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[Cletus]

hard to believe nationwide trump is only down 4 to Hillary after all his missteps and blustering.

if he does well in the first debates he has a good chance to steal this election



http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

He had zero chance to win this election.

[Johnette's Daddy]

hard to believe nationwide trump is only down 4 to Hillary after all his missteps and blustering.

if he does well in the first debates he has a good chance to steal this election



http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

That would be true if:
1 - we had direct election of Presidents, and
2 - RCP didn't feature polls with a right wing slant.

Because we don't, the polls you need to look at are swing states: http://www.politico.com/2016-election/swing-states

Trump is getting beaten in all of them - and by a yuge margin in several.

The one that should make the GOP quake is http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... -5741.html

Hillary leading (by a nose) in the RCP average in Georgia.

If Trump makes an ass of himself in the 1st debate (a more likely occurrence than him winning it), Hillary could end up taking back the Senate AND get the House close enough to where they'd have to work with her.

Hillary is in striking distance in SC, GA & MO. If she takes those AND sweeps FL, OH, VA, IA, CO, MI, NV, NH, NC, AZ, PA & WI . . . the GOP might as well disband.

[Professor Tiger]

He has zero chance to win this election.

Correct. National polls are irrelevant. If they were relevant, Al Gore would have been president.

If you look at all the toss-states (e.g. FL, GA, NC, VA, PA, OH), Trump needs to win nearly all of them to get to 270 electoral votes. He can get some of them, but all of them? No way.

[Johnette's Daddy]

Looking at the RCP polling average, it's intriguing that the poll that brings down the average is the LA Times/USC Poll. When most of the polls have Hillary up 5 to 10 points, LAT/USC has it tied nationally. Last month, LAT/USC had Trump +7 when almost every other poll had Clinton +5 or more (Fox had her +10).

[Jungle Rat]

Trump ain't winning ya fools. It's just not going to happen.

[Professor Tiger]

I don't think anybody around here is seriously contesting that.

All of us conservatives are at different stages of the Kubler-Ross continuum.

[Johnette's Daddy]

I don't think anybody around here is seriously contesting that.

All of us conservatives are at different stages of the Kubler-Ross continuum.

For my wife, the last stage is shopping.

[Owlman]

shopping is ok. That's only eyes. Buying is the potential problem

[Professor Tiger]

As long as the shopping is not at a bar.

[sardis]

In an attempt to color Donald Trump racist, CNN themselves make a racist move.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/m ... synonymous

[Johnette's Daddy]

In an attempt to color Donald Trump racist, CNN themselves make a racist move.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/m ... synonymous

Oh yes, the old "he's not a racist but what are you?" trick.

CNN doesn't have to "color" Trump racist. He - or at least his appeal - is racist and he's playing the most divisive race-baiting politics ever seen in America, which says a whole lot!

[hedge]

I suspect there have been far more race-baiting politics seen in America than what Trump is peddling...

[Jungle Rat]

Not since the nation finally grew up.

[bluetick]

In an attempt to color Donald Trump racist, CNN themselves make a racist move.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/m ... synonymous

BS. Everyone** knows the backstory of GOP voter suppression of blacks. So it's a yuge irony when Trump begs for black votes while simultaneously spouting another tactic to disenfranchise a segment of the black citizenry.

**excepting low-information/low-education Trump supporters

[Jungle Rat]

It would be better if Orange Man played his cards in front of a black contingent instead of a 90% white crowd. But it's Trump. At this point you have to expect the stupidity

[Professor Tiger]

Everyone should remember that, nowadays, the word "racist" has come to mean "anything liberals don't like." Even the words "All lives matter" are racist.

[Johnette's Daddy]

Everyone should remember that, nowadays, the word "racist" has come to mean "anything liberals don't like." Even the words "All lives matter" are racist.

Virginia KKK Leader Endorses Trump: ‘What He Believes In, We Believe In’
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/r ... nald-trump

White supremacists say they have “unrequited love” for Donald Trump
http://qz.com/592366/white-supremacists ... ald-trump/

The White Nationalists Who Support Donald Trump
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/white-na ... d=37524610

[10ac]

If the media wants to focus on the racism of the presidential candidates, why are they ignoring these 10 prime examples:

#1 – In 1974, after Bill Clinton lost his bid for a Senate seat, Hillary lashed out at campaign manager Paul Fray calling him a, “f*cking Jew bastard!” This outburst was witnessed and confirmed by 3 people, so it definitely happened.

#2 – As First Lady, Hillary called young black men “super-predators” indicating that she thought all young black males were violent criminals. She also said, “We have to bring them to heel,” like young blacks are the same as dogs. Despite thinking this was incredibly racist, blacks still support Hillary.

#3 – While serving in the US Senate, Hillary tried to make a joke that disparaged a civil rights icon and demeaned all people from India. “I love this quote. It’s from Mahatma Gandhi. He ran a gas station down in St. Louis for a couple of years. Mr. Gandhi, do you still go to the gas station?” asked Clinton.

#4 – In 2005 Hillary said, “I am adamantly against illegal immigrants.” She also, as a Senator, voted to construct a wall between the US and Mexico. Considering the main “proof” of Trump’s racism is that he opposes illegal immigration and wants to build a wall, isn’t it odd that Hillary gets off for having said the same thing?

#5 – During the 2008 democratic primaries Hillary Clinton’s campaign started the “birther” rumors, questioning Obama’s US citizenship. They even circulated the now famous picture of Obama in full Muslim garb. Somehow Trump’s campaign to get Obama to release his birth certificate is racist, but Hillary’s role in starting the birther movement is not.

#6 – Also during the 2008 presidential race, Hillary’s husband Bill said this of Obama: “A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee.” Hillary didn’t say this one but her husband did and she certainly never disavowed it.

#7 – Shortly after announcing her candidacy, Hillary said “all lives matter” in a black church. I don’t think this one is racist, but lefties, black activists, and Hillary herself all do, so it makes the list. Plus as is the case with most of this stuff, if Trump had said it liberals would freak the hell out.

#8 – In November of 2015, Hillary called people in this country illegally “illegal aliens.” Trump is a racist when he says “illegal aliens,” why isn’t Hillary?

#9 – In April of this year, Hillary joined NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio on stage at a democratic fundraiser for a scripted joke about how lazy black people are. The two liberals made reference to “colored people’s time” which is a super-racist way of saying black people are chronically tardy and lethargic.

#10 – April was a great month for Hillary’s racism, as she also made a comment disparaging Native Americans. She said she had experience dealing with wild men when they “get off the reservation.” In essence she said Native Americans are savages who must be segregated from the rest of society.

[Professor Tiger]

Everyone should remember that, nowadays, the word "racist" has come to mean "anything liberals don't like." Even the words "All lives matter" are racist.

Virginia KKK Leader Endorses Trump: ‘What He Believes In, We Believe In’
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/r ... nald-trump

White supremacists say they have “unrequited love” for Donald Trump
http://qz.com/592366/white-supremacists ... ald-trump/

The White Nationalists Who Support Donald Trump
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/white-na ... d=37524610

I'm sure there are plenty of communists, Maoists, and Stalinists who support Hillary, but that doesn't make her a communist, Maoist or Stalinist. Candidates aren't responsible for the loonies who like them.

PS: Since you hate the Klan so much (and rightly so), why were you okay with having a former Grand Wizard as the Democrat Majority Leader of the Senate? He wasn't admired by individual Klansmen, he WAS a Klansman!

[Professor Tiger]

The sitting Democrat Senate Majority Leader talks about "white niggers":

[youtube]PnO6ai0Ktro[/youtube]

Nary a peep about that.