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Re: Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

Post by Professor Tiger » Mon Aug 24, 2015 3:43 pm

The AGW apocalypse is a fairy tale. The real apocalypse going on is the Chinese stock market, and their economy in general. They're going through a prolonged 1929 experience. They devalued the yuan too.

I've always said that the biggest short-term danger to the U.S. Is if the Chinese ever quit financing our colossal debt by buying our t-bills. That would be our apocalypse, and it is more likely today than six months ago.
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Global Warming "Hiatus" Challenged by NOAA Research - NY Times http://www/nytimes.com/2015/06/05/scien ... iatus.html

Scientists have long labored to explain what appeared to be a slowdown in global warming that began at the start of the century as, at the same time, heat-trapping emissions of carbon dioxide were soaring. The slowdown, sometimes inaccurately described as a halt or hiatus, became a major talking point for people critical of climate science.

Now, new research suggests the whole thing may have been based on incorrect data.

When adjustments are made to compensate for recently discovered problems in the way global temperatures were measured, the slowdown largely disappears, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration declared in a scientific paper published Thursday. And when the particularly warm temperatures of 2013 and 2014 are averaged in, the slowdown goes away entirely, the agency said.


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Post by bluetick » Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:19 pm

Toemeesleather wrote:
A major hurricane is Category 3 or higher hurrucine. The last one to strike the continental U.S. was Hurricane Wilma, which made landfall in North Carolina on Oct. 24, 2005.
Hurricane Ike was a Category 4 storm that hit Texas in 2008 with 145 fatalities.
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Post by 10ac » Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:35 pm

Now, new research suggests the whole thing may have been based on incorrect data.

When adjustments are made to compensate for recently discovered problems in the way global temperatures were measured, the slowdown largely disappears, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration declared in a scientific paper published Thursday. And when the particularly warm temperatures of 2013 and 2014 are averaged in, the slowdown goes away entirely, the agency said.
Are they saying that if they fudge the data they can make the slowdown go away?
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Post by Professor Tiger » Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:44 pm

bluetick wrote:Global Warming "Hiatus" Challenged by NOAA Research - NY Times http://www/nytimes.com/2015/06/05/scien ... iatus.html

Scientists have long labored to explain what appeared to be a slowdown in global warming that began at the start of the century as, at the same time, heat-trapping emissions of carbon dioxide were soaring. The slowdown, sometimes inaccurately described as a halt or hiatus, became a major talking point for people critical of climate science.

Now, new research suggests the whole thing may have been based on incorrect data.

When adjustments are made to compensate for recently discovered problems in the way global temperatures were measured, the slowdown largely disappears, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration declared in a scientific paper published Thursday. And when the particularly warm temperatures of 2013 and 2014 are averaged in, the slowdown goes away entirely, the agency said.


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Of course they're going to pay an extraordinary penance for their momentary truthful heresy that AGW isn't really happening. They don't enjoy being exiled from the faculty lounge, and they want back in. Plus they want back on the pro-AGW research grant gravy train.
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Post by Professor Tiger » Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:46 pm

I ask again: what is the earth's baseline temperature?
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Post by Professor Tiger » Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:00 pm

That right-wing extremist Tea Party screed, the Washington Post, points out that another cabinet level official once got caught keeping classified material on a homebrew server. He only escaped jail time because Hillary's husband pardoned him.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... story.html
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Post by bluetick » Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:16 pm

Yeah, and that commie rag The Washington Examiner pointed out the double standard of Hillary getting roasted for the EXACT SAME THING Colin Powell has (so far) gotten a pass on.

But you wouldn't defend Powell either because he's a republican. You only feel paternal about your fellow libertarian pols...all, uh, none of them.
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Post by Toemeesleather » Tue Aug 25, 2015 8:18 am

Hurricane Sandy made landfall in the United States about 8 p.m. EDT Oct. 29, striking near Atlantic City, N.J., with winds of 80 mph. A full moon made high tides 20 percent higher than normal and amplified Sandy's storm surge.

http://www.livescience.com/24380-hurric ... -data.html


Hurricane Ike came ashore in Texas at 2:10 a.m. CDT, Sept. 13, and brought a wall of water over 13 feet high, sweeping through Galveston Island, and on the mainland. Ike made landfall with sustained winds near 110 mph, just 1 mph short of a Category 3 hurricane.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hurri ... 8_ike.html
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Post by bluetick » Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:51 pm

http://www.hurricanescience.org/history ... 2000s/ike/

Ike continued to intensify and was further upgraded to a Category 4 hurricane on the SSH Wind Scale three hours later... By the early morning hours of September 4 Ike had reached its peak intensity of 230km/h (145 mph) with an estimated pressure of 935 mbar, making it the most intense storm of the season.
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Post by hedge » Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:10 pm

Why did you lie, Toe?
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Post by sardis » Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:19 pm

It's so scary, tick. I don't know how we'll ever survive this onslaught of constant hurricanes. God help us all.

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Post by bluetick » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:23 pm

sardis wrote:It's so scary, tick. I don't know how we'll ever survive this onslaught of Donald Harrumph. God help us all.
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Post by bluetick » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:32 pm

How petty and vindictive can the guy be? A bigger man would let it go...especially if he's committed to being the leader of the free world.

Trump Pounces on Megyn Kelly on Her First Day Back From Vacation..http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/tru ... id=U142DHP
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Post by aTm » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:46 pm

"Major Hurricane" has an objective definition and by that definition the last to make landfall in the US was Wilma. Neither Ike nor Sandy hit the United States as a "Major Hurricane." This is not to say that any hurricane or tropical storm can subjectively be considered "Major" or whatever, but for Ike for example most of the deaths that occurred in Galveston County was because people are idiots and it was "only a Category 2"
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Post by aTm » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:49 pm

Example...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/cap ... o-a-close/
In May, the Climate Prediction Center predicted a relatively quiet season, with eight to 13 named storms, three to six hurricanes, and one to two major hurricanes. In reality, there were eight named storms, six of which became hurricanes, and two of those became major hurricanes — at least a category 3 on the Saffir-Simpson scale.
2014 is now the ninth year without a major hurricane landfall in the U.S. The last one was Wilma on Oct. 24, 2005, and the unprecedented streak will continue into at least 2015. The only storm to make U.S. landfall in 2014 was Arthur, a category 2 hurricane that bruised the Outer Banks of North Carolina on the night of July 3. It was the strongest U.S. landfall since Ike hit Texas on September 13, 2008.
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Post by Toemeesleather » Tue Aug 25, 2015 3:28 pm

Trump Pounces on Megyn Kelly...


Is she still alive? Did he abandon her and leave her to die and then make up a whopper about some video?
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Post by Professor Tiger » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:16 am

A President Trump would launch missiles at Russia if Putin asked where he got his toupee.
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Post by Professor Tiger » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:41 am

bluetick wrote:Yeah, and that commie rag The Washington Examiner pointed out the double standard of Hillary getting roasted for the EXACT SAME THING Colin Powell has (so far) gotten a pass on.

But you wouldn't defend Powell either because he's a republican. You only feel paternal about your fellow libertarian pols...all, uh, none of them.
State Department rules about personal email accounts started in 2005; the year Powell left office.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/c ... 15870.html

Espionage hacking was not the threat in Powell's tenure as it is today. He probably was still using MS DOS.

Plus, Powell didn't stockpile his emails on a personal server in his basement, then decide on his own which emails were personal and which were public, then wipe the server, then lie about it multiple times.
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