Ostensibly Hoops

hedge · Post by **hedge** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:47 pm

Basically if you don't count each of our two championship tourny runs, Roy has won 18 tourny games since 2005 to K's 10. And losing in the first round 3 times? That's fucking awful. Granted, Carolina has lost in the second round a few times (and were relegated to the NIT one year), but that's not the same as losing in the first freaking round of the tourny THREE times. Bottom line is, winning a championship erases a lot of bad memories. Here's hoping Roy and the Heels do some erasing next year...

Jungle Rat · Post by **Jungle Rat** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:18 pm

He's a legend there. He's not selling his home. He'll retire back there. I don't blame him. Relax for 6 years if lucky and then retire.

Jungle Rat · Post by **Jungle Rat** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:20 pm

Hedge. Rings are what matters. Not could have beens. Shut the fuck up and take a seat. Bitch.

hedge · Post by **hedge** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:22 pm

I've had it with your negativity, Rat. Cease!

Jungle Rat · Post by **Jungle Rat** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:25 pm

I haven't come yet. Shut it

Saint · Post by **Saint** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:38 pm

When Harrison Barnes picked UNC over Duke right after Carolina's 2nd title in 5 years, it looked like the beginning of the end for K and Duke and an extended period of dominance for UNC. UK was dealing with Billy Clyde and Roy had another top recruiting class coming in. Since then, it has all gone downhill for UNC while Duke has 2 titles and UK has 1 and looks to be part of the Final Four every year as long as Cal is there.

Now Duke has won its 2nd title in 5 years, landed a top recruit over UNC and has reasserted itself as the marquee program in college hoops. Here's to hoping they'll be eating shit for the next 5 years now.

But I agree that Roy is still stuck in the Dean mode of developing freshmen. I guarantee you that Berry and Pinson and Jackson would have gotten a lot more minutes playing at UK last year than he gave them. Jackson might be really good but he wasn't given a chance to flourish until late in the season

Jungle Rat · Post by **Jungle Rat** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:45 pm

It's simple. Roy needs to go.

hedge · Post by **hedge** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:47 pm

"Jackson might be really good but he wasn't given a chance to flourish until late in the season"

When are you going to flourish?

eCat · Post by **eCat** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:54 pm

Calipari has created the monster he can't feed fast enough

http://kentuckysportsradio.com/basketba ... lle-radio/

eCat · Post by **eCat** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:01 pm

Saint wrote:When Harrison Barnes picked UNC over Duke right after Carolina's 2nd title in 5 years, it looked like the beginning of the end for K and Duke and an extended period of dominance for UNC. UK was dealing with Billy Clyde and Roy had another top recruiting class coming in. Since then, it has all gone downhill for UNC while Duke has 2 titles and UK has 1 and looks to be part of the Final Four every year as long as Cal is there.

Now Duke has won its 2nd title in 5 years, landed a top recruit over UNC and has reasserted itself as the marquee program in college hoops. Here's to hoping they'll be eating shit for the next 5 years now.

But I agree that Roy is still stuck in the Dean mode of developing freshmen. I guarantee you that Berry and Pinson and Jackson would have gotten a lot more minutes playing at UK last year than he gave them. Jackson might be really good but he wasn't given a chance to flourish until late in the season

I remember making that Hilter video saying "UNC returns all players from a final four team" - damn...those were the days for you guys.

crotch · Post by **crotch** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:55 pm

Derek Anderson Blasts Calipari... and I agree 100%.

eCat · Post by **eCat** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:46 pm

you're longing for those Tubby Smith years I bet

on a side note, we didn't even get the 3* kid - he committed to NC St.

crotch · Post by **crotch** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:09 am

Tubby is a great guy but an average coach. Never have been a huge fan of Calipari. Looking forward for the Bruce Pearl era at Kentucky

hedge · Post by **hedge** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:01 am

Sounds like Derek Anderson is a big Roy Williams fan...

hedge · Post by **hedge** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:15 am

"I remember making that Hilter video saying "UNC returns all players from a final four team" - damn...those were the days for you guys."

I kinda feel like that's what we have coming back next year. Granted, it wasn't a FF team, but it was a team that took one of the eventual finalists (a team that knocked off mighty Kentucky) down to the wire and honestly a team that I thought was going to win that game. No doubt this year's team was not the same caliber as the 2008 team (3 solid NBA players and one legitimate NBA star), but I think the talent and experience level of what we'll have next year is going to be more than any other team. We'll see how good the incoming freshman class will be for some other teams, but so far I don't see an Okafor or Towns or Wiggans or any of the other superstars out there coming in this year. And Roy has always done his best with experienced guys who know the system. We'll see, but to me this is certainly going to be a FF or bust kind of season for us...

eCat · Post by **eCat** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:28 am

I'm under the impression there are going to be many good teams next year

Jungle Rat · Post by **Jungle Rat** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:57 am

Hope you live long enough to see it. Go with the pepper stuff.

eCat · Post by **eCat** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:02 pm

harsh but fair

Jungle Rat · Post by **Jungle Rat** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:34 pm

Indeed

hedge · Post by **hedge** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:47 pm

eCat wrote:I'm under the impression there are going to be many good teams next year

There may be, but I doubt anybody is going to have the caliber of quality, depth and experience we will. Of course, that doesn't automatically translate into anything unless we produce on the court, but it makes for a pleasant off-season...

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