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[bluetick]

The rising strength and potential impact of the hurricanes in the Atlantic basin has weather experts concerned, as global temperatures continuing to hit record highs. Global warming, which isn’t necessarily causing the formation of hurricanes, is almost certainly magnifying their intensity and potential for destruction.

Climate change is making hurricanes more powerful for longer periods of time. They need the energy from the warm, humid air above tropical oceans to keep up their strength. A hurricane begins as a tropical storm, when winds coming from different directions converge. Warm air rises around the storm’s center and cools, and the moisture condenses to form clouds and rain. Condensation releases latent heat, which powers hurricanes. If the layer of warm water isn’t at least 200 feet deep, a tropical storm could die before gaining hurricane strength.

[crashcourse]

https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/top10.asp

not exactly a stat that supports a growth in the strength/number of hurricanes via the ticker gore theory

this will be the second cat 4 we have this year. that has happened many times before

unfortunately it jus happens to be hitting at a perfect angle and in 2 of our bigger cities

[bluetick]

I read a headline that said 3 hurricanes making landfall at the same time is a first in recorded histoire. And one of the three is the biggest ever recorded in the Atlantic. Do people think these weather scientists are making stuff up?

And the "American" model of Irma's path that was forecasted days ago looks to be right on the money. USA! USA! USA!

[Cletus]

I read a headline that said 3 hurricanes making landfall at the same time is a first in recorded histoire. And one of the three is the biggest ever recorded in the Atlantic. Do people think these weather scientists are making stuff up?

And the "American" model of Irma's path that was forecasted days ago looks to be right on the money. USA! USA! USA!

Well, the word hoax is used a lot...

[bluetick]

hoaxers and hoars the lot of 'em, bygot

[Professor Tiger]

Trump and Putin are using a secret Russian weather manipulation machine to cause these hurricanes.

[hedge]

That's not a secret, klaatu was onto that years ago...

[Professor Tiger]

The rising strength and potential impact of the hurricanes in the Atlantic basin has weather experts concerned, as global temperatures continuing to hit record highs. Global warming, which isn’t necessarily causing the formation of hurricanes, is almost certainly magnifying their intensity and potential for destruction.

Climate change is making hurricanes more powerful for longer periods of time. They need the energy from the warm, humid air above tropical oceans to keep up their strength. A hurricane begins as a tropical storm, when winds coming from different directions converge. Warm air rises around the storm’s center and cools, and the moisture condenses to form clouds and rain. Condensation releases latent heat, which powers hurricanes. If the layer of warm water isn’t at least 200 feet deep, a tropical storm could die before gaining hurricane strength.

According to the chart below, AGW peaked out in the late 1800's, 1940's and 1950's, and plunged in this decade:

Climatological statistics

Period Number of recorded storms affecting United States
1850s 17
1860s 15
1870s 19
1880s 25
1890s 20
1900–09 17
1910s 21
1920s 15
1930s 18
1940s 23
1950s 20
1960s 15
1970s 12
1980s 17
1990s 15
2000–09 19
2010s 7

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U ... hurricanes

[Professor Tiger]

If you want to look at the intensity of hurricanes over time, here is a list of the 10 most powerful hurricanes to hit the US:

CHICAGO (CBS) — Based on pressure, here are the 10 strongest hurricanes to hit the mainland United States.

Based on its current strength, Hurricane Irma, which is currently on track to hit Florida this weekend, would rank No. 3.

1) Florida (Keys) 1935, 26.35 inches
2) Camille (Miss., Louisiana), 1969, 26.84
(Irma, 2017, 26.99*)
3) Katrina (Louisiana, Miss.) 2005, 27.17
4) Andrew (Florida, Louisiana) 1992, 27.23
5) Texas (Indianola), 1886, 27.31
6) Florida (Keys, Texas), 1919, 27.37
7) Florida (Lake Okeechobee), 1928, 27.43
8) Donna (Florida, Eastern Coast), 1960 27.46
9) Florida (Miami, Miss., LA) 1926, 27.46
10) Carla (Texas) 1961, 27.49

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/09/06/ ... anes-ever/

The most powerful hurricanes have been hitting the US LOOOONG before AGW doomsday-ism came along.

[bluetick]

:::ahem:::: recorded storms affecting the United States

oohh baby baby, it's a wide world
-Muhammed Stevens

[bluetick]

Assuming prof believes a hurricane exists even if it didn't slam into A-mur-ka:


Seasons with the most named storms, 1851 - Present

Rank

Year

Number of Storms


1. 2005 28
2. 1933 20
3. 2012 19
3. 2011 19
3. 2010 19
3. 1995 19
3. 1887 19
8. 1969 18
9. 2008 16
9. 2003 16
9. 1936 16
12. 2007 15
13. 2004 15
14. 2001 15
15. 2000 15

looks like 4 of the last 5 are VERY recent, AGWise

[bluetick]

And what about them hurricanes happenin' on ta' other side of the planet?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... tudy-finds

The destructive power of the typhoons that wreak havoc across China, Japan, Korea and the Philippines has intensified by 50% in the past 40 years due to warming seas, a new study has found.

The researchers warn that global warming will lead the giant storms to become even stronger in the future, threatening the large and growing coastal populations of those nations.

“It is a very, very substantial increase,” said Prof Wei Mei, at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, who led the new work. “We believe the results are very important for east Asian countries because of the huge populations in these areas. People should be aware of the increase in typhoon intensity because when they make landfall these can cause much more damage.”

Typhoons can have devastating impacts in east Asia. In 2013, typhoon Haiyan hit the Philippines, killing at least 6,300 people and affecting 11 million. Typhoon Nina struck China in 1975, dumping 100cm of rain in a day and leading to 229,000 deaths and 6m destroyed buildings. Last week typhoon Lionrock left 11 people dead in northern Japan and caused power blackouts and property damage, while in July typhoon Nepartak hit Taiwan and China, killing at least nine people and leaving a trail of destruction.

[Professor Tiger]

:::ahem:::: recorded storms affecting the United States

oohh baby baby, it's a wide world
-Muhammed Stevens

Mmkay: Records for intensity:

List of tropical cyclone records

Most intense (lowest central pressure)
Typhoon Tip in northwest Pacific Ocean
870 mb (hPa) (25.69 inHg) October 12, 1979

Highest wind gusts
Cyclone Olivia in Barrow Island, Western Australia, Australia
113 m/s (253 mph, 220 kt, 408 km/h) April 10, 1996

Highest storm surge
Cyclone Mahina in Bathurst Bay, Queensland, Australia
14.5 m (48 ft) March 5, 1899

Highest overall rainfall
Cyclone Hyacinthe in Reunion Island
6,083 mm (239.5 in) January 14 – 28, 1980

Frequency:

Highest number of tropical storms in a season
39 official and 1 unofficial storms during the 1964 Pacific typhoon season May 12 – December 17, 1964

The science is settled.

[Cletus]

Wilt Chamberlain scored 100 points in a game in 1962 and nobody has ever done better. Therefore, the average level of play in the NBA has not improved over the past 50 years.

[hedge]

He's not going to understand what you're getting at there...

[10ac]

I lived through Donna.

[hedge]

Donna Krebs?

[Tree]

The rising strength and potential impact of the hurricanes in the Atlantic basin has weather experts concerned, as global temperatures continuing to hit record highs. Global warming, which isn’t necessarily causing the formation of hurricanes, is almost certainly magnifying their intensity and potential for destruction.

Climate change is making hurricanes more powerful for longer periods of time. They need the energy from the warm, humid air above tropical oceans to keep up their strength. A hurricane begins as a tropical storm, when winds coming from different directions converge. Warm air rises around the storm’s center and cools, and the moisture condenses to form clouds and rain. Condensation releases latent heat, which powers hurricanes. If the layer of warm water isn’t at least 200 feet deep, a tropical storm could die before gaining hurricane strength.

You should check out Christian Parenti. He ties climate change in with a very astute look at the big picture of global politics since the end of the cold war. An investigative journalist/intellectual hybrid. Definitely a dying breed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNDh3IO_VKI&app=desktop

[Professor Tiger]

With a first name like that, I'm surprised you like him.

[puterbac]

16 years ago...

CardiNole - Sep 11, 2001 1:13 pm (#22092 of 209412)
Yes, I miss FSU football, NY Giants football, and Cardinals baseball. Fire Tony La Russa, Tom Coughlin, and Bobby Bowden.
News here is reporting 2 planes crashing into 2 of the towers at the World Trade Center...




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Volmillion - Sep 11, 2001 1:19 pm (#22093 of 209412)
I swear on the Black Stone
The footage is awful.




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Pale - Sep 11, 2001 1:23 pm (#22094 of 209412)
Your 2002 SEC & 2003 Sugar Bowl Champion Georgia Bulldogs.
United Airlines is reporting two planes hijacked earlier this morning...




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Regelbuck - Sep 11, 2001 1:26 pm (#22095 of 209412)
unfucking real!!!

747 type plane hijacked crashed into one and then another military plane crashed into the other...total catastrophy!!

pictures look unreal!!!!!




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billy bob bocephus - Sep 11, 2001 1:26 pm (#22096 of 209412)
back from the shadows again, out where an Indian's your friend, where you can pee in a stream (and that's important my friend), yes we're back from the shadows again...
apparently there have been two planes crash into the Twin Towers ( one into each tower)of the World Trade Center. TV news is getting the story out better than any of the .com news centers.




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wildcat00 - Sep 11, 2001 1:27 pm (#22097 of 209412)
Shaddup!
I'm listening on the radio...

Just unbelievable...




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Dr. Strangelove - Sep 11, 2001 1:28 pm (#22098 of 209412)
WWAVC approved
Edited by Sep 11, 2001 6:28 am
None of the dot-com news sites are working for me, what's going on????

Pale - Sep 11, 2001 1:30 pm (#22099 of 209412)
Your 2002 SEC & 2003 Sugar Bowl Champion Georgia Bulldogs.
I'm sure they're swamped by everyone and their mother...

Bush is speaking live on the radio.




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wildcat00 - Sep 11, 2001 1:31 pm (#22100 of 209412)
Shaddup!
Not working for me either...

It looks like it's probably something terrorist related...

The buildings are on fire...I hope everyone makes it out ok.




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Pale - Sep 11, 2001 1:33 pm (#22101 of 209412)
Your 2002 SEC & 2003 Sugar Bowl Champion Georgia Bulldogs.
Bush's remarks short and to the point: Act of terrorism. Prayers to victims and their families. We will hunt down whoever is responsible.




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Dr. Strangelove - Sep 11, 2001 1:34 pm (#22102 of 209412)
WWAVC approved
Jesus Christ...




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AugustWest - Sep 11, 2001 1:34 pm (#22103 of 209412)
The truth of love an unsung song must tell The course of love must follow blind without a look behind
jesus. this is horrible. any word on casualties yet? I cant get TV or radio.




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Pale - Sep 11, 2001 1:35 pm (#22104 of 209412)
Your 2002 SEC & 2003 Sugar Bowl Champion Georgia Bulldogs.
What the fuck kind of people are there in this world to think that something like this can possibly be justified in any conceivable way?




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RU4FSU'91 - Sep 11, 2001 1:38 pm (#22105 of 209412)
<-----Mad Skillz
Holy Jesus, I am watching the live footage of the first crash, then the second one hits...LIVE!!!!!




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CardiNole - Sep 11, 2001 1:38 pm (#22106 of 209412)
Yes, I miss FSU football, NY Giants football, and Cardinals baseball. Fire Tony La Russa, Tom Coughlin, and Bobby Bowden.
Nothing yet. I'm watching here at work and any victim/survivor info is still sketchy.




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RU4FSU'91 - Sep 11, 2001 1:40 pm (#22107 of 209412)
<-----Mad Skillz
I will say this, that building can withstand anything, after seeing this. It basically has a hole right through it, yet the top is intact......thousands are presumed dead, remember thats "presumed".




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Clashmore Mike - Sep 11, 2001 1:40 pm (#22108 of 209412)
THE HELL WITH MICHIGAN
Can anyone get coverage on-line???

Not that ya'll's commentary isn't world class.....




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RU4FSU'91 - Sep 11, 2001 1:41 pm (#22109 of 209412)
<-----Mad Skillz
Nope, I tried all the major news sites, and they aren't working.

RU4FSU'91 - Sep 11, 2001 1:42 pm (#22110 of 209412)
<-----Mad Skillz
Now there is a unconfirmed report of an explosion at the Pentagon.




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The Talent - Sep 11, 2001 1:42 pm (#22111 of 209412)
The Suckhio State Suckeyes are the Suckiest Bunch of Sucks That Ever Sucked. We Suck.
Holy fuckin' shit.

Our NY offices are in the World Trade Center.




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Regelbuck - Sep 11, 2001 1:42 pm (#22112 of 209412)
I'm hearing that one of the buildings are buckling..

NY is shut down...mahantan sealed off...us fighter planes in the sky...

Only Pearl Harbor can rival this....




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wildcat00 - Sep 11, 2001 1:42 pm (#22113 of 209412)
Shaddup!
Oh my god...thousands??? Jesus...

I just don't understand terrorism...

If you have a cause you believe in, how does killing innocent people bring you positive publicity...

Morons...




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Regelbuck - Sep 11, 2001 1:43 pm (#22114 of 209412)
White House and Pentagone being evacuated!!!




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Regelbuck - Sep 11, 2001 1:43 pm (#22115 of 209412)
Sharp shooters on roof of Whitehouse




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Regelbuck - Sep 11, 2001 1:44 pm (#22116 of 209412)
Another explosion at Pentagon!!!!!!!!!!




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Pale - Sep 11, 2001 1:44 pm (#22117 of 209412)
Your 2002 SEC & 2003 Sugar Bowl Champion Georgia Bulldogs.
Are we approaching a state of war?




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CardiNole - Sep 11, 2001 1:44 pm (#22118 of 209412)
Yes, I miss FSU football, NY Giants football, and Cardinals baseball. Fire Tony La Russa, Tom Coughlin, and Bobby Bowden.
They just hit the Pentagon!!




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Regelbuck - Sep 11, 2001 1:44 pm (#22119 of 209412)
FUCK!

my sister-in-law works there...fucking shitheads




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wildcat00 - Sep 11, 2001 1:45 pm (#22120 of 209412)
Shaddup!
Oh my god...what the fuck is going on?

Somebody just bombed the Pentagon? OMG...
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