Florida State Seminoles

[innocentbystander]

aTm was slippery. He said/she said. The DA declined to prosecute, but make no mistake, your mom was bent over the kitchen table by aTm, a fistful of hair in one hand, as he used his feet to splay your mom's legs, and with a crooked grin he thrust his manhood deep into your mother's ass. After completion, he spat on her crumpled, naked frame, laughed, and said, "You know you loved it, you whore. Don't bother calling the police. I'm a very important man here and no one will believe you."

Yes very slipery. But make no mistake, if the DA didn't prosecute, aTm and I would be settling out of court with at least one of us going to the bone yard.

[AlabamAlum]

No, no, if you kill aTm, it means you are a pedophile. The only way you're not a pedo is if you take your mom's stained panties to the Bill Dance Boat Show at the Bass Pro Shop off of route 43 in Galveston.

Why? Because I said so.

[aTm]

I trust that the Harvey Updyke's among my fanbase will take care of that slut if they find out her name.

[innocentbystander]

So, your mom hires a lawyer. She's a whore and aTm is innocent. She displays her spunk-stained panties on Good Morning America, and she's a victim and aTm is a rapist?

Only if she knows that the local DA's office is corrupt or incompetent. You'll note the girl has not done that yet. I wonder why? Sure if she was truly raped, finding out that Winston would not be prosecuted would be the second worst day of her life.

You do see, how that is almost magical thinking, right? How it is illogical and immaterial to whether she was raped or not, correct? I actually think I've had it right all along. You're a parody account. No one is this stupid.

Its not magical thinking. It is ENTIRELY material as to knowing if you were truly raped or not. Rape is rape. It is entirely objective. It is very obvious what it is and what it isn't. And if she was raped (and the Tallahasee DA's office refused to do their job) there would be hell to pay. The victim would go to the media and the whole world would know how corrupt (by protecting the FSU football player) or incompetent they are.

The only one who is being stupid here right now is you. There has been hundreds of thousands of rape convictions and acquitals in this nation over the years. That is because the DA's office knew that the victim (who wanted to press charges) had a case. So they go to trial. This girl wanted to press charges but she had NO case. So that is that.

What we have here (instead) is a situation where there was consentual sex (possibly where one or both were drunk) and a DA's office that is smart enough to know that charging Winston would ruin his life (or at least a significant part of it) even if he was found NOT-guilty. They had the DNA evidence (which is more than Nifong ever had) and still, no charges. And why? Because the tax payers of the county would be out millions of dollars in trial against an innocent man, it would go nowhere. It is hard enough as it is to get a conviction even if he WAS guilty. They are certainly not going to prosecute when they know he isn't.

[innocentbystander]

No, no, if you kill aTm, it means you are a pedophile. The only way you're not a pedo is if you take your mom's stained panties to the Bill Dance Boat Show at the Bass Pro Shop off of route 43 in Galveston.

Why? Because I said so.

You got me there. I can't hold a candle to that.

[AlabamAlum]

Its not magical thinking. It is ENTIRELY material as to knowing if you were truly raped.

No no, you're missing the point. If a rape happened, how she reacted after the fact would not change the fact that there was a rape.

Let's go back to your mom: Get that image back in your head....

aTm has gotten away with it. The local DA is complicit in helping him avoid charges, so you, in a state of anguish, are sharpening your "Highlander" series genuine replica katana that you bought at at the 2002 Phoenix ComicCon in hopes of exacting your much-earned revenge. Satisfied that the highly polished, aluminum-cast weapon's keen blade is honed sufficiently, you strike out to remove aTm's bulbous head.

Along the way, you stop at your mother's house because you realize that you may spend the rest of your life in jail. You enter your mom's kitchen just as she hangs up the phone.

"Who was that?" you ask.

"Mr. Cohen, a nice lawyer from the firm of Goldstein and Cohen. I have retained them to make sure that evil aTm pays!" she beams.

"NO, MOM!!!!" you scream. "Don't you realize that this means you were no longer raped?"

"I wasn't raped? What, I was raped..."

"No, you slut, it is now consensual! As he thrust himself in, over and over again, you were asking for it. A begging, whimpering harlot, eagerly matching his rhythmic pelvic gyrations; greedily and hungrily helping his manhood sheath itself in your gooey and waiting colon. You are worse than the whore of Babylon5."

She hangs her head in shame for what seemed like an eternity.


Finally the awkward silence is mercifully shattered as the katana is dropped and clangs against the linoleum floor of your mom's kitchen. Your slightly worn Rockport walkers glide you across the room in style and comfort as you snatch the phone from your mother and quickly call aTm, who answers on the first ring.

"aTm, I was coming to your house to kill you for brutally raping my mother, but I now know that it was she who begged you to pump her colon full of your man seed. Her gaping and injured sphincter is now conclusive evidence of her painted-face whorishness. I apologize for accusing you..."

aTm' issues a deep, dark, guttural laugh that builds until it echoes throughout his lair. He hangs up and whispers, "Excellent. I will be raping e'rebody up in here."

[AlabamAlum]

[Jungle Rat]

Is that Pitino?

[hedge]

"Do not like your avatar, hedge. Change it back."

Back to what? This is the one I've had the whole time we've been here...

[hedge]

"Sidebar, I have sued twice and received full payment for every dime that I sued. I never had a lawyer. It never went to trial and I never negotiated with the people I was suing. I just filed the suit, they kept calling me, I kept hanging up, and the day before these suits were to be in court, I got a check for the full amount. That is because I had real damages and the people I was suing KNEW they were going to lose."

Damn, you sued your parents?

[hedge]

"But make no mistake, if the DA didn't prosecute, aTm and I would be settling out of court with at least one of us going to the bone yard."

That's funny, aTm was referring to your mother's asshole as "the bone yard"...

[AlabamAlum]

No, for a long time it has been Robert Blake with a camera. Now it's that Quote-Quote thingy.

[hedge]

"You got me there. I can't hold a candle to that."

aTm got your mom "there". He held his candle to "that". "There" and "that" being, since I have to spell it out for you, your mom's asshole...

[hedge]

"No, for a long time it has been Robert Blake with a camera. Now it's that Quote-Quote thingy."

When I click on my name, I see the same old avatar I've always had...

[hedge]

LOL at "whore of Babylon5"...

[BigRedMan]

Is that Pitino?

No way, that clip was to long.

[KeviNole]

I don't know, but IB's mom has a nice ass and legs.

I don't begrudge her for having a lawyer at all, especially since it is a family member. I do begrudge the fact that she's provided at least 4 different stories to authorities, 3 of which have been scientifically disproven (drunk out of her mind, hit over the head, given date rape drugs). She willingly went to the players' apartment (texting her friend in the cab to ask if she wanted to join), and rode home on the back of her rapist's scooter and asked him to take her to a building nearby and not her dorm ("walk of shame" you might say). She identified Winston as a classmate a few months later but did not wish to be moved out of the class and stayed in there for the duration of the semester. She posted on social media at the beginning of the next football season "our QB is better than yours!", along with other tweets, texts, and Facebook postings that simply do not support the traumatized victim state of mind.

FSU attempted to initiate a Title IX investigation for months, but she refused to cooperate. Then one day she demands that they initiate AND conclude the investigation within 5 days?

At the time of the "settlement offer", Winston had already been through three different investigations (TPD, SAO, and FSU code of conduct) and there was insufficient evidence to bring charges/convict/take action each time. Even if Winston had been found guilty in the Title IX investigation, he personally was not going to be as liable as the university. I don't buy that Cornwell (a MUCH more high profile, accomplished attorney than Auntie Pat) initiated such a conversation. I also tend to believe he wouldn't have initiated this latest PR campaign without sufficient proof, which is being provided to FSU as I understand it.

My personal belief is that she had regret for going home with Winston, and made a feeble claim of rape to her roommate when she asked what happened. The roommate took the bull by the horns, called the police and the girl's family, and the horses were out of the barn by then. That's just a belief and I hope nothing more sinister than that happened, but she has no one to blame for the botched investigation but herself. And that IS an absolute fact.

[AlabamAlum]

I have no idea if she was raped. I used to be a lot more convinced that she wasn't than I am now. With every idiotic thing Jameis does, the "well, he could have, I suppose" gets a louder voice in my mind.

As far as her story changing, I haven't seen any official story from her. It's always been second or third hand -or worse. Where can we see her directly quoted on what she says has happened and how it's changed over time, Kev?

[dave_rickart]

Narnia? Atlantis? Mount Olympus?

[AlabamAlum]

Someone will figure out how to stop them. It wont be this week. CSU is not stopping BC.

Cogent.