Florida State Seminoles

[eCat]

Think its a coincidence that we let thousands of kids into this country from 3rd world countries last summer and we have a measles out break now?

I read that Mexico has a higher immunization rate than the US. I don't know about China and India...but we don't really complain about those immigrants.

that may be true but those kids didn't come from Mexico, they came from Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador and Nicaragua

I'll complain about China and India if hundreds of cargo container boats full of 'em start parking on the beach in California.

[Bklyn]

I honestly don't know the answer to this, but how many Indians and Chinese immigrate to this country every year (legally, presumably) versus Mexico and Central America (legally as well as illegally)? Mexico is the dominant source of all illegals (over 50%), I do know that.

I'll see if I can find something that lays it out.

[aTm]

Vaccines aren't effective because they guarantee that you wont get it, generally. The effectiveness they confer is herd immunity, if everyone (100%) gets vaccinated so that 85% of the population is immune (ie it didn't work on 15%), then that's usually good enough to kill off the disease because it can no longer achieve its reproduction rate and infect enough other people. But if only 85% get the vaccine that might mean only 70% of the population is immune and that might be enough for the disease to stay active and it will also infect the 15% that the vaccine didn't work on.

[Jungle Rat]

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz............

[10ac]

Got a flue shot in November, Got the flu Monday.

[eCat]

Got a flue shot in November, Got the flu Monday.

I sitting here with my head running like a rain gutter and shivering when everyone else thinks the house it hot.

I'm afraid I might be down for a few days myself

[hedge]

I'm guessing aTm ran into a wall when he read this from that article about people who are against vaccination:

"I’m not entirely baffled by the fear of vaccines, which arises in part from a mistrust of drug companies and a medical establishment that have made past mistakes."

[bluetick]

My disposable anecdote: the only year in the past 25 or so that I failed to get a flu shot, I got my lone case of the flu (that eventually morphed into pneumonia...I shivered and shook like a shitting dog and knew I was gonna die). Last week of January 1998.

[hedge]

I have never gotten a flu shot and I can't remember the last time I had the flu. When I was a kid, maybe? Not saying I'm against them, just lazy.

[eCat]

dayquil is making me feel human today

[sardis]

"...and knew I was gonna die."

At least you are consistent with your wrongful prognostications. Ever consider finding employment at the NOAA Climate Prediction Center?

[bluetick]

I didn't put a timestamp on it, sardis...I WILL be right.

nobody gets out of this shark pit alive
nobody, nobody gets out alive

[hedge]

Fonzie did. Well, kinda...

[Bklyn]

This was published 32 years ago, but it is still true today. It's almost where you can read it and think they are talking today. That reality makes it almost heartening that this battle has been going on for over 35 years but we're not totally worthless for it.

http://www.texasmonthly.com/content/gua ... bereth-not

[Saint]

So walk me through this vaccination stuff. If you are vaccinated, you should have no worries, right? Because if that's so, I don't understand the hoopla about it and furthermore, it would be good to see a couple million dipshits bite the dust to clear out some space up in here.

[crashcourse]

if you havent had a vaccine in many years Ive heard getting a booster is recommended

[Bklyn]

So walk me through this vaccination stuff. If you are vaccinated, you should have no worries, right?

Nope. Vaccines are not foolproof, individually.

[Bklyn]

If you have a pickup and some time, hit up Radio Shack...

http://www.wired.com/2015/02/high-end-d ... tt-malone/

[Bklyn]

RE: Prayer Breakfast Bruhaha

The crowd here is relatively moderate (albeit I know a few peek in here with more rough-around-the-edges views but understand the audience here and moderate their speech accordingly) so I didn't expect much talk, if any, on the Obama comment. However, I'm posting this here anyway because Coates still adds context that I think is important...whether you understood/cared where BHO was coming from or not...

Now, Christianity did not "cause" slavery, anymore than Christianity "caused" the civil-rights movement. The interest in power is almost always accompanied by the need to sanctify that power. That is what the Muslims terrorists in ISIS are seeking to do today, and that is what Christian enslavers and Christian terrorists did for the lion's share of American history.

That this relatively mild, and correct, point cannot be made without the comments being dubbed, "the most offensive I’ve ever heard a president make in my lifetime,” by a former Virginia governor gives you some sense of the limited tolerance for any honest conversation around racism in our politics.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... ch/385246/

[hedge]

Limited tolerance for honest conversation? We're talking about christians here, lying is the cornerstone of their worldly mandate...