Prof Tiger & Sardis "All Things Considered" Theology Hut

[The Gray Ghost]

Your Episcopal roots are showing. An old school RC would have said them in Latin.

[hedge]

I would've liked that better. Because Latin is a dead language...

[The Gray Ghost]

All of this papal loving had me wondering what our old friend Ian Paisley had to say about the Pontiff and I find the old coot died last year! Nary a post on this board that made him famous.

[Professor Tiger]

That is the fault of Sardis, his disciple and fellow BJU alum.

Latin? Bah. I should have posted it in the original language of the New Testament: koine Greek. That language I know.

[Professor Tiger]

Now that Ian Paisley is Orthodox, he understands the error of his ways.

[sardis]

I thought I paid homage, but maybe I didn't. Anyway, here is Dr. Paisley debating the Catholics at Oxford Union.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nvH0p4iNbiE

[sardis]

He certainly wouldn't be knob gobbling the pope like politicians today

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JlbmIMbKZa4

[hedge]

"I thought I paid homage, but maybe I didn't. Anyway, here is Dr. Paisley debating the Catholics at Oxford Union."

He reminds me of the wooden arm constable in Young Frankenstein in that clip...

[Professor Tiger]

NEVAH!

Sardis, I thought we commemorated his passing too, but if we did, I can't find it.

He looked and talked so much like my Ulster Orangeman grandfather it was scary. Paisley was Grandpa's hero.

[hedge]

Ian Paisley and Gerry Adams make me want to spew. By Christopher Hitchens

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... akers.html

[hedge]

This tells me pretty much all I need to know about Paisley. I'm sure sardis is a fan...

"In 1954 he received an honorary doctor of divinity degree from the Bob Jones University in South Carolina."

[The Gray Ghost]

Now that Ian Paisley is Orthodox, he understands the error of his ways.

Oh I bet the mormons have post-mortem baptized him by now so he has his own planet with a dozen Ulster wives.

[hedge]

15 Cursed be the man that maketh any graven or molten image, an abomination unto the LORD, the work of the hands of the craftsman, and putteth it in a secret place. And all the people shall answer and say, Amen.

16 Cursed be he that setteth light by his father or his mother. And all the people shall say, Amen.

17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbour's landmark. And all the people shall say, Amen.

18 Cursed be he that maketh the blind to wander out of the way. And all the people shall say, Amen.

19 Cursed be he that perverteth the judgment of the stranger, fatherless, and widow. And all the people shall say, Amen.

20 Cursed be he that lieth with his father's wife; because he uncovereth his father's skirt. And all the people shall say, Amen.

21 Cursed be he that lieth with any manner of beast. And all the people shall say, Amen.

22 Cursed be he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of his mother. And all the people shall say, Amen.

23 Cursed be he that lieth with his mother in law. And all the people shall say, Amen.

24 Cursed be he that smiteth his neighbour secretly. And all the people shall say, Amen.

25 Cursed be he that taketh reward to slay an innocent person. And all the people shall say, Amen.

26 Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen.

[Johnette's Daddy]

By saying, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's..." apparently Jesus didn't agree with the prevailing Jewish view that NOTHING belongs to Caesar. I'm sure you noticed, he was always saying things that the Pharisees didn't like.

Uh, dude. Jesus was a Pharisee. He agreed with everything the Pharisees said - his disagreement was with their hypocrisy. Paul was a Pharisee, as well, as were all of the Zealots (they were the ultra conservative wing of the Pharisees). Paul, however, became completely anti-Jewish after his conversion, whereas the "orthodox" Christians [Peter, John and James (the brother of Jesus)] still practiced pharasaical Judaism. Many of Paul's references to "Satan" infecting the churches that he planted in his letters are allusions to James', Peter's and John's students going behind Paul to those churches and telling them that Paul was out of whack.

"Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's" was akin to "Give me liberty or give me death." To hell with Caesar (literally).

[sardis]

15 Cursed be the man that maketh any graven or molten image, an abomination unto the LORD, the work of the hands of the craftsman, and putteth it in a secret place. And all the people shall answer and say, Amen.

16 Cursed be he that setteth light by his father or his mother. And all the people shall say, Amen.

17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbour's landmark. And all the people shall say, Amen.

18 Cursed be he that maketh the blind to wander out of the way. And all the people shall say, Amen.

19 Cursed be he that perverteth the judgment of the stranger, fatherless, and widow. And all the people shall say, Amen.

20 Cursed be he that lieth with his father's wife; because he uncovereth his father's skirt. And all the people shall say, Amen.

21 Cursed be he that lieth with any manner of beast. And all the people shall say, Amen.

22 Cursed be he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of his mother. And all the people shall say, Amen.

23 Cursed be he that lieth with his mother in law. And all the people shall say, Amen.

24 Cursed be he that smiteth his neighbour secretly. And all the people shall say, Amen.

25 Cursed be he that taketh reward to slay an innocent person. And all the people shall say, Amen.

26 Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen.

Which one do you have a problem with?

[hedge]

All of them...

[Professor Tiger]

So we'll put hedge down as being in favor of uncovering his father's skirt.

[hedge]

Or leading the blind astray...

[Professor Tiger]

By saying, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's..." apparently Jesus didn't agree with the prevailing Jewish view that NOTHING belongs to Caesar. I'm sure you noticed, he was always saying things that the Pharisees didn't like.

Uh, dude. Jesus was a Pharisee. He agreed with everything the Pharisees said - his disagreement was with their hypocrisy. Paul was a Pharisee, as well, as were all of the Zealots (they were the ultra conservative wing of the Pharisees). Paul, however, became completely anti-Jewish after his conversion, whereas the "orthodox" Christians [Peter, John and James (the brother of Jesus)] still practiced pharasaical Judaism. Many of Paul's references to "Satan" infecting the churches that he planted in his letters are allusions to James', Peter's and John's students going behind Paul to those churches and telling them that Paul was out of whack.

"Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's" was akin to "Give me liberty or give me death." To hell with Caesar (literally).

I think the Pharisees would have begged to differ that Jesus was one of them.

[hedge]

Kinda like your family begs to differ that you are one of them...