Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

[sardis]

How liberals really feel about our independence...

http://www.vox.com/2015/7/2/8884885/ame ... on-mistake

[Johnette's Daddy]

That was some robust historical revisionism combined with paranoid conspiracy theory right there, JD.

Why did you post a pro-Sanders article? I thought you were "Ready for Hillary." Are you now feeling the Bern?

Perspective. Those of you in the flyover states are so indoctrinated by Beck/Breitbart/Limbaugh that you are out of touch with how America's 55% Democratic majority thinks. Position-wise, I was feeling the Bern, but from a practical standpoint, the guy was a Socialist 18 months ago, he's 75 years old and lacks the balls to stand up to the gun lobby, so there was no way I'd vote for him over an established Democrat.

[Professor Tiger]

If you really want to live in a country where Bernie's Socialist policies are already the law of the land, have you considered moving to Venezuela? I hear it's working great down there.

[Professor Tiger]

Speaking of those of us living in flyover country, here is the one-and-only Ron Swanson. He is my hero and role model.

[youtube]VK4kQF6Zu6w[/youtube]

[Professor Tiger]

While the 55% Democrats pee themselves about gun control, here's what the 45% non-Democrats in flyover country are doing:

http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/12/news/co ... -shooting/

[bluetick]

Orlando was yuge for gun sales and gun maker stocks no doubt, but that classroom full of dead kids is still the gold standard, prof. Do you agree?

[Professor Tiger]

It's the very vocal desire of the Dem's to nullify the second amendment, not the body count, that is driving the gun rush and NRA membership boom.

Although, all the people who recently went out and bought guns just put themselves on a federal database, which will just make it easier when the attempted confiscations start. Anybody with a hunting license or NRA membership is on that database too.

[hedge]

"So the Attorney General, the nation's top law enforcement officer, has a secret private meeting with Bill Clinton"

If it was so secret, how did you find out about it?

[AlabamAlum]

He logged onto Hillary's gmail account.

[Professor Tiger]

"So the Attorney General, the nation's top law enforcement officer, has a secret private meeting with Bill Clinton"

If it was so secret, how did you find out about it?

It was leaked to a local reporter. That reporter will soon be audited by the IRS and wind up on the terrorist no fly list.

[Professor Tiger]

60 shot, including 2 children killed, in Chicago on July 4:

https://www.google.com/amp/wgntv.com/20 ... ekend/amp/#

1. Will BLM descend upon Chicago for a mass protest against the violent ending of black lives on an industrial scale?
2. Chicago and Illinois have some of the strictest gun control laws in the US. So why isn't Chicago the safest city in the US?

[bluetick]

Although, all the people who recently went out and bought guns just put themselves on a federal database, which will just make it easier when the attempted confiscations start.

Are you thinking martial law now or after the Olympics?

[BigRedMan]

60 shot, including 2 children killed, in Chicago on July 4:

https://www.google.com/amp/wgntv.com/20 ... ekend/amp/#

1. Will BLM descend upon Chicago for a mass protest against the violent ending of black lives on an industrial scale?
2. Chicago and Illinois have some of the strictest gun control laws in the US. So why isn't Chicago the safest city in the US?

1. Only if "The Man" is speaking and their is an opportunity to harass "The Man" and they can get a few more followers on Twitter and Facebook.

2. "The Man"

[Professor Tiger]

Although, all the people who recently went out and bought guns just put themselves on a federal database, which will just make it easier when the attempted confiscations start.

Are you thinking martial law now or after the Olympics?

No martial law until they start the confiscations and see the reaction.

[bluetick]

No martial law until they start the confiscations and see the reaction.

Dean Smith approves of that notion.

Prof,

hello

[Professor Tiger]

I never expected Hillary to get indicted for the multiple felonies she obviously committed with her email scheme. After all, the FBI works for the DOJ, which works for the Democrats these days.

But it was sad to see Comey and the once-proud FBI shamelessly declare themselves as the Clintons' official bitches today. Sad indeed.

[Johnette's Daddy]

60 shot, including 2 children killed, in Chicago on July 4:

https://www.google.com/amp/wgntv.com/20 ... ekend/amp/#

1. Will BLM descend upon Chicago for a mass protest against the violent ending of black lives on an industrial scale?
2. Chicago and Illinois have some of the strictest gun control laws in the US. So why isn't Chicago the safest city in the US?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/fath ... e-40344334

What main element do these two stories have in common?

[Johnette's Daddy]

I never expected Hillary to get indicted for the multiple felonies she obviously committed with her email scheme. After all, the FBI works for the DOJ, which works for the Democrats these days.

But it was sad to see Comey and the once-proud FBI shamelessly declare themselves as the Clintons' official bitches today. Sad indeed.

Internet hyperbole aside, what would you charge her with - felonious carelessness with email by a senior citizen? Shoot, arrest my mom, too, then. You guys act like she's Ethel Rosenberg, giving the H-Bomb plans to Russia.

Nothing on her server was classified while she was in office and most of the stuff that was post-facto classified was classified for political reasons, not national security.

OK, the Russkies found out from Hillary that Obama didn't really care for David Cameron. Well, gee, it's not like they ccouldn't have read The Guardian and figured out the same thing.

[Professor Tiger]

Internet hyperbole aside, what would you charge her with - felonious carelessness with email by a senior citizen?

What part of...

18 US Code 1924

(a) Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.
(b) For purposes of this section, the provision of documents and materials to the Congress shall not constitute an offense under subsection (a).
(c) In this section, the term “classified information of the United States” means information originated, owned, or possessed by the United States Government concerning the national defense or foreign relations of the United States that has been determined pursuant to law or Executive order to require protection against unauthorized disclosure in the interests of national security.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1924
Hi. I'm Bluetick, and I approved this website

...do you, or Comey, not understand?

Nothing on her server was classified while she was in office

Wrong:

Separately, it is important to say something about the marking of classified information. Only a very small number of the e-mails containing classified information bore markings indicating the presence of classified information. But even if information is not marked “classified” in an e-mail, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press ... ail-system

Hi. I'm Bluetick, and I approved this website too

and most of the stuff that was post-facto classified was classified for political reasons, not national security.

If Hillary's emails retroactively classified, then it was her own State Department that classified them:

Where an e-mail was assessed as possibly containing classified information, the FBI referred the e-mail to any U.S. government agency that was a likely “owner” of information in the e-mail, so that agency could make a determination as to whether the e-mail contained classified information at the time it was sent or received, or whether there was reason to classify the e-mail now, even if its content was not classified at the time it was sent (that is the process sometimes referred to as “up-classifying”).

From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press ... ail-system

OK, the Russkies found out from Hillary that Obama didn't really care for David Cameron. Well, gee, it's not like they couldn't have read The Guardian and figured out the same thing.OK, the Russkies found out from Hillary that Obama didn't really care for David Cameron. Well, gee, it's not like they couldn't have read The Guardian and figured out the same thing.

Wrong:

For example, seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press ... ail-system

We really don't know what national secrets Hillary made easily available to our adversaries because of her illegal server. But I don't think David Cameron's halitosis would be classified Top Secret/SAP. Things that get those classifications are things that can cause severe damage to national security, like what the Rosenbergs did.

[hedge]

LOL at "national secrets"...