Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

[bluetick]

We know from Dotard's own lips that employment numbers cannot be believed. But nevertheless:

Real wages Index April 2018 https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/realer.pdf dropped 0.01 pct

2018 Forecast: Smaller Real Wage Forecast in U.S. and globally https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/ ... lobal.aspx

https://hbr.org/2017/10/why-wages-arent ... in-america

Why We Are Doomed: Stagnant Wages https://seekingalpha.com/article/410361 ... nant-wages

[bluetick]

Peace be upon George Will (did I say that right, prof?):

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... 2846fb285a

Donald Trump, with his feral cunning, knew. The oleaginous Mike Pence, with his talent for toadyism and appetite for obsequiousness, could, Trump knew, become America’s most repulsive public figure. And Pence, who has reached this pinnacle by dethroning his benefactor, is augmenting the public stock of useful knowledge. Because his is the authentic voice of today’s lickspittle Republican Party, he clarifies this year’s elections: Vote Republican to ratify groveling as governing.

oleaginous!

[Professor Tiger]

It’s using cool words like “oleaginous” that keeps peace upon George Will. Some of his other favorite words over the past 30 years include “meritricious” and “quixotic” an lugubrious.”

One of his many wonderful quotes applies perfectly to the Trump-Russia investigation: “For conservatives, seeing is believing. For liberals, believing is seeing.”

He still gets my lifetime achievement award.

[Cletus]

America’s economy continues to boom under Trump, after 8 years of malaise under Obama: Today’s numbers:

US records largest ever monthly budget surplus in April as individual tax receipts boom.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-re ... 2018-05-10

Inflation softer than expected in April

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/consu ... 2018-05-10

New US jobless claims cling to near 49 year low

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/new-u ... 2018-05-10

For the first time ever, there’s a job opening for every unemployed worker

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/for-t ... 2018-05-08

Meanwhile, Mueller is rummaging through Stormy Daniels’ drawers and sniffing her underthings, looking for Russian collusion.

You don't read the articles behind the links, do you?

[Professor Tiger]

Yes. All of them.

Cletus, what part of...

CNN poll: Democrats' 2018 advantage is nearly gone

Poll: Majority says Russia probe is politically motivated

US records largest ever monthly budget surplus in April as individual tax receipts boom.

Inflation softer than expected in April

New US jobless claims cling to near 49 year low

For the first time ever, there’s a job opening for every unemployed worker

...and ESPECIALLY...

A New Report Raises Big Questions About Last Year’s DNC Hack

... do you seem to have trouble understanding? Those are the headlines. That is what they say. There is nothing buried in those stories that make those devastating headlines disappear, as much as you wished that they did.

[Tree]

America’s economy continues to boom under Trump, after 8 years of malaise under Obama: Today’s numbers:

US records largest ever monthly budget surplus in April as individual tax receipts boom.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-re ... 2018-05-10


Inflation softer than expected in April

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/consu ... 2018-05-10


New US jobless claims cling to near 49 year low

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/new-u ... 2018-05-10


For the first time ever, there’s a job opening for every unemployed worker

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/for-t ... 2018-05-08


Meanwhile, Mueller is rummaging through Stormy Daniels’ drawers and sniffing her underthings, looking for Russian collusion.

It's like watching a precious little puppy lapping up the propaganda. Trump's daily clown show is keeping everyone distracted while the radical insurgency we call the GOP is systematically removing the remaining facets of government that serve the American people. I challenge you to go through those links again and find me a single metric that actually points to the lot of American people being improved. How many decent paying jobs with good benefits and job security have been created? Any regulations passed that are going to fix "too big to fail?" Which new policies are going to help fix the absurd wealth disparities that we're seeing? We're going the other way. Corporate power is being concentrated even more at a time when we needed another Teddy Roosevelt to come in and break up the trusts. The billionaires are nutting in their pants at their new ability to steal wealth from the masses, which is why we're seeing stock markets and GDP going up.

[Professor Tiger]

I challenge you to go through those links again and find me a single metric that actually points to the lot of American people being improved.

I'll take that challenge. Here's a metric:

New US jobless claims cling to near 49 year low

Tree, this metric means fewer needed unemployment insurance payments. That means more people kept and/or found jobs. People keeping and especially finding jobs is an improvement in the lot of the American people. And people now keeping and finding jobs is a goooood thing. Can you say, "gooooood thing," Tree?

It sure beats 8 years under Obama's economy where more and more people were applying for unemployment insurance payments. In those bad old days, that meant more and more people were losing their jobs. People losing their jobs was a baaaaaaaad thing for the lot of the American people. Can you say, "baaaaaad thing, Tree?

Here's another metric:

For the first time ever, there’s a job opening for every unemployed worker

Tree, this means that there's a job opening for every unemployed worker. That means that the Trump economy is producing so many new job openings that it is now extremely possible for a person who is unemployed, but is seeking a job, to find a job. And people now able to find jobs is a gooooood thing. Can you say, "gooooood thing," Tree? This is a YUGE improvement over the 8 years of the Obama economy, where there were there were FAR more unemployed people looking for jobs than there were jobs to be found. Still with me? Okay. Millions of people looking for work, but not being able to find work was a baaaaaaaad thing. Can you say, "baaaaaad" thing," Tree?

Good. I knew you could. You get a participation trophy, so nobody gets their feelings hurt.

And you liberals think you are the smart ones... sheeeeesh...

[Tree]

The job gains started under Obama, just like the inflation drop that the right likes to give Reagan credit for actually started under Carter. It's funny how I called you out on regurgitating Trump administration propaganda and instead of providing the metrics I asked for you double down on the lies and spin. Record percentage of folks below or near the poverty line. Some of the most absurd wealth disparities the US has ever known. Everyone getting poorer but the top fraction of a percent for decades. And what is Trump doing to fix any of this? Well there was the big wealth giveaway to the super rich that will probably bankrupt us. That's something I guess.

[Professor Tiger]

I provided you metrics. You just ignored them because they embarrass you. Don't you wish that when the economic statistics showed...

US records largest ever monthly budget surplus in April as individual tax receipts boom.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-re ... 2018-05-10

Inflation softer than expected in April

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/consu ... 2018-05-10

New US jobless claims cling to near 49 year low

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/new-u ... 2018-05-10

For the first time ever, there’s a job opening for every unemployed worker

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/for-t ... 2018-05-08

...they were talking about Obama's economy and not Trump's? And wasn't the whole US economy supposed to be in a Great Depression 2.0 after a year under Trump?

[bluetick]

Nobody could figure out why Donnie did an about-face on the China tariff regarding cellphones. His tweet Sunday about working with Xi and bringing jobs back TO CHINA....even his supporters were asking "what the fuck?"

But then today we learn

China Contributing 500 Million to Trump Resort in Indonesia - National Review May15 2018
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/chi ... indonesia/

[Jungle Rat]

DOH!

[Jungle Rat]

Mrs. Grump is hospitalized because of depression and a manic breakdown

Wake up morons

[bluetick]

Could be depression. But "kidney condition" could also be complications from her whoring husband who never wore a condom.

[Professor Tiger]

Heh

Y’all have run out of kitchen sinks to throw at Trump, so now you’re reduced to slinging sponges and ladles.

Cracks me up...

[Professor Tiger]

“40 years ago, in one of his secret underground bio-labs, Trump created HIV in order kill black people”

#TDSGazette

[bluetick]

Notice how prof won't touch the Trump-China quid pro quo.

And btw, National Review broke the story that the Chinese government was kicking in 500 million. Now the AP follows that with the news that Chinese banks are also coming with 500 mil - Xi is now in for a cool BILLION.

Our military and intelligence agencies were against ZTE for security reasons. Donnie brought them back simply for the dough. Oh..and to bring back Chinese jobs.

[Tree]

Nobody could figure out why Donnie did an about-face on the China tariff regarding cellphones. His tweet Sunday about working with Xi and bringing jobs back TO CHINA....even his supporters were asking "what the fuck?"

But then today we learn

China Contributing 500 Million to Trump Resort in Indonesia - National Review May15 2018
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/chi ... indonesia/

Instead of draining the swamp he's filling it with toxic waste. This piece of shit needs to be removed ASAP. I'll even take scumbag Pence over this level of international corruption.

[Professor Tiger]

Oh I'll joyfully touch this silly imaginary "quid pro quo."

First, like all Presidents,Trump's business dealing are in a blind trust. He has nothing to do with them while in office. I believe Junior is running the show right now. You do realize that it is a perfectly normal thing for a worldwide international business like Trump's to operate worldwide and internationally, right? So if Junior swings a business deal with the Chinese, or the Europeans, or the Arabs, or even - THE RUSSIANS!!! - there is nothing out of the ordinary about that. I hope Junior brings in a billion yuan.

Second, remember these REAL cases of a political quid pro quos?

The Clinton Foundation's 7 Worst Scandals

1. When Hillary Clinton was sworn in as secretary of state, she was required to sign a document stating she would keep the State Department independent from the Clinton Foundation. She was also required to disclose the Clinton Foundation's donors. Needless to say, Clinton did not follow this agreement, as is made clear below.

2. A newly unearthed memo reveals that the Clinton Foundation was nothing more than a vessel for the Clintons to get rich. The memo, written in 2011 by a Doug Band, a confidant of Bill Clinton, explained how Band used his consulting firm Teneo to encourage people to donate to the Clinton Foundation... The report is such an obvious example of corruption that even leftist reporter Chris Cillizza had to admit the obvious: "If this isn't a textbook example of buying access, I don't know what is [link fixed]https://t.co/OPs4JZtFd1"

3. Numerous companies donated to the Clinton Foundation and then lobbied the State Department with lobbyists who were connected to the Clintons. A USA Today report poured through data from the Center for Responsive Politics and financial records to determine that "at least a dozen of those same companies lobbied the State Department, using lobbyists who doubled as major Clinton campaign fundraisers."

4. Hillary's State Department emboldened Russia through Clinton Foundation quid pro quos. Peter Schweizer, author of Clinton Cash, wrote in the Wall Street Journal that as secretary of state, Clinton corralled U.S. tech companies -- including those who were donors to the Clinton Foundation -- to provide funding to Skolkovo, which was dubbed "Russia’s version of Silicon Valley." Here's the problem with all this: Skolkovo is funded by the Russian government, which has utilized the "innovation city" to enhance their military technology and steal classified information from the U.S.... Clinton's State Department approved the sale of Uranium One to essentially be under the control of the Russian government. The deal allowed the Russian government to be in control of at least 20 percent of the U.S.'s uranium output, with some estimates putting it as high as 50 percent. Uranium One had donated $2.6 million to the Clinton Foundation.

5. Hillary's State Department approved arms deals to countries with poor human rights records. As the Daily Wire reported previously, the State Department "approved of '$165 billion worth of commercial arms sales to 20 nations whose governments have given money to the Clinton Foundation,' including 'Algeria, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates, Oman and Qatar, according to International Business Times."

6. The Clintons scammed the people of Haiti after devastating natural disasters to enrich Clinton Foundation donors. The Daily Wire reports: A $10 million federal loan went to InnoVida, a manufacturing firm run by Clinton donor Claudio Osorio, to build houses in Haiti. Osorio plead "guilty to wire fraud and money laundering in 2013" when it was discovered that Osorio used company money to "to pay for his Miami Beach mansion, his Maserati, and his Colorado ski chalet." He never built the houses in Haiti. "Hundreds of millions in taxpayer money" went to building the Caracol Industrial Park, which naturally, was run by Clinton cronies. Caracol today is mostly "abandoned," failing to produce the number of jobs and homes that Bill Clinton promised. Contracts from the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) went to Dalberg Global Development Advisors, a consulting firm that has donated to the Clinton Foundation, in order "to identify relocation sites for Haitians." However, Dalberg reportedly thought that "uninhabitable mountains with steep ravines" would suffice as relocation sites, suggesting that they "did a terrible job."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/10280/cl ... on-bandler

If Hillary's career of shamelessly using her public position for massive private gain didn't bother you, then Donald Junior's doing a bang up job running his father's international companies in his father's absence doesn't bother me.

[hedge]

"First, like all Presidents,Trump's business dealing are in a blind trust. He has nothing to do with them while in office."

I didn't think even you were dumb enough to believe that...

[Professor Tiger]

This piece of shit needs to be removed ASAP.

Ahhh, but he's not going to be removed. That's the beauty of it. Your next chance to remove Trump will be November, 2020. That's 2 and 1/2 years from now. We're not even to the halfway point of his first term yet. Think of all the yuge things Trump will continue to do as he makes America great again in the remaining time. And the more the Democrats continue their current TDS obsession and histrionics, the more popular Trump will become. The redder the Midwest will become. Then your next chance to remove Trump will be 2024.