Prof Tiger & Sardis "All Things Considered" Theology Hut

[hedge]

Do you pray for Rat and me, Prof? I mean, if you pray at all...

[Jungle Rat]

hedge is trying to rise to your stature, but is failing badly.

It's been years of frustration for him.

[Professor Tiger]

Do you pray for Rat and me, Prof? I mean, if you pray at all...

Here's one I pray twice a day, along with all the others:

"Save O Lord and have mercy on those who envy and affront me and do me mischief, and do not let them perish through me, a sinner."

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[Johnette's Daddy]

RELIGIOUS LEADERS WARN ABOUT SUMMONING DEMONS WITH THE #CHARLIECHARLIECHALLENGE

FRESNO, Calif. -- What appears to be a spooky game being shared all over social media by teens and pre-teens is prompting warnings by religious leaders around the world.

Kids are sharing videos with #CharlieCharlie, challenging each other to summon an evil spirit from Mexico. Now after millions of shares the Catholic Church is responding and a local pastor even brought it up in Sunday service.

The screams and shrieks are thrilling, of course but what's causing them is alarming many adults. Countless videos are being tweeted, vined and instagramed showing mostly kids taking the Charlie Charlie Challenge.

10-year-old Mariana Cruz is a Fresno 5th grader and Charlie is being talked about at her school. "You have to try to balance the pencils and you ask Charlie questions," Cruz said.

In the videos posted online it appears Charlie answers yes or no questions. Mariana says she's never taken the challenge because she knows it involves an evil spirit.

"I've seen it on Facebook," said Mariana's mother, Monica Cruz. "And yes, I think it's a very bad thing. I would never try it and I should hope that my kids would never try it."

Tim Rolen, Senior Pastor at New Hope Community Church in Clovis has warned parents about the Charlie Challenge in Sunday services. "This could be an entry into something deeper," Rolen said. "Of course, as a pastor, if you believe in god there is also this awareness out of the scripture that there are demons in this world."

He had not heard about Charlie Charlie until parents began asking. And when he searched for specifics online, seeing that kids are inviting in a demon from Mexico, he had to speak up.

"You're asking children to pray to a demon, for a demon to give you directions," he said. "That could be pretty damaging and pretty powerful in certain situations."

Because of that Cruz says she's going to have a word with her daughter. "It's the first I've heard that she's heard about it," Cruz said. "But we'll talk more about it, now that I know she knows about it."

The Diocese of Fresno issued the following statement to Action News regarding the Charlie Challenge:

"The concerns regarding the social media game "Charlie Charlie" have been brought to the attention of some pastors and lay leaders in the Diocese of Fresno. Designated Pastoral Center staff are currently in dialogue to discern an appropriate response and resources to help guide parents, youth, and all individuals who have already engaged in this activity or are tempted to do so. The Diocese of Fresno echoes the concerns expressed in the Catholic News Service article dated May 27, 2015 regarding this issue."

[hedge]

"Kids are sharing videos with #CharlieCharlie, challenging each other to summon an evil spirit from Mexico."

IIIEEEEE!! Chupacabra! Flee! FLEE!!

[Professor Tiger]

So Christians (apparently not including JD) who object to their kids summoning demons - they are weird.

Meanwhile, Bruce Jenner is a hero who should be celebrated as a national role model for his bravery.

Ain't America great?

[Johnette's Daddy]

So Christians (apparently not including JD) who object to their kids summoning demons - they are weird.

Meanwhile, Bruce Jenner is a hero who should be celebrated as a national role model for his bravery.

Ain't America great?

Dude, I'm black. No WAY do we support consorting with demons - that is strictly white people stuff (vampire novels/goth/glorification of Halloween, etc).

[Cletus]

So Christians (apparently not including JD) who object to their kids summoning demons - they are weird.

Meanwhile, Bruce Jenner is a hero who should be celebrated as a national role model for his bravery.

Ain't America great?

The difference is that demons aren't real and the stuff those kids are doing is completely harmless. People who think otherwise are weird and stupid. However, sexual identity issues are real and have a serious impact on lives. Having a person like Bruce Jenner deal with this in a very public way may help those who don't have a public platform and are struggling with it and struggling to get accepted by those in their lives. This is a good thing.

[Jungle Rat]

Wait. Jonkey is black?

[Professor Tiger]

Cletus, are truly a modern man.

JD, would you consider black conservatives to be consorting with demons?

[sardis]

I'm guessing Bruce Jenner has the xy chromosome so no matter how many hormones he takes or how many body parts he replaces he will always be a man.

[Professor Tiger]

I think he found a new way to turn his failed career since the Olympics into a pop culture legend with a huge pay raise.

[Jungle Rat]

You so know you're thinking about doing it too.

[aTm]

I'm guessing Bruce Jenner has the xy chromosome so no matter how many hormones he takes or how many body parts he replaces he will always be a man.

XY vs XX actually does not always match physical sex in humans.

[Jungle Rat]

Captain BuzzKill!!

[AlabamAlum]

aTm is correct.

The larger point is, of course, why wouldn't we call someone by the pronoun of their choosing? How is it our business? Unless you've personally suckled or gently cradled Jenner's genitals, how can you be sure what's under the hood?

[sardis]

I'm guessing Bruce Jenner has the xy chromosome so no matter how many hormones he takes or how many body parts he replaces he will always be a man.

XY vs XX actually does not always match physical sex in humans.

It does 19,999 out of 20,000.

[hedge]

So Christians (apparently not including JD) who object to their kids summoning demons - they are weird.

Meanwhile, Bruce Jenner is a hero who should be celebrated as a national role model for his bravery.

Ain't America great?

Certainly heading in the right direction...

[BigRedMan]

So Christians (apparently not including JD) who object to their kids summoning demons - they are weird.

Meanwhile, Bruce Jenner is a hero who should be celebrated as a national role model for his bravery.

Ain't America great?

Dude, I'm black. No WAY do we support consorting with demons - that is strictly white people stuff (vampire novels/goth/glorification of Halloween, etc).

This is fair. I mean, in all the horror movies, black people are the first to get killed.