Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

[10ac]

http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... lie-hebdo/

[crashcourse]

'think that islam is just as silly as christianity'

blasphemy
hedge is now a target
infidel

look for another attack on bean plant

[bluetick]

"This is what we call smart power," Clinton said to a small audience at Georgetown. "Using every possible tool and partner to advance peace and security. Leaving no one on the sidelines. Showing respect even for one's enemies. Trying to understand, in so far as psychologically possible, empathize with their perspective and point of view. Helping to define the problems, determine the solutions. That is what we believe in the 21st century will change -- change the prospects for peace."

She wasn't referring to the tea party?

[bluetick]

"In this hour I would ask of the Lord God only this: that He would give His blessing to our work, and that He may ever give us the courage to do the right. I am convinced that men who are created by God should live in accordance with the will of the Almighty. No man can fashion world history unless upon his purpose and his powers there rests the blessings of this Providence."

- A. Hitler, German Chancellor, excerpt from Reichstag Speech 1937

German Protestants and Catholics murdered 6 million Jews over half a century ago. Hopefully no one holds that against little ol' Methodist me, seeing as how I hadn't entered the world yet.

If there are Jews who think all Protestants are accountable and wish each of us a grizzly death...well, they've managed to keep those thoughts to themselves. Good on them who aren't willing to paint all members of a race or religion with the same big-ass brush.

[Professor Tiger]

"In this hour I would ask of the Lord God only this: that He would give His blessing to our work, and that He may ever give us the courage to do the right. I am convinced that men who are created by God should live in accordance with the will of the Almighty. No man can fashion world history unless upon his purpose and his powers there rests the blessings of this Providence."

- A. Hitler, German Chancellor, excerpt from Reichstag Speech 1937

Hitler wasn't a Christian. He wasn't an atheist either.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_ ... olf_Hitler

[Toemeesleather]

"This is what we call smart power," Clinton said to a small audience at Georgetown. "Using every possible tool and partner to advance peace and security. Leaving no one on the sidelines. Showing respect even for one's enemies. Trying to understand, in so far as psychologically possible, empathize with their perspective and point of view. Helping to define the problems, determine the solutions. That is what we believe in the 21st century will change -- change the prospects for peace."

She wasn't referring to the tea party?

Since Dems/MSM see little difference between Islam and the Tea Party, for once in yer life, yer probably correct.

[Professor Tiger]

German Protestants and Catholics murdered 6 million Jews over half a century ago. Hopefully no one holds that against little ol' Methodist me, seeing as how I hadn't entered the world yet.

If there are Jews who think all Protestants are accountable and wish each of us a grizzly death...well, they've managed to keep those thoughts to themselves. Good on them who aren't willing to paint all members of a race or religion with the same big-ass brush.

Tick, is this your logic?

1. Hitler was a Christian.
2. Hitler and other European Christians committed the Holocaust.
3. Nobody blames Christians for the Holocaust, so nobody should connect the horrors Muslims regularly commit with Islam.

Is that what you are saying?

[bluetick]

German Protestants and Catholics murdered 6 million Jews over half a century ago. Hopefully no one holds that against little ol' Methodist me, seeing as how I hadn't entered the world yet.

If there are Jews who think all Protestants are accountable and wish each of us a grizzly death...well, they've managed to keep those thoughts to themselves. Good on them who aren't willing to paint all members of a race or religion with the same big-ass brush.

Tick, is this your logic?

1. Hitler was a Christian.
2. Hitler and other European Christians committed the Holocaust.
3. Nobody blames Christians for the Holocaust, so nobody should connect the horrors Muslims regularly commit with Islam.

Is that what you are saying?

1. Hitler was born a Catholic, and professed to be a Catholic as late as 1941.
2. The Holocaust is undeniable (for most).
3. Actually there are Christians who express some Holocaust-guilt. I don't for the life of me think they should.

Some of my clients are Muslim, and they are responsible people and good citizens. I bet you know some too. No way you'd lump them in with these islamofascist psychos, right?
Or am I wrong?

[hedge]

Pope Pius XII's ambassador at the annual birthday party thrown for Hitler by Germany's R.C. hierarchy :

Nuncio with Fuehrer

On April 20, 1939, (Archbishop) Orsenigo celebrated Hitler's birthday. The celebrations, initiated by Pope Pius XII, when he preceded Orsenigo as Papal Nuncio to Germany) became a tradition. Each year, in the name of the Catholic bishops and the dioceses in Germany, April 20, Cardinal Bertram of Breslau sent "warmest congratulations to the Führer, with "fervent prayers which the Catholics of Germany are sending to heaven on their altars."

[Professor Tiger]

Some of my clients are Muslim, and they are responsible people and good citizens. I bet you know some too. No way you'd lump them in with these islamofascist psychos, right?
Or am I wrong?

I know plenty of Muslims who are nice people, responsible and good citizens. Their behavior in no way resembles the behavior of the islamofascist psychos, as you put it. They are entirely innocent, and deserve full human respect and dignity and protection under the law.

I don't understand the need to concoct crazy arguments like "Hitler was a Catholic" to create moral equivalencies with Christianity (which was a lot like Islam during the Middle Ages, but grew out of it). Hitler and the Nazis did not send the Jews to the ovens while chanting, "Praise the Lord!"

[aTm]

How many toothbrush mustaches and potential toothbrush mustaches did Hitler murder? More than jews probably.

[hedge]

" (which was a lot like Islam during the Middle Ages, but grew out of it)"

Well perhaps we should just be patient with islamofascisists. I mean, hey, it's just a phase, they'll grow out of it!

[Professor Tiger]

Islam growing up is our best hope. It may take centuries.

[bluetick]

I don't understand the need to concoct crazy arguments like "Hitler was a Catholic" to create moral equivalencies with Christianity (which was a lot like Islam during the Middle Ages, but grew out of it). Hitler and the Nazis did not send the Jews to the ovens while chanting, "Praise the Lord!"

Heh. You're good. Pull the pin, toss in "Yet most liberals consider Christianity to be the religion of violence, intolerance, etc.", then act wounded over "crazy equivalencies."

Germany in the 1930s was 60% protestant and 35% catholic. 6 million Jews were exterminated at their hands. Except according to you it didn't happen, since post-Middle Age Christians grew out of that sort of barbarism. Or maybe it happened, but the Lord's name was kept out of it. Whatever.

[Dr. Strangelove]

The police officer that the terrorists executed in the street was himself a Muslim

http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/07/ahmed ... as-muslim/

[Toemeesleather]

Don't hold your breath waiting for this on the Today show....


SPOKANE, Wash. - A 17-year-old boy has pleaded guilty in the beating death of 88-year-old Delbert Belton, a World War II veteran who survived the battle of Okinawa but was killed in a robbery outside a Spokane bar in 2013.

Kenan Adams-Kinard pleaded guilty to first degree murder on Wednesday, in exchange for two lesser charges being dropped.

He faces a standard sentence to 20 to 27 years in prison when he is sentenced at a later date.

Adams-Kinard and Demetruis Glenn were both 16 when they were charged with severely beating Belton in his car on Aug. 21, 2013, during a robbery. The veteran died of his injuries the next day.

[sardis]

The atheist makes a good point.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... t_off.html

[10ac]

I know most Muslim people would not have carried out an attack like this. But here's the important point. Hundreds of millions of them support an attack like this. They applaud an attack like this.

[sardis]

BTW, I was remiss in forgetting to wish prof a Merry Christmas yesterday.

[hedge]

Happy Birthday to Elvis as well...