Florida State Seminoles

[eCat]

I actually have very little interest in it but since it was an Xmas present I'll fuck around with it just to make her happy.

I am going to attach the gopro to the dog's collar next time we go to the park. He tried to hump a little furry yap yap dog much to the owners displeasure so a POV video of him smelling butts and humping would be funny to me.

[Bklyn]

Actually, that could be hilarious.

[eCat]

sadly it may be short lived - He gets neutered on Friday.

[Bklyn]

Bastard!

[eCat]

I hate to do it, he's a sweet dog but biology is taking control of him now.

[Jungle Rat]

Doesn't BIL = Boy I Like?

Brook, explain

[Bklyn]

Has it been that long since you've been married? Or, was it sorta like a PTSD scenario and you blacked it out?

[Dora]

Nothing about the Oregon rebels?

[Dora]

Oh, Happy New Year!

[Saint]

Tyranny! blahblahblah Unconstitutional! blahblahblah! Personal freedom! blahblahblah! Squirrel for breakfast!! blahblahblah!

There, I summed it up for you.

[eCat]

a family was labeled terrorists because of their continual fight against the Bureau of Land Management who doesn't like the idea of them having a long term lease to use public land and water rights for cattle grazing.

The Hammond family isn't innocent in this but labeling them terrorists is exactly the kind of overreach that people like me have feared the Patriot Act and the like would create.

In this case a 70 year old man who served time in jail for starting a brush fire (on his land) that extended on to federal land is re-sentenced to go back to jail because he didn't receive the minimum sentence.

What purpose does this serve? It serves to give the BLM right of first refusal when the Hammonds are forced to sell their family farm that connects to land adjacent to BLM park land. This story is essentially about a land grab and the systematic elimination of ranchers around public land by Wildlife management people who feel livestock are in competition with wild animals for natural resources - and them going after a family who made a mistake in poaching deer and starting a backfire as an excuse to do what they couldn't do legally for over 20 years.

This in a nutshell is why those men are occupying that area - and why the Bundy family feels compelled to help out.

[sardis]

Arsonists!

[Dora]

This is what happened according to the Department of Justice https://assets.documentcloud.org/docume ... torney.pdf

[eCat]

The five-year mandatory minimum sentence provision
was added in 1996 as a part of an overall effort
to combat terrorists through the Antiterrorism and
Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996, Pub. L. No. 104-
132 (AEDPA). The AEDPA has 120 sections, some
concerning habeas corpus and victim restitution reform,
but its primary focus was a substantive response
to acts of terrorism. Title VII of the Act is
“Criminal Law Modifications to Counter Terrorism.”
Its Subtitle A, “Crimes and Penalties,” contains nine
sections, one of which – Section 708 – adds a five-year
mandatory minimum for persons convicted under 18
U.S.C. § 844(f)(1).

to say they haven't been called Terrorists isn't exactly correct.
They went after them again because they weren't sentenced based on the guidelines of this act.

They may not have been called terrorists, but they certainly have been convicted and re-sentenced as them

As I said they aren't saints, but poaching deer on land adjacent to yours and setting brushfires (there is no way anyone is setting a brushfire to hide poaching - it just doesn't make sense) to stop encroaching burns is not terrorism.

[Dora]

Thank you, I didn't know that.

[eCat]

kind of a convenient narrative that the Department of Justice refers to the mandatory sentence as just "what congress mandated" without referencing its from a terrorist act.

[hedge]

"and them going after a family who made a mistake in poaching deer and starting a backfire"

Backfire!!

[Jungle Rat]

Has it been that long since you've been married? Or, was it sorta like a PTSD scenario and you blacked it out?

Yes

[Jungle Rat]

I hate to do it, he's a sweet dog but biology is taking control of him now.

You should name your dog Ben.

[crashcourse]

I started calling my wife Ben Dover

she didn't think it was funny