Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

[AlabamAlum]

Beer on the beach. Liquor on the balcony.

[hedge]

I can do a gin and tonic or margarita on the beach. Scotch, not so much...

[AlabamAlum]

So sorry. The correct answer is beer on the beach.

[aTm]

Just like those Corona commercials!

[AlabamAlum]

I'm not a Corona guy, but...yes.

[Professor Tiger]

Mmmmm... Beach..... Corona......

[AlabamAlum]

Corona is soulless. I'd rather have a PBR or even a Miller product.

[aTm]

The soul gets added through exposure to UV through the clear bottle, bro.

[AlabamAlum]

I'd rather have a Miller High Life (clear bottle there, too).

[hedge]

Beer is fine at the beach if you're guzzling it. Otherwise it gets warm (huggers don't work), and I don't find warm PBR very appealing. I like something with ice in it so I can sip a cold beverage. Luckily in Mexico, they make a beer mixture called mechilada that incorporates ice, so I have a choice b/w beer and mixed drink...

[AlabamAlum]

4 minutes per beer is the standard for men. The beer is cold enough in that timeframe.

[sardis]

Oh no....President Biden.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/1 ... 90584.html

[crashcourse]

PBR sounds good right now

[Professor Tiger]

"You're doing a heckuva job, Frieden!"

[Toemeesleather]

Six months after VP Joe Biden's son is kicked out of the Navy for positive drug test, it's quietly leaked into the news when there's plenty of chaos to drown it out......can you imagine the hoopla if this would have been a Cheney?

[Toemeesleather]

"You're doing a heckuva job, Frieden!"

Yep, just don't wait on any stories of how Obola's approval rating is affected....matter of fact, I believe it's a fireable offense to mention Obola's approval rating in the MSM.

[Toemeesleather]

This is the second day of the Cheney scandal, FRONT page/above the fold, of the NYT. The story continued on the front page for the entire week.


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/14/polit ... heney.html?


WASHINGTON, Feb. 13 — The White House sought with little success on Monday to quell an uproar over why it took the better part of a day to disclose that Vice President Dick Cheney had accidentally wounded a fellow hunter in Texas on Saturday and why even President Bush initially got an incomplete report on the shooting.


uproar....better part of a day.....oh my!

Six months for Uncle Joe, no problemo!!11

[Johnette's Daddy]

Republicans Pave Way to All-White Future

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2 ... cmpid=yhoo

Even Senator John McCain has surrendered. A steadfast supporter of immigration reform with a pathway to citizenship, McCain essentially acknowledged yesterday in Georgia that his party's anti-immigration forces have demolished any hope of soon legalizing the roughly 11 million undocumented immigrants in the U.S.

McCain's assessment is as unimpeachable as it is irrational. In an interview with the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, he said that, "I understand now, especially in my home state of Arizona, that these children coming, and now with the threat of ISIS … that we have to have a secure border."

Follow that? Immigration reform, including the legalization of millions of immigrants already living in the U.S., is on hold because tens of thousands of Central American children have surrendered to border authorities. Also, because a sadistic army is killing people in Syria and Iraq. McCain, often a summer soldier when the forces of demagogy call, was perhaps too embarrassed to link Ebola to the new orthodoxy; of course, others already have.

It's hard to see how Republicans walk this back before 2017 -- at the earliest. What began with the national party calling for immigration reform as a predicate to future Republican relevancy has ended with complete capitulation to the party's anti-immigration base. Conservatives are busy running ads and shopping soundbites depicting immigrants as vectors of disease, criminality and terrorism, a 30-second star turn that Hispanic and Asian voters, in particular, may not entirely relish.

"The day after the 2014 election," e-mailed immigration advocate Frank Sharry, Republicans will "face a future defined by an anti-Latino and anti-immigrant brand and the rapid and relentless growth of Latino, Asian-American and immigrant voters."

Sharry is bitter about the Republican rejection of comprehensive immigration reform. And public opinion has turned against immigration in the wake of the border influx of Central Americans earlier this year. But is Sharry's analysis skewed? There has never been a convincing "day after tomorrow" plan for Republicans if they abandon reform and embrace their most anti-immigrant wing.

Yet it looks as if Republicans have done just that. "Secure the border" is an empty slogan and practical nightmare. But if you're a conservative politician desperate to assuage (or exploit) what writer Steve Chapman calls the "deep anxieties" stirred by "brown migrants sneaking over from Mexico," it's an empty slogan with legs. It will be vastly easier for Republicans running in 2016 to shout "secure the border" than to defy the always anxious, politically-empowered Republican base. Perhaps Republicans in Congress will muster some form of Dream Act for immigrant youth or a visa sop to the tech industry, but they seem incapable of more.

In that case, the path of least resistance -- and it has been many years since national Republicans have taken a different route -- will be to continue reassuring the base while alienating brown voters. (After six years in which Republicans' highest priority has been destruction of the nation's first black president, it's doubtful black voters will be persuadable anytime soon.) The party's whole diversity gambit goes out the window. The White Album plays in perpetuity on Republican turntables.

That would be a significant problem if it resulted only in the marginalization and regionalization of the nation's conservative party. But a racial hunkering down in an increasingly multi-racial nation will not be a passive or benign act. Pressed to the demographic wall, Republicans will be fighting to win every white vote, not always in the most high-minded manner. Democrats, likewise, will have a powerful incentive to question the motives and consequences of their opponents' racial solidarity.

Immigration has always been about more than race. November's election will go a long way toward making it about nothing else.

[Toemeesleather]

[Professor Tiger]

JD, are you saying that "controlling the border" is racist? If so, why are we the only country in the world that is not allowed to know who is going and coming across our borders?

I am entirely in favor of controlling our borders. But once that has been done, I would be in favor of granting a quick path towards citizenship for the illegals already here.