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[TheBigMook]

Posting direct quotes that are opposite of what BOJ keeps saying. I have not once argued about there being a liberal media bias. I have taken issue with the blatant lies about the report somehow saying that Fox News is centrist, etc.

Is it possible there was more than one study? I'd give 10-1 odds with minimum 1000 dollar bets that for the right money, I could find some fuck wad of a statistician who could "prove" all 4 of The View co-hosts are conservative dem haters.

BOJ even concedes the article I posted was talking about the study he remembered from several years ago (hell the article was from 2005 or 2007, can't remember off the top of my head.)

And I would take that bet in a heartbeat. I could give a shit about the View cunts. Of course the only conservative one is the blonde married to Hasselback (is she still on the show?)

We were discussing the same article/report. My point was that BOJ was describing Fox News (but really, as it state many times it was specifically "Fox News Special Report") as "centrist" because it was in a statistical dead head with 4 other media outlets as the most "centrist", but he was also claiming that 18 of 20 media outlets are "left wing" because the same report said that 18 of 20 outlets scored above 50. Point being, you can't have it both ways. Either Fox News Special report is "right wing" and 18 of the other 20 outlets are "left wing" OR Fox News and 4 other media outlets are "centrist" and 14 of 20 media outlets are left wing and one is right wing. You can say one or the other and I'll let it slide. Not both. Hell, he still would have had a nice rant with 14 of 20, but like all conservatives he was greedy. And a liar.

[puterbac]

NOTE: All wind data is from the NOAA National Buoy Data Center http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/.


When is a hurricane not a hurricane......

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/09/01/t ... more-46492


Well, when it doesn’t blow 64 knots (33 m/sec, 74 mph), because then it’s only a tropical storm. Inspired by a post over at the Cliff Mass Weather Blog, I’ve been trying to find a single report of sustained hurricane force winds anywhere along Irene’s path at or near landfall … no joy. I knew exaggeration was the order of the day for some folks in the climate debate, but I hadn’t realized that the illness had infected the Weather Service itself.

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[TheBigMook]

The Jim Lehrer News Hour is PBS' nightly program.

Damn liberal public media!

[GBJs]

Posting direct quotes that are opposite of what BOJ keeps saying. I have not once argued about there being a liberal media bias. I have taken issue with the blatant lies about the report somehow saying that Fox News is centrist, etc.

Is it possible there was more than one study? I'd give 10-1 odds with minimum 1000 dollar bets that for the right money, I could find some fuck wad of a statistician who could "prove" all 4 of The View co-hosts are conservative dem haters.

BOJ even concedes the article I posted was talking about the study he remembered from several years ago (hell the article was from 2005 or 2007, can't remember off the top of my head.)

And I would take that bet in a heartbeat. I could give a shit about the View cunts. Of course the only conservative one is the blonde married to Hasselback (is she still on the show?)

We were discussing the same article/report. My point was that BOJ was describing Fox News (but really, as it state many times it was specifically "Fox News Special Report") as "centrist" because it was in a statistical dead head with 4 other media outlets as the most "centrist", but he was also claiming that 18 of 20 media outlets are "left wing" because the same report said that 18 of 20 outlets scored above 50. Point being, you can't have it both ways. Either Fox News Special report is "right wing" and 18 of the other 20 outlets are "left wing" OR Fox News and 4 other media outlets are "centrist" and 14 of 20 media outlets are left wing and one is right wing. You can say one or the other and I'll let it slide. Not both. Hell, he still would have had a nice rant with 14 of 20, but like all conservatives he was greedy. And a liar.

Remember Mook, I said for the right money, I could get some fuck wad of a statistician who could "prove"... You have to realize statisticians are the worst of all liars, using numbers prove the point of the highest bidder. They're right up there with lawyers.

[GBJs]

What I'm more concerned with is the disappearance of Prof? He was supposed to tell me if I work for "relatively" low wages????

[TheBigMook]

However, my point still stands, you guys whine and cry about Fox and its closer to center, more centrist, than any of the traditional media of CBS, NBC, ABC. I did include CNN in my origional post, and it is more center than CNN, but I don't find in that study where they graded CNN's 5pm show.

Here's the post/quote from me.

1) Specifically talked about the Cincy Enquirer dingalings. If you don't think the Cincy Enquirer spins right, then you don't think MSNBC spins left.

2) I wasn't even talking about the early Biden stuff. Spin there was slight if any. I was pointing to the gentle to not-so-gentle spin they put on the Obama health care speech to the Clinton speech. I mean, at that point in the story, what they were trying to get across was that big name folks have occasionally spoken at the picnic. All they had to do was list the years they spoke and general context. The Enquirer's spin was bringing up the tidbits of spin they tagged on to those stories.

Like I said, its not as obvious as Fox News, but its always there, even in what should be non-political stories. This leaves out the editorials/letters to the editors they choose to publish.

The problem with your "not as obvous as Fox news" thing is that Fox has been proven to be more central than any of the other news outlets.

In other words they are the LEAST biased of them all, that's ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, all of them are more to the left than Fox is to the right.

UCLA did the study.

So, I said the Cincy Enquirer is spins right. I compared its spin to Fox News. You agree that Fox News is right of center. You could have left it at that, but instead you decided to get on your high horse (mispelling a quote attributed to me along the way) about those bastard liberal medias... which had nothing to do with the main point of my statement, that the Cincy Enquirer (a paper which I am sure you are intimately familiar with and read daily) is right leaning. Gotcha.

[TheBigMook]

So, GBJ, you are saying that given enough money you could bribe someone to lie for you to win a bet.

Congrats on your brilliant discovery.

[Big Orange Junky]

[/quote]So, I said the Cincy Enquirer is spins right. I compared its spin to Fox News. You agree that Fox News is right of center. You could have left it at that, but instead you decided to get on your high horse (mispelling a quote attributed to me along the way) about those bastard liberal medias... which had nothing to do with the main point of my statement, that the Cincy Enquirer (a paper which I am sure you are intimately familiar with and read daily) is right leaning. Gotcha.[/quote]

Don't get your panties in a wad about the mispelling. It's a function of 2 things. 1 I can't spell, period and it wasn't intentional. 2. My keyboard is screwed up too but most of the time, 90% or better it's just the fact that I can't spell. Anybody that has posted with me over 2 weeks will tell you that. Don't take offense it wasn't intentional.

[TheBigMook]

Honestly, I didn't care. I mean, I could manufacture some outrage about how you were trying to defame my intelligence, but hell, I didn't even notice it until you quoted it again.

[Big Orange Junky]

Cool. Hang around long enough and you will see me spell the same word 3 or 4 different ways and maybe one of them will be right but maybe not LOL.

[GBJs]

So, GBJ, you are saying that given enough money you could bribe someone to lie for you to win a bet.

Congrats on your brilliant discovery.

That's my point about statisticians. They don't give a fuck what the question is, they'll ask enough people on a sidewalk the same question until they have enough answers they are being paid to come up with.

Liar...you can see right through 'em

Damn Liar...get you every once in a while and you're not sure what to believe

Statistician...see above.

[bluetick]

Nutsack Green could coach circles around Buzz. And my whole den is stacked with data that'll back me up.

[sardis]

Romney in USAToday...today.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/fo ... 50265720/1

[Professor Tiger]

Romney in USAToday...today.

I know this article is what Romney says. But we are all left to wonder what Romney ACTUALLY believes. That's anybody's guess.

[sardis]

Such spewing of hatred...I fear for their lives!

http://mrctv.org/videos/video-game-allo ... ll-oreilly

[10ac]

Bloomberg said Gay’s death was “a senseless murder and another painful reminder, I think, of what happens when elected officials in Washington fail to take the problem of illegal guns seriously.”

Damn straight! Time to outlaw illegal guns!

[Big Orange Junky]

Bloomberg said Gay’s death was “a senseless murder and another painful reminder, I think, of what happens when elected officials in Washington fail to take the problem of illegal guns seriously.”

Damn straight! Time to outlaw illegal guns!

[SuperGator]

I like Fox business. They've got whack jobs from both sides and they get to argue issues out from both perspectives. They even have some good business news thrown in there to boot.

[Professor Tiger]

As the Emperor of the Nanny State of New York, it's amusing that Bloomberg is technically a Republican.

[Dr. Strangelove]

I see several Republicans refuse to attend Obama's speech before the joint Congress. And they are not deigning to even give a rebuttal speech afterwards. Most prominent is chief crackpot of the Republican Party, Paul Braun of Georgia. One of his pet projects was a bill to ban the sale of porn to our troops, an act which should be considered treasonable to any true red-blooded American

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.5821: