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[Johnette's Daddy]

In conclusion:

Cubs win - Hillary wins; Trump sues, Ryan quits, markets tumble, Mosul falls, markets rebound, Comey quits, 2016 ends

Comey won't quit. He'll get fired and become a conservative icon/Fox News talking head.

Trump will launch Trump TV - which will fail shortly after he loses the child rape civil suit and before he loses the Trump University suit.

Eric Trump will run for something safe and win.

GOP survives but in two distinct wings, led by Kasich & Trey Gowdy, respectively.

[Professor Tiger]

Huma will be found in Ft Marcie Park.

Hillary will pardon herself.

[Johnette's Daddy]

Huma will be found in Ft Marcie Park.

Hillary will pardon herself.

It'd make more sense if you posted "Anthony Weiner will be found in Ft. Marcie Park."

[Professor Tiger]

If there was classified information, or un-turned over Hillary emails on the Wiener family's sexting computer, it wasn't Carlos Danger who put them there.

Huma's last name is not Clinton, so she is still subject to laws governing the handling of classified material, or withholding/destroying subpeona'd documents. Huma knows where the bodies are buried. If somehow she is credibly threatened with jail time unless she spills the beans on Hillary, she will become a mortal threat to the PAH. That can get you in Ft Marcie Park in a hurry.

[Johnette's Daddy]

If there was classified information, or un-turned over Hillary emails on the Wiener family's sexting computer, it wasn't Carlos Danger who put them there.

Huma's last name is not Clinton, so she is still subject to laws governing the handling of classified material, or withholding/destroying subpeona'd documents. Huma knows where the bodies are buried. If somehow she is credibly threatened with jail time unless she spills the beans on Hillary, she will become a mortal threat to the PAH. That can get you in Ft Marcie Park in a hurry.

Ordinarily I would note this as too ludicrous to respond too, but I'm not doing much today, so I will respond:

The emails are nothing. Stop it.

Even if she personally forwarded every single one of them to Putin while simultaneously giving Kim Jong Un head, they're still nothing.

I know that there is white, hot hatred of HRC by wings of the GOP. I get it. But there's enough real stuff you can hate her for without making up stuff for which to hate her.

[Professor Tiger]

I would have thought the mere mention of Ft. Marcie Park would have tipped you off that post was mostly tongue-in-cheek. Sorta like previous banter about Janet Reno being Chelsea's real father, the Cubs victory causing hedge to become Catholic, you to vote Republican, etc. Relax.

That said, the emails are not nothing. They are the anchor that Hillary has been lugging around for the past year. They are the reason she isn't beating the Orange One soundly.

The latest email stuff is so much not nothing in the polls that RCP just changed CO, VA and PA to tossups. They are the reason your guy Nate Silver just increased Trump's chance of winning from 15% to 30%.

[bluetick]

That said, the emails are not nothing. They are the anchor that Hillary has been lugging around for the past year. They are the reason she isn't beating the Orange One soundly.

The latest email stuff is so much not nothing in the polls that RCP just changed CO, VA and PA to tossups. They are the reason your guy Nate Silver just increased Trump's chance of winning from 15% to 30%.

She has never been accused of emailing classified government documents. Classified documents aren't 'emailable.' People tend to lose sight of that very basic fact. Plans for a new missile site in Japan can't be copied, pasted, or forwarded to your favorite uncle.

She...and her three Secretary of State predecessors, and over 200 other State Dept. employees and diplomats, have been investigated for sending emails that speak of information deemed to be classified. HRC swears she's never received or shared information online she knew to be classified at the time she received it, and that's the case with 200+ other SD employees. One diplomat got clearance for his own words used in a department correspondence so he could put it in his autobiography...and after the book was published that content was given a classified designation. Making those classified calls is a highly subjective process, and over-classification is the bane of the foreign services branch. People who claim "Watergate" and high crimes and misdemeanors are crazy (or duplicitous).

[sardis]

If Trump wins, tick will be bleeding out of his...whatever.

[AlabamAlum]

A classified documement, the actual piece of paper can't be emailed, but confidential information and emails with the CONFIDENTIAL heading or paragraphs preceded by a (C) can be, and were, emailed - and even without the CLASSIFIED heading or the (C), one can send information they shouldn't. There can be no doubt that she sent some emails that had sensitive, classified info within. Now, was there any info that was emailed that would cause 'grievous harm' to the interests of the United States? No. Not yet anyway.

On a larger note, Hillary is ethically deficient and will be a horrible president. She will be better than Trump, though. It is a crying shame that we have to choose between the lesser of two pathologies for POTUS. But that's what we're faced with. I will hold my nose and vote for the PAH this time and pray to Zeus that the R's and D's nominate someone, anyone better.

I said it before. It still holds. I would vote Obama for a third term, or Kerry, Mitt, and a dozen others before either of these nominees.

[hedge]

Pretty much any other candidate in the republican primary would probably win this thing in a landslide. They would've made the whole focus of this campaign Hillary's email shenannigans as well as the Clinton Foundation's pay for play schemes, and rightly so. They wouldn't have allowed almost the entire focus to be on the boneheaded bullshit that Trump by his very nature has opened the door to. Unbelievable that the repubs let a virtual lock on the White House get away from them in such a manner as this. Not saying Trump can't win this thing, but the odds are against him and it didn't have to come down to this for the repubs...

[Professor Tiger]

Gary Johnson!

[Johnette's Daddy]

'The FBI is Trumpland': anti-Clinton atmosphere spurred leaks, sources say
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... nald-trump

The currently serving FBI agent said Clinton is “the antichrist personified to a large swath of FBI personnel,” and that “the reason why they’re leaking is they’re pro-Trump.”

The agent called the bureau “Trumplandia”, with some colleagues openly discussing voting for a GOP nominee who has garnered unprecedented condemnation from the party’s national security wing and who has pledged to jail Clinton if elected.

[Professor Tiger]

Some officials at State and Justice were sending insider information to Podesta, tipping him off about the investigation of his boss. The Attorney General secretly met with Bill Clinton on a tarmac to inform him of the decision not to prosecute his wife.

If the FBI is Trumpland, then State and DOJ are the People's Republic of Hillary.

Gary Johnson!

[bluetick]

If Trump wins, tick will be bleeding out of his...whatever.

heh

[Professor Tiger]

I don't think Trump will win. And if he does, I will start building my fallout shelter and buying gold.

But if Trump wins, watching CNN and MSNBC report it would be a priceless silver lining. On Morning Joe, Donnie Deutsch was practically cutting himself and supplicating the God he doesn't believe in to spare the Republic from The Orange One.

[AlabamAlum]

Forget gold. Canned or irradiated goods, hydroponic set-ups with viable seeds, a water purification system, solar panels and wind turbines, antibiotics, first aid supplies, general sugery, and basic mechanical repair books, and, of course, guns and ammo. Learning to use a cross or compound bow for when the ammo runs out will be helpful too.

[Professor Tiger]

I've got a farm with a well, so food and water shouldn't be a problem. I've got guns and ammo, although I would need a lot more ammo. But I would need to stock up on all the other items you listed.

But it's all moot. Hillary will win in a close one.

I'd also like to revise and extend my previous post. I would love to watch the National Review and all the GOP Establishment people report a Trump win at least as much as watching CNN and MSNBC.

[AlabamAlum]

You need to get a water purifucation system for the well. You can make it yourself with a large plastic barrel, some sand, and rocks.

/doomsday trumpers

[Professor Tiger]

Why would I need a purification system for a well? It has been providing drinking water since the 30's without one.

We should be discussing the implications of the much more likely Hillary win. You're an atheist, so you don't have anything to worry about. But we traditional Christians must prepare for the forthcoming Ministry of Truth, Bureau of Theological Compliance, Sector Enforcement Strike Force.

[AlabamAlum]

You have to assume pollutants in the water table in a time of war. And get some potassium iodine pills for the irradiation.