "buried" is ludicrous. To the extent it was suppressed, it's because it had ALL the hallmarks of disinformation, and absolutely no indicators of reliability. None.
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I am not going to read a long post that starts with LOL and then gets it wrong.
Twitter had a policy on hacked that required a police report. There was none.
They bypassed their own policy and kept it from the CEO
Twitter had a policy on hacked that required a police report. There was none.
They bypassed their own policy and kept it from the CEO
I like the stinky pinky but only up to the first knuckle, I do not want a GD thumb up there--I've told her multiple times and I always catch her when she tries to pull a fast one---it's my butthole for Chrissakes I'm gonna know--so cut out the BS.
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More:
"This story was suppressed not because of some dick pic, but because of the threat of whatever was on that laptop related to Hunter’s “business dealings” with Ukraine and China."
"Nope. It was "suppressed" because it appeared to be obvious disinformation. I neither know nor care what on the laptop was or wasn't hacked/manipulated. We will probably never know because the idiot shop owner turned it over to Giuliani, who turned it over to the Post. It's almost as if they went out of their way to make the story as ridiculous as possible, and to destroy their own credibility. Then they complained that nobody took it seriously. Well, duh.
Maybe if Trump had not lied 30K times in office, people wouldn't have been so skeptical. But at that point in the campaign, virtually everything coming out of his mouth was a lie. Everything coming out of Rudy's mouth was a lie also -- remember, he's been disbarred because of his repeated lies to courts post-election. So the MAGA idiots wanted us to believe that an inveterate liar working for another inveterate liar who had already been impeached for attempting to coerce an ally into doing political dirty work for him (on the exact topic of this laptop) had really stumbled upon a hard drive randomly left in a computer shop -- a hard drive they didn't let anyone see, and that they delivered to partisan media that incessantly lies about Biden in particular?
Look, just because people like you will swallow just anything hook, line and sinker doesn't mean that the rest of us are obligated to suspend our reasonable disbelief. If you want to believe all of Trump's "some people are saying" and "excuse me, sir" stories, that's your choice. I am never going to believe dubious BS just because it is presented to me. That is a big difference between you and me."
"This story was suppressed not because of some dick pic, but because of the threat of whatever was on that laptop related to Hunter’s “business dealings” with Ukraine and China."
"Nope. It was "suppressed" because it appeared to be obvious disinformation. I neither know nor care what on the laptop was or wasn't hacked/manipulated. We will probably never know because the idiot shop owner turned it over to Giuliani, who turned it over to the Post. It's almost as if they went out of their way to make the story as ridiculous as possible, and to destroy their own credibility. Then they complained that nobody took it seriously. Well, duh.
Maybe if Trump had not lied 30K times in office, people wouldn't have been so skeptical. But at that point in the campaign, virtually everything coming out of his mouth was a lie. Everything coming out of Rudy's mouth was a lie also -- remember, he's been disbarred because of his repeated lies to courts post-election. So the MAGA idiots wanted us to believe that an inveterate liar working for another inveterate liar who had already been impeached for attempting to coerce an ally into doing political dirty work for him (on the exact topic of this laptop) had really stumbled upon a hard drive randomly left in a computer shop -- a hard drive they didn't let anyone see, and that they delivered to partisan media that incessantly lies about Biden in particular?
Look, just because people like you will swallow just anything hook, line and sinker doesn't mean that the rest of us are obligated to suspend our reasonable disbelief. If you want to believe all of Trump's "some people are saying" and "excuse me, sir" stories, that's your choice. I am never going to believe dubious BS just because it is presented to me. That is a big difference between you and me."
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This is from 2020, just days before the election. Tucker claimed he had documents from Hunter's laptop, but then he refused to share any of it. Hmmm, why did Tucker suppress this "information"?? Even he didn't want his name associated with this obviously bogus bullshit...
Tucker Carlson Suddenly Says It’s Time to Leave Hunter Biden Alone
Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who has obsessively covered Hunter Biden’s emails since the story exploded in conservative media earlier this month, suddenly said on Thursday night that he didn’t want to be involved with “piling on” Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden’s son.
In recent weeks, following the New York Post reporting on unverified material purportedly obtained from a laptop belonging to Hunter Biden, Carlson has been at the forefront of Fox News’ coverage of the story while accusing the Bidens of corruption.
This includes an exclusive interview with Tony Bobulinski, a former associate of Hunter’s who claims Joe Biden is lying about having no involvement in his son’s Chinese business deals. Numerous outlets, including Fox News’ news division, have reported that a review of corporate records and documents provided by Bobulinski reveals “no role for Joe Biden.”
Carlson, meanwhile, dropped a curious story on Wednesday night apparently introducing a whole new twist in the saga. Hinting at a nefarious plot by Deep State actors, the Fox News star told viewers that “damning” Hunter Biden documents that were shipped to him had “vanished,” adding that it was deeply concerning that such a thing could happen to a “trove of materials that are directly relevant to the presidential campaign that’s six days away.” Later that evening, he told a reporter that “someone’s reading our texts,” implying that he was being spied upon.
By Thursday morning, despite the missing documents being found by shipping company UPS, Carlson continued to hint at malfeasance on the part of unnamed operatives who didn’t want the Biden documents to come out.
After admitting that he had made copies of the documents before they were shipped out, Carlson continued in his conspiratorial vein on Thursday night, questioning UPS’ explanation that the contents of the package—a flash drive containing documents—had been found on Monday night after suffering a rather mundane mishap in which they came out of the package
“How did our flash drive get separated from the package that we sent it in?” Carlson wondered aloud. “That seems like something worth knowing. The envelope was securely sealed, and we know that. UPS does not dispute that. Was a package torn open accidentally by a machine? That seems unlikely and UPS says that almost never happens.”
“So we are left with the obvious explanation: someone for some reason opened our package and removed a flash drive containing documents that were damaging to the Biden family,” he added. “We would love to know who would do that and why.”
But then Carlson suddenly took a step back, noting that they were still “assessing” the documents in question, which he maintained had been verified “to be real” and did not come from Bobulinski. He went on to claim that he has received an “awful lot of documents” about Hunter Biden recently but has “not aired” many of them, insisting he has tried to stick to material involving his business dealings that could relate to his father.
“There are a lot of documents about Hunter Biden’s personal life that we haven’t brought to you and we are not going to and we will tell you why,” he said, noting the obvious reason that Hunter is not running for president.
“But Hunter Biden is a fallen man at this point,” Carlson stated, adding that he once knew the younger Biden well.
“I never thought Hunter Biden was a bad person,” he concluded. “I thought he had demons but in the time I knew him he kept them mostly under control. At some point, he lost control of those demons and the world knows that now. He's now humiliated and alone. Probably too strong to say we feel sorry for Hunter Biden, but the point is pounding on a man, jumping on, and piling on when he's already down is something we don't want to be involved in.”
Interestingly enough, just a couple of hours before Carlson’s broadcast, NBC News reported that a 64-page dossier alleging a complex conspiracy involving Hunter Biden and China was actually authored by a fake persona. The fake intelligence document, which had been floating around the far-right web for a month before the New York Post published a controversial article echoing those conspiracy theories, was eventually disseminated by close associates of the president.
Tucker Carlson Suddenly Says It’s Time to Leave Hunter Biden Alone
Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who has obsessively covered Hunter Biden’s emails since the story exploded in conservative media earlier this month, suddenly said on Thursday night that he didn’t want to be involved with “piling on” Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden’s son.
In recent weeks, following the New York Post reporting on unverified material purportedly obtained from a laptop belonging to Hunter Biden, Carlson has been at the forefront of Fox News’ coverage of the story while accusing the Bidens of corruption.
This includes an exclusive interview with Tony Bobulinski, a former associate of Hunter’s who claims Joe Biden is lying about having no involvement in his son’s Chinese business deals. Numerous outlets, including Fox News’ news division, have reported that a review of corporate records and documents provided by Bobulinski reveals “no role for Joe Biden.”
Carlson, meanwhile, dropped a curious story on Wednesday night apparently introducing a whole new twist in the saga. Hinting at a nefarious plot by Deep State actors, the Fox News star told viewers that “damning” Hunter Biden documents that were shipped to him had “vanished,” adding that it was deeply concerning that such a thing could happen to a “trove of materials that are directly relevant to the presidential campaign that’s six days away.” Later that evening, he told a reporter that “someone’s reading our texts,” implying that he was being spied upon.
By Thursday morning, despite the missing documents being found by shipping company UPS, Carlson continued to hint at malfeasance on the part of unnamed operatives who didn’t want the Biden documents to come out.
After admitting that he had made copies of the documents before they were shipped out, Carlson continued in his conspiratorial vein on Thursday night, questioning UPS’ explanation that the contents of the package—a flash drive containing documents—had been found on Monday night after suffering a rather mundane mishap in which they came out of the package
“How did our flash drive get separated from the package that we sent it in?” Carlson wondered aloud. “That seems like something worth knowing. The envelope was securely sealed, and we know that. UPS does not dispute that. Was a package torn open accidentally by a machine? That seems unlikely and UPS says that almost never happens.”
“So we are left with the obvious explanation: someone for some reason opened our package and removed a flash drive containing documents that were damaging to the Biden family,” he added. “We would love to know who would do that and why.”
But then Carlson suddenly took a step back, noting that they were still “assessing” the documents in question, which he maintained had been verified “to be real” and did not come from Bobulinski. He went on to claim that he has received an “awful lot of documents” about Hunter Biden recently but has “not aired” many of them, insisting he has tried to stick to material involving his business dealings that could relate to his father.
“There are a lot of documents about Hunter Biden’s personal life that we haven’t brought to you and we are not going to and we will tell you why,” he said, noting the obvious reason that Hunter is not running for president.
“But Hunter Biden is a fallen man at this point,” Carlson stated, adding that he once knew the younger Biden well.
“I never thought Hunter Biden was a bad person,” he concluded. “I thought he had demons but in the time I knew him he kept them mostly under control. At some point, he lost control of those demons and the world knows that now. He's now humiliated and alone. Probably too strong to say we feel sorry for Hunter Biden, but the point is pounding on a man, jumping on, and piling on when he's already down is something we don't want to be involved in.”
Interestingly enough, just a couple of hours before Carlson’s broadcast, NBC News reported that a 64-page dossier alleging a complex conspiracy involving Hunter Biden and China was actually authored by a fake persona. The fake intelligence document, which had been floating around the far-right web for a month before the New York Post published a controversial article echoing those conspiracy theories, was eventually disseminated by close associates of the president.
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Or just watch the video...
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Yesterday it was dick pics, now you’re an expert on it
I like the stinky pinky but only up to the first knuckle, I do not want a GD thumb up there--I've told her multiple times and I always catch her when she tries to pull a fast one---it's my butthole for Chrissakes I'm gonna know--so cut out the BS.
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Trump is coming for your guns.
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The Cliffs Notes version is that both Fox (news side, not tabloid evening anchors) and WSJ were first approached by Rudy Guiliani with copies of the emails that he claimed came from Hunter Biden’s laptop, but both of those companies passed on the story over credibility concerns.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news- ... tory-first
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/exclusive-f ... -concerns/
https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news- ... tory-first
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/exclusive-f ... -concerns/
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So Fox News and the Wall Street Journal got this "information," but both of them stopped, sniffed and recoiled. Yet Twitter is now somehow in the "suppression of free speech" camp b/c they didn't want any part of it either....
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Conservatives love to sloganeer about free market capitalism and how bad socialism is, but as soon as capitalist companies won't fight their culture wars for them they want Big Government to step in like mommy to soothe their tantrum...
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The laptop and what Twitter thought about it is irrelevant. They should not be censoring newspapers or government officials. And if anybody in the US government told or advised them to do that, it’s is a crime.
Sure, I could have stayed in the past. I could have even been king. But in my own way, I am king.
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Or even better, you send a bunch of money to Ukraine. Then Ukraine uses that money to invest in the crypto guy. Then the crypto guys turns around donates the money to the Democratic party.
Didn't Ozark pretty much tell this story.
Didn't Ozark pretty much tell this story.
Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.
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I love that legalize drugs, keep the government out of my life Hedge is big on government intervention now to justify his positions.
Free Market capitalism doesn't account for doing the bidding of the communist government, running platforms that run interference on free elections, and now collect private tax information to target ad revenue.
But if you're for that, by all means, please continue to present your side of the story as it relates to sticking it to Trump
you're the poster child for the end justifies the means
I like the stinky pinky but only up to the first knuckle, I do not want a GD thumb up there--I've told her multiple times and I always catch her when she tries to pull a fast one---it's my butthole for Chrissakes I'm gonna know--so cut out the BS.
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"And if anybody in the US government told or advised them to do that, it’s is a crime."
And did they? You'd think we'd have heard about it by now if they had. Meanwhile, Trump directly asks/pressures/orders the Georgia Secretary of State to find him the exact number of votes he needs to carry Georgia, but I don't remember anybody in here complaining about that, much less calling it a crime. Like I said, if it benefits your side (whoever "you" are), you don't give a shit. If it doesn't, you do. Simple as that...
And did they? You'd think we'd have heard about it by now if they had. Meanwhile, Trump directly asks/pressures/orders the Georgia Secretary of State to find him the exact number of votes he needs to carry Georgia, but I don't remember anybody in here complaining about that, much less calling it a crime. Like I said, if it benefits your side (whoever "you" are), you don't give a shit. If it doesn't, you do. Simple as that...
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"I love that legalize drugs, keep the government out of my life Hedge is big on government intervention now to justify his positions."
You say the government is about to "Ma Bell" big tech, and you interpret my response as supporting government intervention?
You say the government is about to "Ma Bell" big tech, and you interpret my response as supporting government intervention?
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well to be fair, "find" doesn't imply manufacture or lie. I think Trump believed there was a bunch of voting nonsense going on there and that he had the votes necessary to legally win, they just weren't being counted.hedge wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:59 pm "And if anybody in the US government told or advised them to do that, it’s is a crime."
And did they? You'd think we'd have heard about it by now if they had. Meanwhile, Trump directly asks/pressures/orders the Georgia Secretary of State to find him the exact number of votes he needs to carry Georgia, but I don't remember anybody in here complaining about that, much less calling it a crime. Like I said, if it benefits your side (whoever "you" are), you don't give a shit. If it doesn't, you do. Simple as that...
You can interpret otherwise and that's fair, but no one on Trumps side is really think of falsifying votes, they are think more about eliminating false votes on the democratic side
I like the stinky pinky but only up to the first knuckle, I do not want a GD thumb up there--I've told her multiple times and I always catch her when she tries to pull a fast one---it's my butthole for Chrissakes I'm gonna know--so cut out the BS.
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oh so you're not for handing over private tax records to help advertising revenues of big tech? You just decided to rant on culture wars for Trump to make exactly what point then?
How about not being so ate up with Trump and Trump supporters that you can look at the information objectively. The Ma Bell statement had nothing to do with Trump or the GOP
I like the stinky pinky but only up to the first knuckle, I do not want a GD thumb up there--I've told her multiple times and I always catch her when she tries to pull a fast one---it's my butthole for Chrissakes I'm gonna know--so cut out the BS.
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E hates football
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"well to be fair, "find" doesn't imply manufacture or lie. I think Trump believed there was a bunch of voting nonsense going on there and that he had the votes necessary to legally win, they just weren't being counted."
Jesus christ man, he asked the Georgia Sec. of State to "find" exactly one more vote than he was losing by. He stated the exact number he wanted him to find that would win him the state by one vote...
Jesus christ man, he asked the Georgia Sec. of State to "find" exactly one more vote than he was losing by. He stated the exact number he wanted him to find that would win him the state by one vote...
I want someone's ass blistered in the middle of Thanksgiving Square.