Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

[bluetick]

That kind of stuff is messed up. Knoxville had some shit like that going on also didn't they tick?

Its complete BS.

Damn straight!

Hello

[Johnette's Daddy]

According to the Officer Down Memorial Page, a nonprofit organization that tracks line-of-duty police fatalities, Ponder was the 25th on-duty officer shot and killed in the United States this year.

Man suspected of gunning down Kentucky state trooper has been shot and killed

This conservative penchant for collective blaming was absent on June 8, when Jerad and Amanda Miller — both white — shot and killed Las Vegas police officers Igor Soldo and Alyn Beck, as they had lunch at a strip mall. The couple dragged the officers’ bodies from their booth, draped Beck’s body with the yellow “Gasden flag” popular with the tea party movement, and pinned a note to Soldo’s body reading “This is the beginning of the revolution.” The couple stole the officers guns and ammunition, and fled to a local Walmart. Jerad Miller was shot and killed by police. Amanda Miller died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

Reports surfaced of Jerad Miller’s anti-government posts to Facebook, and Alex Jones “Infowars” message board — including a post titled, “The Police (to kill or not to kill).” The Millers camped out at Cliven Bundy’s ranch, where Bundy’s “militia” pointed guns at sheriff’s deputy’s and threatened to kill federal officers. Jerad Miller was even interviewed at the ranch, before being booted for his “radical” views.

Conservatives were less than outraged. Instead of blaming Cliven Bundy, Alex Jones, or the tea party movement, they tried to paint the Millers as radical leftists. Conservative media refused to call the Las Vegas shooting terrorism.

[Johnette's Daddy]

Sovereign Citizens Are America’s Top Cop-Killers

Sovereign citizens are not explicitly violent, but over the past few years the number of lone wolf attacks on law enforcement by followers of the movement, have prompted the FBI to consider sovereign citizens a major domestic terrorism threat. This summer, the University of Maryland’s National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism released the results of a study finding sovereign citizens are perceived to be the single greatest threat to law enforcement, above Islamist extremists and patriot or militia groups.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... llers.html

[hedge]

Damn liberals...

[Johnette's Daddy]

ALLEGED WISCONSIN COP-KILLER HAD WHITE SUPREMACIST PAST



Before he allegedly robbed a bank, stole a pickup truck, killed a man and then got into a shootout that left him and a young state trooper dead in small town Wisconsin on Tuesday, Steven Snyder was reportedly a racist skinhead with ties to the National Alliance (NA), once the best organized and most dangerous neo-Nazi group in the country.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/201 ... acist-past

[hedge]

Damn liberals...

[sardis]

The only difference between Steven Snyder and Michael Brown is that no one is making Steven Snyder out as a hero.

[Jungle Rat]

This thread sucks.

[Johnette's Daddy]

The only difference between Steven Snyder and Michael Brown is that no one is making Steven Snyder out as a hero.

Armed Steven Snyder LAID IN WAIT & ASSASSINATED a police officer after robbing a bank.

Unarmed Michael Brown WAS KILLED BY a police officer after shoplifting a cigar.

No difference at all.

[bluetick]

Michael Brown a 'hero, sardis'? No way. Didn't you see the store video where he grabbed the cigars and pushed the owner?

Wilson is the hero...saved taxpayers untold dollars by skipping the judicial phase and dispensing 10 rounds of frontier justice.

[Professor Tiger]

I didn't watch the debate last night, but according to recaps, Fiorina schooled Trump and pretty much everybody else. Good for her. Paul is still my first choice, but I could easily vote for Fiorina. She reminds me of Margaret Thatcher.

[Johnette's Daddy]

I didn't watch the debate last night, but according to recaps, Fiorina schooled Trump and pretty much everybody else. Good for her. Paul is still my first choice, but I could easily vote for Fiorina. She reminds me of Margaret Thatcher.

Are you serious?

http://gizmodo.com/a-reader-horror-stor ... 1731489811

Republican Presidential Candidate Carly Fiorina was forced to resign as CEO of Hewlett-Packard in 2005, after stock prices plummeted by half and she laid off 30,000 workers. Now HP is back in the news with more mass layoffs, and a Gizmodo reader wrote in with how bad it really is.

The media is having a field day fact-checking Fiorina’s claims concerning her HP record. The New York Times accuses her of using “fuzzy math” to obscure the damage done under her tenure, including the acquisition of Compaq, now seen by many analysts as a bad move. Her executive experience in this arena should not be touted, as she did during her first primetime debate.

Since Fiorina’s board-induced departure, Hewlett-Packard hasn’t fared much better. HP is set to lose another 30,000 jobs as it splits into two units—one with a focus on personal computing, and the other on software. The company has hemorrhaged jobs in the thousands in the run-up to the split.

In response to my call for nightmare tales of working at a tech giant, reader showbiz2 started out by trying to keep their company anonymous, but it was quickly identified by other commenters. Of the current environment at HP, showbiz2 relates:

The company is bleeding people so badly in 6 months even the shareholders will say “yeah, maybe you should hire some folks....”. It boils down to this: 30 year veterans required to be in certain locations for the business, are being shown the door and given hours to train replacements for groups of dozens of people in a matter of hours. no transition, just “train them and get the fuck out.”

It’s seriously fucked up. I’ve been through other tech declines, like Telcom back in late 90’s, but I have never seen people axed in this way, for these reasons.

The sad thing is, there really is no need to do this. There are choices that are being made that are really really questionable, bordering on illegal. Are you disabled and can’t drive 6 hours one way to get to an office where you haven’t had to go in 20 years? Yeah, fuck you, wheelchair crip, get to the office or your fired. Oh, I see you didn’t badge in today, crip? Yeah, you’re fired. Sorry we only gave you 24 hours to not be crippled anymore, but you’re still fired.

[Professor Tiger]

As much as I hesitate to go against such an esteemed source as quizmodo, I still like Carly. The PAH has probably fired thousands of her vassals for lesser infractions. Like having sex with her husband.

[hedge]

Concur that the hyperbolic griping of the anonymous scorned (however cleverly monikered) is a less than credible source for a full, objective view of what's going on at HP or anywhere else. That would be like consulting the bible for a true picture of reality, and for the exact same reason...

[Professor Tiger]

Here's what seems like a fair assessment of Fiorina's performance at HP. It's a link from msn.com, so it couldn't be too biased either way.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companie ... ?li=AA4Zjn

But cheer up, JD. There's supposedly some stuff from Lucent coming out that is unfavorable to her. But unless Carly was the enabler-in-chief of her husband's multiple sexual assaults on women, committed several felonies with her email schemes, got ambassadors killed and then lied about it, and took bribes from foreign governments while Secretary of State, Fiorina stills compares favorably to Hillary.

[Johnette's Daddy]

Here's what seems like a fair assessment of Fiorina's performance at HP. It's a link from msn.com, so it couldn't be too biased either way.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companie ... ?li=AA4Zjn

But cheer up, JD. There's supposedly some stuff from Lucent coming out that is unfavorable to her. But unless Carly was the enabler-in-chief of her husband's multiple sexual assaults on women, committed several felonies with her email schemes, got ambassadors killed and then lied about it, and took bribes from foreign governments while Secretary of State, Fiorina stills compares favorably to Hillary.

Lee's article that you cited is based on the premise that she was a bad CEO - not a disastrous one - in a bad economy. Even if we accept his premise, do you seriously consider someone whose apologists acknowledge was mediocre at best for the top job in the world?

Meanwhile, that anti-business rag Forbes writes:

Trump's Right: Here's The Proof Carly Fiorina Was A Disaster For HP Shareholders

http://www.forbes.com/sites/laurengensl ... tion-2016/

Business Insider:

Yale professor on Carly Fiorina's business record: She 'destroyed half the wealth of her investors yet still earned almost $100 million'

http://www.businessinsider.com/fiorina- ... -worst-ceo

And from 2009 (before the political spin masters got involved):

Portfolio's Worst American CEOs of All Time

http://www.cnbc.com/2009/04/30/Portfoli ... -Time.html

19. Carly Fiorina
A consummate self-promoter, Fiorina was busy pontificating on the lecture circuit and posing for magazine covers while her company floundered. She paid herself handsome bonuses and perks while laying off thousands of employees to cut costs. The merger Fiorina orchestrated with Compaq in 2002 was widely seen as a failure. She was ousted in 2005.

THE STAT: HP stock lost half its value during Fiorina’s tenure.

[Toemeesleather]

More desperation from the NYT.....yes, if you don't swallow the AGW they're peddling,......wait.....wait for it......yep, you're Hitler.


....Today we confront the same crucial choice between science and ideology that Germans once faced. Will we accept empirical evidence and support new energy technologies, or allow a wave of ecological panic to spread across the world?


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/13/opini ... =eta1&_r=0

[hedge]

You know, the more I hear about this Hitler guy, the less I care for him...

[bluetick]

Whoever he is, he apparently needs to be stopped.

[Professor Tiger]

Lee's article that you cited is based on the premise that she was a bad CEO - not a disastrous one - in a bad economy. Even if we accept his premise, do you seriously consider someone whose apologists acknowledge was mediocre at best for the top job in the world?

As opposed to Hillary, who was a colossal failure in everything she ever attempted. As FLOTUS she was in charge of implementing government health care. She failed. She was in charge of playing whack-a-mole tamping down all Bill's women. She failed. As US Senator, can anybody honestly name a single accomplishment? As Secretary of State, she not only managed the biggest meltdown of US influence in a critical region, her incompetence got an ambassador, some staffers and 2 SEAL's killed. For this she blamed the disaster on a youtube video and absolved herself with the ridiculous alibi, "What, at this point, does it matter?"

Nah. Fiorina's failures pale in comparison to Hillary's.