Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

[hedge]

Don't worry, you'll be dead soon enough...

[Professor Tiger]

Land. Gold. Guns.

Our best hope in the forthcoming PAH economy.

[Cletus]

There is no way Chicago has nearly 10 million residents. They have to be counting outlying areas and suburbs.

The MSA is 9-10 million people.

[Jungle Rat]

Scrool....scrool again...repeat...

Fucking morons

[aTm]

Conservative policies? Austin? Austin is very, very liberal. The type of place where its illegal for stores to have paper or plastic bags and you have to buy the fucking homer bucket from home depot just to carry your shit home.

[Professor Tiger]

Conservative policies? Austin? Austin is very, very liberal. The type of place where its illegal for stores to have paper or plastic bags and you have to buy the fucking homer bucket from home depot just to carry your shit home.

I know Austin is socially very liberal. But the discussion is about conservative vs liberal economics. Austin's explosive growth has a lot to do with its business-friendly environment - low taxes (i.e. no state income tax), fiscal sanity, few regulations (apparently except in the paper/plastic bag sector), no unions, etc.

California lost 9,000 business HQs and expansions, mostly to Texas, 7-year study says


For now, here are some highlights:

Texas ranked as the top state to which businesses migrated, followed by: (2) Nevada, (3) Arizona, (4) Colorado, (5) Washington, (6) Oregon, (7) North Carolina, (8) Florida, (9) Georgia and (10) Virginia. Texas was the top destination for California companies each year during the seven-year study period.

Metro areas benefiting from California disinvestment events, starting with those that gained the most, are: (1) Austin-Round Rock-San Marcos, (2) Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, (3) Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, (4) Reno-Sparks, (5) Las Vegas-Paradise, (6) Portland-Vancouver (WA)-Hillsboro, (7) Denver-Aurora-Lakewood, (8) Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, (9) Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta and (10) Salt Lake City tied with San Antonio.

Broken down to the municipal level, the Top 15, starting with those that gained the most, are: (1) Austin, (2) Reno, (3) Las Vegas, (4) Seattle, (5) Phoenix, (6) Dallas, (7) Portland, Ore. (8) San Antonio, (9) Denver, (10) Scottsdale, (11) Houston, (12) Colorado Springs, (13) Irving, Texas, Plano, and Texas, Hillsboro, Ore. tied, (14) Fort Worth and Tempe, Ariz. tied, (15) Pittsburgh, Nashville, Salt Lake City, and Cary N.C. tied.

Los Angeles led the Top 15 California counties with the highest number of disinvestment events, followed by: (2) Orange, (3) Santa Clara, (4) San Francisco, (5) San Diego, (6) Alameda, (7) San Mateo, (8) Ventura, (9) Sacramento, (10) Riverside, (11) San Bernardino, (12) Contra Costa tied with Santa Barbara, (13) San Joaquin, (14) Stanislaus and (15) Sonoma.

Companies continue to leave California because of rising costs and concerns over the state’s “hostile” business environment, according to the study,

http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/blog/ ... sions.html

[hedge]

I wish you had an explosive growth of hemorrhoids...

[Professor Tiger]

Why aren't businesses and people moving from Texas to California? Or Florida to New Jersey? Or Arizona to Illinois?

People are voting on your socialist workers' paradises with their feet.

[Cletus]

It seems strange that a place that is so hostile to business is also the home of the greatest innovation in human history. How did companies like Google, Intel, Apple, Oracle, Uber, the entire entertainment industry, Amgen, Genetech, etc, etc, etc ever mange to get past the startup stage?

[Professor Tiger]

They are all run by liberal Democrats who donate accordingly and generously to their party and all liberal causes. Therefore, they get a pass.

But if and when Texas turns purple, all the Big Oil companies had better pay massive extortion, or they will face federal eradication like like Virginia tobacco farmers did, or West Virginia coal miners are now.

[Owlman]

People have been fleeing liberal Utopias like Detroit, Chicago, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Los Angeles, because the deplorable economic conditions caused by progressive policies. They have been moving to places like Austin, Phoenix, Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill, and Northern VA, because those places have so much better economic conditions caused by conservative policies.

Now, after a mass exodus of refugees from liberal economics, those places where they found refuge are turning purple-to-blue, and will soon have the same high taxes, massive regulations, mandatory tithes to climate change goddesses, etc that created the economic cesspools they fled in the first place.

Austin conservative? Not at all

[Owlman]

Conservative politics versus liberal politics? Have you looked at Kansas and Louisiana who both went maximum conservative economic theory?

[Professor Tiger]

WSJ confirms what was already obvious - that the Obama administration paid ransom to Iran in return for hostages.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.wsj.com/ ... 1471469256

Brazil has taken notice. They are now keeping US Olympic swimmers on some trumped up investigation.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html

I wonder how much Obama will pay Rio in ransom to get our swimmers back.

[hedge]

I know how much ransom I'd pay to get you back if you'd been kidnapped by hostile forces...

[Professor Tiger]

C

[Toemeesleather]

Have you looked at Kansas and Louisiana who both went maximum conservative economic theory?

Worse than Detroit, OMG!

[Toemeesleather]

By almost every metric, Illinois' population is sharply declining, largely because residents are fleeing the state. The Tribune surveyed dozens of former residents who've left within the last five years, and each offered their own list of reasons for doing so. Common reasons include high taxes, the state budget stalemate, crime, the unemployment rate and the weather. Census data released Thursday suggest the root of the problem is in the Chicago metropolitan area, which in 2015 saw its first population decline since at least 1990.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loca ... story.html

[Toemeesleather]

38 Wisconsin 5,686,986 5,771,337 +1.48%
41 Mississippi 2,967,297 2,992,333 +0.84%
40 New Hampshire 1,316,470 1,330,608 +1.07%
42 Pennsylvania 12,702,379 12,802,503 +0.79%
44 Connecticut 3,574,097 3,590,886 +0.47%
43 Ohio 11,536,504 11,613,423 +0.67%
47 Illinois 12,830,632 12,859,995 +0.23%
45 Michigan 9,883,640 9,922,576 +0.39%
46 Rhode Island 1,052,567 1,056,298 +0.35%
48 Maine 1,328,361 1,329,328 +0.07%
49 Vermont 625,741 626,042 +0.05%
50 West Virginia 1,852,994 1,844,128 −0.48%

Change in pop last 15 yrs.

[Cletus]

By almost every metric, Illinois' population is sharply declining, largely because residents are fleeing the state. The Tribune surveyed dozens of former residents who've left within the last five years, and each offered their own list of reasons for doing so. Common reasons include high taxes, the state budget stalemate, crime, the unemployment rate and the weather. Census data released Thursday suggest the root of the problem is in the Chicago metropolitan area, which in 2015 saw its first population decline since at least 1990.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loca ... story.html

Toe, what do you think that chart is saying? Do you think the population is sharply declining?

[Owlman]

Have you looked at Kansas and Louisiana who both went maximum conservative economic theory?

Worse than Detroit, OMG!

Let's see, a state versus a city? Yeah, worse.