Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

[hedge]

It's not a matter of whose life "matters" more, it's a matter of which story most people will be interested in hearing about. Obviously a mass murder with a racial element is more interesting to the viewing public than a cop getting shot. Duh...

[Dr. Strangelove]

A cop was killed.

Sad when it happens. Coming from a cop family, I was happy when my dad retired because I knew that risking his life was part of the job.

Risking one's life, however, is not part of the job for a HS track coach, an octogenarian great grandma or any of the other victims in Charlotte.

So what you're saying is that cops lives don't matter as much? Gotcha. I'll tell that to his 3 teenage sons.

Well what you're saying is that one cop's life is worth as much or more than nine people slaughtered in a church.

Can't help but wonder if you'd feel the same way if it had been an Islamic terrorist shooting up a Presbyterian church in one of your Cincinnati suburbs.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Guns Don't Kill People, Vol. MMCMLVII:

NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

http://news.yahoo.com/nra-executive-sug ... 58974.html#

"Eight of his church members who might be alive if he had expressly allowed members to carry handguns in church are dead," Cotton wrote.

I was under the impression that only liberals seek to politicize tragedy?

[Jungle Rat]

All innocent lives matter. But lets keep putting guns in the hands of nutbags.

[Dr. Strangelove]

All innocent lives matter. But lets keep putting guns in the hands of nutbags.

This is the easiest country in the world for a nutbag to get a gun.

The NRA's solution is for everyone to buy more guns, as many as possible. Thus will gun violence go down.

[Dr. Strangelove]

UKIP, France's National Front, and other far-right political parties in Europe attempt to block legislation that would force them to reveal any non-EU funding they receive. Most believe all these uber-nationalist rightwing groups receive significant funding from Putin (in some cases illegally)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... tions.html

[Professor Tiger]

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Putin hasn't pumped millions into the Clinton slush fund, including when Hillary was SECSTATE.

[Toemeesleather]

I don't know who killed Nicole. The only person formally accused was found not guilty in a court of la]


Heh, thanks for proving my point.

[Toemeesleather]

The NRA's solution is for everyone to buy more guns, as many as possible.

The NRA and I defend the 2nd Amendment, you otoh, build strawmen around crime stories. I still, to this day, can find no writings linking the founding fathers and crime prevention.

[Toemeesleather]

We've seen the demise of Detroit (and other municipalities) by constant union demands of more, more, more.....here's another snippet of how the green beanie crowd in tow w/their dem sponsors, create havoc and increased cost/taxes from something that started as a good idea.


Trying to encourage conservation, progressive lawmakers and environmentalists have made matters worse. By pushing to increase recycling rates with bigger and bigger bins — while demanding almost no sorting by consumers — the recycling stream has become increasingly polluted and less valuable, imperiling the economics of the whole system.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc- ... story.html

[hedge]

I wish you would become more polluted. With the AIDS...

[Johnette's Daddy]

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/06/22/us ... 1&referrer

White Supremacist Who Influenced Charleston Suspect Donated to 2016 G.O.P. Campaigns

The leader of a white supremacist group that apparently influenced Dylann Roof, the suspect in the killing of nine African-Americans in a Charleston, S.C., church last week, has donated tens of thousands of dollars to Republican campaigns, including those of 2016 presidential contenders such as Ted Cruz, Rick Santorum and Rand Paul, records show.

Mr. Cruz, a Texas senator, said Sunday night that he would be returning about $8,500 in donations that he had received from the Texas donor, Earl Holt III, who lists himself as president of the Council of Conservative Citizens.

“We just learned this evening that Mr. Holt had contributed to the campaign,” a spokesman for the Cruz campaign said in an email to The New York Times. “We will be immediately refunding all those donations.

Mr. Paul’s campaign said it planned to send $2,250 received from Mr. Holt to a victims’ fund set up in the wake of the shooting.

“RandPAC is donating the funds to the Mother Emanuel Hope Fund to assist the victims families,” said Sergio Gor, a spokesman for the campaign. Mr. Holt made four separate donations to the Paul campaign last year, records show. The campaign could not confirm the total received but said that all the money it identified from the white supremacist leader would be donated to the fund.

The Guardian first reported on Mr. Holt’s donations to the Republican contenders.

A manifesto that appeared on a website registered to Mr. Roof said that the manifesto’s author had first learned of “brutal black-on-white murders” from the Council of Conservative Citizens’ website.

Mr. Holt, in a statement posted online in his name, said he was not surprised to learn that Mr. Roof had found out about “black-on-white violent crime” from his group because, he said, it was one of the few that had the courage to disclose “the seemingly endless incidents involving black-on-white murder.” But he said his group does not advocate violence and should not be held responsible for the shootings.

The group is regarded by the Southern Poverty Law Center, a leading authority on hate crimes, as a white supremacist extremist organization that opposes “race mixing” as a religious affront and that vilifies blacks as an inferior race.

Spokesmen for Mr. Santorum, a former Pennsylvania senator, and Mr. Paul, a senator from Kentucky, did not respond to requests for comment on the donations.

Mr. Holt, who identified himself in some donation records as a Texas “slumlord,” has also given money to a number of other current and former Republican members of Congress, including Senator Jeff Flake of Arizona, Senator Rob Portman of Ohio, former Representative Michele Bachmann of Minnesota, Representative Steve King of Iowa, and former Representative Todd Akin of Missouri.

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[Johnette's Daddy]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh . . . "CLICK"

http://www.theroot.com/articles/news/20 ... content%26

Cousin: Dylann Roof 'Went Over the Edge When His Girl Crush Started to Date a Black Guy'

Dylann Roof’s hatred for black people—in horrific display during his shooting spree last week inside a historically black church—may have been stoked by jealousy when a girl he liked began to date a black guy, the Intercept reports.

Scoff Roof told the Intercept that his cousin “went over the edge when a girl [Dylann] liked starting dating a black guy two years back.

In this classic scenario of one guy ending up with the romantic crush of another, Dylann's ego was particularly bruised because he lost out to an African American, according to the cousin.

“Dylann liked her,” Scott said. “The black guy got her. He changed.”

Scott remarks might suggest to some that Dylann might not have carried out the massacre at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, S.C. if he hadn’t felt slighted by a black guy. “I don’t know if we would be here if not …” Scott said, before abruptly hanging up the phone and ending the interview.

Scott also said music promoting white supremacy emboldened his cousin’s racist thinking.

"Dylann was normal until he started listening to that white power music stuff,” Scott said.

[aTm]

Subversive music!? Bam! Now we got someone to blame...

[Dr. Strangelove]

Good riddance to the "battle flag" of the South

[sardis]

Amen

[Jungle Rat]

Subversive music!? Bam! Now we got someone to blame...

So is Ozzy finally going to be charged?

[Dr. Strangelove]

Wal-Mart is removing everything with the Confederate flag on it from its stores.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/22/politics/ ... -carolina/