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Post by Professor Tiger » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:31 pm

Johnette's Daddy wrote:
Professor Tiger wrote:Thomas Jefferson LOVED black people. One in particular.
Loved her enough to keep her children as slaves until he died.
Yeah, but the descendants of Sally Hemings are now invited to the Jefferson family reunions, so they're all square right?

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Post by sardis » Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:37 am

Professor Tiger wrote:Just saw this (a little late - sorry). Hysterical. Chappell and Rock reacted the same way my black friends did.

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That was good. "Y'all acting like you're going to be picking your own strawberries or something."

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Post by bluetick » Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:18 pm

My wife and I each have a Wed night class of inner-city youths; hers are elementary girls, mine are middle school boys, nearly all minority kids. We've spent some time the last two Weds reassuring them that things are going to be alright under President Trump. Just an old white guy trying to positive-spin the prospects of another old white guy, if you will. Things you never consider.. ..
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Post by 10ac » Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:57 pm

Assholes like you scaring the kids. You ought to be ashamed.
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Post by bluetick » Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:01 pm

I kinda feel bad when the cards come out at recess. Kids can't bluff for squat.
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Post by Professor Tiger » Fri Nov 18, 2016 8:42 am

bluetick wrote:My wife and I each have a Wed night class of inner-city youths; hers are elementary girls, mine are middle school boys, nearly all minority kids. ..
Good for you. Keep up the good work. Those poor kids have been led to believe that they will be in chains after the inauguration.

As an aside, I didn't know that Rock City TN had minority kids.
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Post by Toemeesleather » Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:25 am

More good news.....


(CNN) Geologists say a new survey shows an oilfield in west Texas dwarfs others found so far in the United States, according to the US Geological Survey.

The Midland Basin of the Wolfcamp Shale area in the Permian Basin is now estimated to have 20 billion barrels of oil and 1.6 billion barrels of natural gas, according to a new assessment by the USGS.
That makes it three times larger than the assessment of the oil in the mammoth Bakken formation in North Dakota.
The estimate would make the oilfield, which encompasses the cities of Lubbock and Midland -- 118 miles apart -- the largest "continuous oil" discovery in the United States, according to the USGS.
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Post by bluetick » Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:56 am

The good news for OK is the new oilfield was found TX

Experts Eye Oil and Gas Industry as Quakes Shake Oklahoma - NYT Dec 12, 2013...then a few hundred similar studies appeared, which finally led to..
Oklahoma Puts Limits on Oil and Gas Wells to Fight Quakes - AP March 7,2016

and in todays NYT.. In Canada, a Direct Link Between Fracking and Earthquakes - NYT Nov 17, 2016
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Post by 10ac » Fri Nov 18, 2016 11:15 am

It’s not just the Cabinet: Trump’s transition team needs to find nearly 4,000 appointees
Does that include the travel office?
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Post by Professor Tiger » Fri Nov 18, 2016 11:51 am

There's nothing in West Texas. If this fabulous new oil discovery leads to massive local earthquakes, nobody will notice or care. The coyotes and the lizards might get some free entertainment.

If this discovery, plus a new president that lets us drill it, means that we can finally tell the whole Middle East to fornicate with camels, then I'm all for it.
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Post by Toemeesleather » Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:01 pm

Yes, these 2.5, 2.9, 3.0 (after shocks to the sane) quakes have people fleeing for their lives out of OK.


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Post by hedge » Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:11 pm

I wish you would flee for your life, and fail...
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Post by bluetick » Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:22 pm

Substantial Damage After 5.0 Earthquake Rattles Major Oklahoma Oil Hub - Fox News http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/07/da ... ahoma.html

meanwhile toe lights a candle for another sparrow cut down by a terrorist windturbine
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Post by Toemeesleather » Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:44 pm

Keep Pelosi!!!lll
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Post by Professor Tiger » Sat Nov 19, 2016 12:18 am

Mitt Romney for the Ambassador to North Korea. Or maybe Syria.
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Post by Toemeesleather » Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:10 am

If you want to see politics based on emotionalism over reason and a borderline-religious devotion to an iconic figure, forget the Trump Army; look instead to the Cult of Clinton.

Ever since Donald Trump won the presidential election, all eyes, and wringing hands, have been on the white blob who voted for him. These "loud, illiterate and credulous people," as a sap at Salon brands them, think on an "emotional level." Bill Moyers warned that ours is a "dark age of unreason," in which "low information" folks are lining up behind "The Trump Emotion Machine." Andrew Sullivan said Trump supporters relate to him as a "cult leader fused with the idea of the nation."

What's funny about this is not simply that it's the biggest chattering-class hissy fit of the 21st century so far — and chattering-class hissy fits are always funny. It's that whatever you think of Trump (I'm not a fan) or his supporters (I think they're mostly normal, good people), the fact is they've got nothing on the Clinton cult when it comes to creepy, pious worship of a politician.

By the Cult of Hillary Clinton, I don't mean the nearly 62 million Americans who voted for her. I have not one doubt that they are as mixed and normal a bag of people as the Trumpites are. No, I mean the Hillary machine—the celebs and activists and hacks who were so devoted to getting her elected and who have spent the past week sobbing and moaning over her loss. These people exhibit cult-like behavior far more than any Trump cheerer I've come across.

Trump supporters view their man as a leader "fused with the idea of the nation"? Perhaps some do, but at least they don't see him as "light itself." That's how Clinton was described in the subhead of a piece for Lena Dunham's Lenny Letter. "Maybe [Clinton] is more than a president," gushed writer Virginia Heffernan. "Maybe she is an idea, a world-historical heroine, light itself," Nothing this nutty has been said by any of Trump's media fanboys.

"Hillary is Athena," Heffernan continued, adding that "Hillary did everything right in this campaign… She cannot be faulted, criticized, or analyzed for even one more second."

That's a key cry of the Cult of Hillary (as it is among followers of L. Ron Hubbard or devotees of Christ): our gal is beyond criticism, beyond the sober and technical analysis of mere humans. Michael Moore, in his movie Trumpland, looked out at his audience and, with voice breaking, said: "Maybe Hillary could be our Pope Francis."

Or consider Kate McKinnon's post-election opening bit on SNL, in which she played Clinton as a pantsuited angel at a piano singing Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah," her voice almost cracking as she sang: "I told the truth, I didn't come to fool ya." Just imagine if some right-leaning Christian celeb (are there any?) had dolled up as Trump-as-godhead and sang praises to him. It would have been the source of East Coast mirth for years to come. But SNL's Hallelujah for Hillary was seen as perfectly normal.

As with all saints and prophets, all human manifestations of light itself, the problem is never with them, but with us. We mortals are not worthy of Hillary. "Hillary didn't fail us, we failed her," asserted a writer for the Guardian. The press, and by extension the rest of us, "crucified her," claimed someone at Bustle. We always do that to messiahs, assholes that we are.

And of course the light of Hillary had to be guarded against blasphemy. Truly did the Cult of Hillary seek to put her beyond "analysis for even one more second." All that stuff about her emails and Libya was pseudo-scandal, inventions of her aspiring slayers, they told us again and again and again.

As Thomas Frank says, the insistence that Hillary was scandal-free had a blasphemy-deflecting feel to it. The message was that "Hillary was virtually without flaws… a peerless leader clad in saintly white… a caring benefactor of women and children." Mother Teresa in a pantsuit, basically. As a result, wrote Frank, "the act of opening a newspaper started to feel like tuning in to a Cold War propaganda station."

Then there was the reaction to Clinton's loss. It just wasn't normal chattering-class behavior. Of course we expect weeping, wailing videos from the likes of Miley Cyrus and Perez Hilton about how Clinton had been robbed of her moment of glory; that's what celebs do these days. But in the media, too, there was hysteria.

"'I feel hated,' I tell my husband, sobbing in front of the TV in my yoga pants and Hillary sweatshirt, holding my bare neck," said a feminist in the Guardian. Crying was a major theme. A British feminist recalled all the "Clinton-related crying" she had done: "I've cried at the pantsuit flashmob, your Saturday Night Live appearance, and sometimes just while watching the debates." (Wonder if she cried over the women killed as a result of Hillary's machinations in Libya? Probably not. In the mind of the Hillary cultists, that didn't happen—it is utterly spurious, a blasphemy.)

Then there was Lena Dunham, who came out in hives—actual hives—when she heard Clinton had lost. Her party dress "felt tight and itchy." She "ached in the places that make me a woman." I understand being upset and angry at your candidate's loss, but this is something different; this is what happens, not when a politician does badly, but when your savior, your Athena, "light itself," is extinguished. The grief is understandable only in the context of the apocalyptic faith they had put in Hillary. Not since Princess Diana kicked the bucket can I remember such a strange, misplaced belief in one woman, and such a weird, post-modern response to someone's demise (and Clinton isn't even dead! She just lost!).

It's all incredibly revealing. What it points to is a mainstream, Democratic left that is so bereft of ideas and so disconnected from everyday people that it ends up pursuing an utterly substance-free politics of emotion and feeling and doesn't even realize it's doing it. They are good, everyone else is bad; they are light itself, everyone else is darkness; and so no self-awareness can exist and no self-criticism can be entertained. Not for even one second, in Heffernan's words. The Cult of Hillary Clinton is the clearest manifestation yet of the 21st-century problem of life in the political echo chamber.

Mercifully, some mea culpas are now emerging. Some, though not enough, realize that Hillaryites behaved rashly and with unreason. In a brilliant piece titled "The unbearable smugness of the liberal media," Will Rahn recounts how the media allowed itself to become the earthly instrument of Clinton's cause, obsessed with finding out how to make Middle Americans "stop worshiping their false god and accept our gospel."

Indeed. And the failure to make the gospel of Hillary into the actual book of America points to the one good thing about Trump's victory: a willingness among ordinary people to blaspheme against saints, to reject phony saviors, and to sniff at the new secular religion of hollow progressiveness. The liberal political and media establishment offered the little people a supposedly flawless, Francis-like figure of uncommon goodness, and the little people called bullshit on it. That is epic and beautiful, even if nothing else in recent weeks has been.
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White Nationalists Celebrate 'an Awakening' After Donald Trump's Victory - NYTimes 11/20/2016

In the bowels of the Ronald Reagan Building and International Trade Center, three blocks form the White House, members of the so-called alt-right movement gathered for what they thought would be an autopsy to plot their grim future under a Clinton administration. Instead, they celebrated the unexpected march of their white nationalist ideas toward the mainstream, portraying Mr.Trump's win as validation that the tide had turned in their fight to preserve white culture.

"It's been an awakening," Richard B. Spencer, who is credited with coining the term alt-right, said at the gathering on Saturday. "This is what a successful movement looks like." The movement has been critical of politicians of all stripes for promoting diversity, immigration and perceived political correctness. Its critics call it a rebranded version of the Ku Klux Klan, promoting anti-Semitism, violence and suppression of minorities.

Intellectual leaders of the movement argue that they are merely trying to realize their desire for a white "ethno-state" where they can be left alone. Mr. Trump, with his divisive language about immigrants and Muslims, has given them hope that these dreams can come true.

"I never thought we would get to this point, any point close to mainstream acceptance or political influence," said Matt Forney, 28, of Chicago. "The culture is moving more in my direction."

Emboldened by Mr. Trump's takeover of the Republican Party, Mr. Forney said he expected people openly associated with the white nationalist movement to run as candidates in the 2018 midterm elections. The rise of populism and the decline of political correctness, he said, present a rare opportunity
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Post by bluetick » Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:45 am

Unlike some of Trump's other business interests, Trump University wasn't a franchise operation or an arm's-length marketing arrangement that merely used his name. It was a Trump-owned company run out of the headquarters of the Trumps organization, at 40 Wall Street, in Manhattan, and it netted him about five million dollars in profit. According to Schneiderman's lawsuit, both Trump and one of his senior executives, Michael Sexton, were "personally and knowingly involved with the operations of Trump University, with Sexton taking an active role in the company's conduct, and Trump personally approving each of the misleading advertisements it published."

One of these ads, for a costly three-day seminar, described Trump as "the most celebrated entrepreneur on earth," and said, "He's ready to share --with Americans like you--the Trump process for investing in today's once-in-a-lifetime real estate market." And yet, although Trump approved the company's ads, he didn't attend the seminars or even review the curricula and programming materials used in them. Trump University ads also claimed that Trump had hand-picked the tutors of the courses. This turned out to be a lie. In a sworn affidavit filed in one of the California cases, a former salesman for Trump University, Ronald Schnackenberg, said, "Based upon my personal experience and employment, I believe that Trump University was a fraudulent scheme and that it preyed upon the elderly and uneducated to separate them from their money."
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Post by Toemeesleather » Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:07 pm

Oh my, this racism thing must be bigger that even I thought!!


We took a state-by-state look of lost seats from the best source available, the National Conference of State Legislatures. Using the group’s data, we compared the number of Democratic seats in early 2009, when Obama took office, to the number of seats after the 2014 midterms.

The bottom line: Republicans now control about 56 percent of the country’s 7,383 state legislative seats, up 12 percentage points since 2009.

Thirty-five states posted double-digit seat losses for the Democrats in state legislatures, including more than 50 seats each in Arkansas, New Hampshire and West Virginia.



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