Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

[Cletus]

Killing a lion in Africa, worthy of leading the news on all networks, outrage sparked all over.....

Killing a baby, harvesting body parts for sell......meh.

Fuck the guy that killed the lion. I find that far more upsetting than any abortion. We've got plenty of people. We don't have plenty of lions. I hope the next wild animal that sees that dentist mauls the shit out of him.

[Jungle Rat]

My old boss went to Africa many times. He's got at least one of everything stuffed and hung in his mansion. He's a total dickhead. I hope he's exposed one day as well.

[innocentbystander]

Killing a lion in Africa, worthy of leading the news on all networks, outrage sparked all over.....

Killing a baby, harvesting body parts for sell......meh.

Fuck the guy that killed the lion. I find that far more upsetting than any abortion. We've got plenty of people. We don't have plenty of lions. I hope the next wild animal that sees that dentist mauls the shit out of him.

[Toemeesleather]

Is Greenspan competing w/Trump? Crazy rhetoric.....



While markets hone in on the Federal Reserve's monetary policy hints, former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan sees a bigger economic irritant—government spending.

On Wednesday, Greenspan decried a rise in entitlement costs, which he contended have pressured the U.S. economy.

"To me the discussion today shouldn't even be on monetary policy it should be on how do we constrain this extraordinary rise in entitlements," he said in a CNBC "Closing Bell" interview, calling the trend "extremely dangerous."

[Toemeesleather]

This being America, no good deed goes unlitigated, but sometimes the good deed still wins. So it is in Michigan, where on Wednesday the state Supreme Court turned a union lawsuit on its head and said the state’s right-to-work law applies to 36,000 government workers.

In 2012 Michigan passed a right-to work statute that lets workers decide whether to join a union and thus pay union dues. The United Auto Workers (UAW), which represents 17,000 state workers, brought a lawsuit claiming the law doesn’t apply to its members because their employment terms are set by the Michigan Civil Service Commission.

Bad call. The Civil Service Commission had long held that, while public employees could opt out of the union, they had to pay union fees. On Wednesday the Supreme Court ruled 4-3 that the commission had no such constitutional authority “to compel civil service employees to make involuntary financial contributions.” Justice Robert Young wrote for the majority that the commission’s rule amounted to a form of taxation, and the power to tax is held exclusively by the legislature.

This is great news for self-government, empowering an elected legislature over courts and an unelected bureaucracy. But it’s even better news for state employees, who will now be able to decide if they want to pay the fees that finance an organization whose purpose and practices they may not support.

Union membership has plummeted in Wisconsin and Indiana since similar worker freedom was allowed. The largest state teachers union in Wisconsin has lost more than half of its 40,000 members in four years. Meanwhile, the UAW faces another watershed when its auto contracts expire later this year, meaning auto workers will be eligible for right-to-work protections for the first time.

Unions are fine with us when workers have the right to freely choose to join. Coerced membership is bad enough in private industry, but it is especially rotten in government, where there is no competition and union power thus becomes entrenched. Taxpayers should thank the UAW for giving the Justices a chance to return to first legal principles.

[Toemeesleather]

Salon.com



I have constantly said that Senator Dianne Feinstein should have been the leading woman presidential candidate for the Democratic party long ago. Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi is a very deft and clever behind-the-scenes legislator and dealmaker, a skill she acquired from her political family–her father and brother were mayors of Baltimore. Both of these women, to me, are far better politicians than Hillary Clinton. Hillary has accomplished nothing substantial in her life. She’s been pushed along, coasting on her husband’s coattails, and every job she’s been given fizzled out into time-serving or overt disaster. Hillary constantly strikes attitudes and claims she’s “passionate” about this or that, but there’s never any sustained follow-through. She’s just a classic, corporate exec or bureaucrat type who would prefer to be at her desk behind closed doors, imposing her power schemes on the proletariat. She has no discernible political skills of any kind, which is why she needs a big, shifting army of consultants, advisors, and toadies to whisper in her ear and write her policy statements. There’s this ridiculous new theme in the media about people needing to learn who the “real” Hillary Clinton is. What? Everything they’re saying about what a wonderful person Hillary is in private tells us that she’s not competent or credible as a public figure! A politician, particularly a president, must have a distinct skill or expertise in communicating with the masses. It’s the absolutely basic requirement for any career in politics.

If you don’t have an effective public persona, if you’re not a good speaker, if you don’t like to press the flesh, if you’re not nimble enough to deal with anything that comes along, then you are not a natural politician! And you sure aren’t going to learn it in your late 60s! Get off the stage, and let someone else truly electable on! All this silly talk about how wonderful Hillary is in private. Oh, sure, she’s nice to the important people and the people she wants or needs something from! Then she’s Pollyanna herself! There are just too many reports stretching all the way back to Arkansas about Hillary’s nasty outbursts toward underlings when things aren’t going well. The main point is that the ability to communicate with millions of people is a special talent, and Hillary pretty obviously lacks it.

[Johnette's Daddy]

WATCH: Body cam video released in Sam DuBose shooting

http://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/ham ... e-shooting

The issue, to me, is not the shooting so much as the fact that THE COP'S OWN BODY CAM TELLS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT REPORT THAN THE COP'S WRITTEN REPORT!

As cops start wearing body cams (and they function properly), cops are shown doing some ridiculously heinous stuff - and recording themselves doing it. Worse (like the SC cop whose own dash cam catches him planting a taser on his victim), some of these dudes are telling gross lies, apparently not realizing that they are creating a video record of what they did.

Video of confrontation lands Massachusetts policeman in trouble

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/28/us/massac ... e-dashcam/

In this incident, the driver has a dash cam which catches the detective - who was previously reprimanded after being caught on video a few years earlier abusing someone, and also lost a civil suit in the 90s for abuse of authority and assault - threatening to put a hole in this guy's head in a case of road rage.

If you watch the other videos in the string, the worst (to me) is the one where the cops beat a 60-something year old man (claiming he bit one of them) and ARE THEN SHOWN ON VIDEO PLANTING CRACK IN THE MAN'S CAR!

Just . . . stunning.

[Toemeesleather]

Check it out JD....

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/national/c ... eze/nm9Cg/

[Toemeesleather]

BH Obammer, 2015 state of the union speech.....


“Over the past five years, our businesses have created more than 11 million new jobs.”




http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2015/07/ ... od=WSJBlog


Soooo, the question remains, what in the hell are allllllll these people getting jobs actually doing?

[bluetick]

Hey toe..debate-wise, is your candidate in the big room or the also-ran room?

[Toemeesleather]

I believe Walker is in......unless they've uncovered some kind of confederate flag in his closet.

[Johnette's Daddy]

I believe Walker is in......unless they've uncovered some kind of confederate fag in his closet.

FIFY.

Kasich is the only one who gives me pause.

[innocentbystander]

I believe Walker is in......unless they've uncovered some kind of confederate flag in his closet.

Scott Walker is a very good man. He'd make a very good POTUS.

[sardis]

Not much media coverage on the funerals of the white male heterosexual Protestant service men this past week. Probably because they had it coming. #whitelivesdontmatter.

[Toemeesleather]

A lion in Africa has died at the hands of a WASP.


NO JUSTICE....NO PEACE


It's 1692 all over again....

[Toemeesleather]

Brit teabaggers protect their border....


http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/594 ... mmigration

[bluetick]

An amazingly simple web search details how much coverage has been given to the Chattanooga soldiers' funerals. There's been a lot, actually.

Remember how 8-10 years ago the media was taken to task for showing flag-draped coffins of fallen soldiers being flown home from Iraq? It must be a tough balancing act for those media types, covering tragic events. I suppose there's always that fringe element that think some group gets too much media sympathy (or think they're own group gets no sympathy at all).

[bluetick]

And as far as the killing of Cecil the Lion goes...surely that's not a liberal vs right-wing thing is it? Doesn't pretty much everybody think that was a dick move? At least anybody with active brain cells (which excuses Ted Nugent, mercifully).

To his credit that dentist appears to be sufficiently remorseful (and getting more remorseful by the minute, apparently), so maybe he won't join the ranks of unrepentant assholes like those Westboro Baptist Churchers. Or Bill Cosby. Or telemarketers.

[Toemeesleather]

surely that's not a liberal vs right-wing thing is it?


Zero coverage/outrage on the Today show(and most of the msm) re: slicing/dicing babies and selling the parts.....going on 4 days coverage of a dead lion.

And STILL mum on dead eagles/hawks/condors from wind turbines.

[Toemeesleather]

Great news Tick......turns out they've legalized killing eagles for sake of the progressive agenda. Sleep well.


The American Bird Conservancy (ABC) announced it was suing the Obama administration for finalizing a rule that would allow wind farms to kill eagles for up to 30 years. The bird group says that the new rule violates existing federal laws.

ABC says it supports green energy, including wind power, but the Interior Department’s eagle “take” rule finalized last December goes too far and allows wind power producers to ignore basic environmental protections and analysis.

“ABC will take appropriate action to protect eagles and other migratory birds. The 30-year eagle permit rule – adopted in the absence of any [National Environmental Policy Act] document or any consultation under [the Endangered Species Act],” the group wrote to the Interior Department.

Last year, reports began to surface of the huge impact wind farms have on bird populations. One report said that 573,000 birds and 888,000 bats were being killed each year by wind turbines, more than 30 percent higher than federal government estimates. Many of these birds were protected by federal laws, including the Migratory Bird Act and the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act.