Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

[bluetick]

Media just can't catch a break. Either from GOP debators with fragile sensibilities or idealistic college campers sporting their Timberlands and neon sleeping bags.

[10ac]

Are you two the same guy?

[Professor Tiger]

Those spoiled narcissistic children are going to be in for a rude shock when they graduate and have to get a job in the real world. They only way they can remain in their tiny little socialist utopian bubble is to work for NPR or become community organizers, and there aren't many openings in those places. They will be yelling at micro-aggressive customers from behind the counter at McDonalds. Not a good way to start paying off the six figure loans for their degrees in Feminist Studies or Africana.

[bluetick]

Ed Zachary. We need to shutter the academic side of these overblown universities and put those resources to better use (bigger rosters, stadiums boxes, etc). Hell, the best line from the debate last night was "we need more welders and less philosophers." The cheers are still ringin' in my ears..

[Professor Tiger]

Ed Zachary. We need to shutter the academic side of these overblown universities and put those resources to better use (bigger rosters, stadiums boxes, etc).

In the SEC, we have been doing that for decades. Where have you been?

[Professor Tiger]

Happy Veterans Day to all my fellow vets. (Anybody out there other than JD? He was in the Navy, but I guess that counts.) In keeping with my tradition, I'm grabbing a free lunch at Applebee's and a free dinner at Red Lobster. This annual joy of getting free stuff always reminds me what it must be like to be a liberal. I understand the attraction.

[hedge]

"If the school loses money because of a strike, they will be sued for their share of the school's lost revenue as damages."

If they don't get to share in the profits, how can they be sued for lost revenue?

"Those spoiled narcissistic children are going to be in for a rude shock when they graduate and have to get a job in the real world. They only way they can remain in their tiny little socialist utopian bubble is to work for NPR or become community organizers, and there aren't many openings in those places."

Unless they go to the NFL or other professional sports league, which are the most highly and effectively unionized organizations in the world. Then they can write their own tickets. Looks like they're just getting a little practice. But I can understand why old white men are enraged that colored college kids have more power they they (the old whiteys) do. Indeed, the outrage in here is palpable. No matter what other feelings I have about all of this, that fact alone pleases me...

[Professor Tiger]

But I can understand why old white men are enraged that colored college kids have more power they they (the old whiteys) do.

Incorrect. Us old whiteys pay for college football. We have ALL the power. If we quit buying tickets and watching cfb on tv, the spoiled crybabies don't even get scholarships. They can try out for the NFL on their own dime, as is common in baseball.

[Toemeesleather]

They only way they can remain in their tiny little socialist utopian bubble is to work for NPR, IRS, NBC, DNC, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, NYT, LAT, SF, CBS, ESPN, NASA, University of ____________.


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[Professor Tiger]

I stand corrected.

But good luck to the histrionic ninnies in finding jobs at those places. Other than the conservative harassment/email deleting division of the IRS, they are all hemorraging money for lack of viewership/readership, and are therefore laying off, not hiring. And McDonalds probably pays more.

[hedge]

But I can understand why old white men are enraged that colored college kids have more power they they (the old whiteys) do.

Incorrect. Us old whiteys pay for college football. We have ALL the power. If we quit buying tickets and watching cfb on tv, the spoiled crybabies don't even get scholarships. They can try out for the NFL on their own dime, as is common in baseball.

LMAO...

[hedge]

Especially hilarious given that I assume you are sympathetic to ideas, absurd as they are, that are given voice by Ayn Rand in Atlas Shrugged. I'll give you a hint: You're not Atlas. Quite the contrary...

[Professor Tiger]

Never read Ayn Rand or Atlas Shrugged. And what little I know of her and it, I'm not a fan.

Ron and Rand Paul are my voices.

[Johnette's Daddy]

But I can understand why old white men are enraged that colored college kids have more power they they (the old whiteys) do.

Incorrect. Us old whiteys pay for college football. We have ALL the power. If we quit buying tickets and watching cfb on tv, the spoiled crybabies don't even get scholarships. They can try out for the NFL on their own dime, as is common in baseball.

You old whiteys want to win more than anything.

The rule of thumb in College Hoops was no coloreds at our historical institutions of southern heritage . . . then all-Black West Texas State beat all-white Kentucky for the National Championship in 1966 and inkspots started showing up on college basketball rosters throughout the south.

George Wallace stood on the steps of the University of Alabama in 1963 to block the enrollment of negroes. In September 1970, after Southern Cal's black fullback, Sam Cunningham, led the Trojans to a rout of 'Bama in 'Bama, Bear Bryant and Shug Jordan integrated 'Bama & Auburn's teams.

The ONE colorblind area of America is team sports. If the guy wears our jersey and helps us win, he's a great human being. If he dogs it wearing our uniform or costs us a big game - he's a bum and a cancer.

[Toemeesleather]

...and if he's black, intelligent and conservative, he's a sellout.....serious question, what's worse....being called a n.... by a red neck or being accused of acting white (doing your homework/performing academically) by your own kind?

[AlabamAlum]

JD,

Bryant had already signed two black players at Bama before Sam Cunningham's game against Bama. John Mitchell and Wilbur Jackson were signed and on the team. He had black walk-ons as early as 1967 at Bama, and had coached black players at other teams. Further, Bryant agreed to play intergrated northern teams as early as 1959 (which was not common in the south at the time). Finally, Bryant had recruited many black players at Bama in the years prior to Jackson and Mitchell signing with Bama, but understandably most declined (and at least two didn't have the grades).

Anyway, back to USC and Sam Cunningham: Alabama was coming off a 6-5 season and lost to the Trojans. They beat USC and Sam Cunningham the next year in Los Angeles. Did the USC game in 1970 help some racist sidewalk goobers accept integration? Probably, but Bryant was going to do it anyway.

But, hey, the oft-told Sam Cunningham fable makes for a nice story.

[AlabamAlum]

Incidentally, the 1971 Bama-USC game in Los Angeles was the game that Bryant famously unveiled his new secret weapon: The Wishbone.

[hedge]

I saw a documentary on ESPN about that game, it was implied that Bryant scheduled that game, in which he knew his team would be a severe underdog, in order to show Bama fans that black players were the wave of the future. I don't doubt your assessment of Bryant's personal feelings on the matter, but the doc made it seem like Bryant used that game to get the more backwards thinking segment of the fan base (the vast majority, I would reckon) onto the same page as he was...

[AlabamAlum]

Hedge,

Yeah, that's part of the common narrative on it. The fact was McKay (USC's coach) and Bryant were old friends and golf buddies. And Bama had played prominent national teams with blacks on the roster for over a decade when that game was scheduled. That, plus the other facts listed above make some grand social scheme of getting racists to accept blacks through a loss to a team with blacks makes little sense -especially since Bryant had already signed two african-americans.

[AlabamAlum]

But, again, outside of a few local sportswriters (Cecil Hurt, for example), and football historians, most will just accept and perpetuate the Cunningham stuff.

And I guess it doesn't really matter.